Quote from: Mistwell;753606I checked it's not G+ data it's just blog posts that also feed to G+.  I guess he would need to pay for an API to get G+ data.

I do not have a complete list, just what Morrus has said.  If you know of any particular board which has RSS feeds that you want to make sure he includes, let him know (he will answer questions about particular sources, I just don't think he has an easy way to post a list).  The thing serves no purpose unless it's as comprehensive as he can make it.  He made it to find out as much data as he can, in part for personal gain - he wants to produce the kinds of games people talk about, and it's against his best interest to exclude a board.

He's gotta be including Dragonsfoot, now. No way 2e makes 1.21%, otherwise. Unless it's just tracking all the 2e/5e comparison comments, I've seen.

Quote from: Brad;753505Obviously I'm being sarcastic. I'd say 90% of roleplayers only know D&D exists, and the general public has no clue anything other than D&D exists whatsoever.

I'd say slightly more than only D&D. I always see Pathfinder, Shadowrun, 40k, and World of Darkness stuff at my local Barnes and Noble. But still only tier 1 stuff and maybe the very upper echelon of tier 2.

And this is what should have been printed in a box set... not some piece of shit crippleware ad copy... fucking morons...

I've got mixed feelings.  I hate crippleware rpgs and yes that means I think weapon, vehicle, and spaceship design should always be right in the core of an sfrpg.

So, here's the thing, the starter's no more than an ad you pay for and that's dumb.  A 32 page D&D lite like GURPS lite as a free handout would be better.  But a full on complete in one book Basic D&D hardback?  It's about time.  That's what it is.  So, as long as they follow through on that I'll let the starter slide.

.pdf?  Yeah so that's like a full printer cartridge right there man.  Or you need a tablet which while common is hardly ubiquitous and pretty pricey as well.

Quote from: David Johansen;753646A 32 page D&D lite like GURPS lite as a free handout would be better.  But a full on complete in one book Basic D&D hardback?  It's about time.

Considering that they didn't plan to put it to print at all, and that they are only now "considering it" (after the obligatory WotC marketing induced forum reactions) I have the gut feeling that this product will not get the hardback treatment (if only to avoid confusion regarding the trinity of PHB, DMG, MM).
A regular softcover? Or an Essential-style digest softcover?

Quote from: David Johansen;753646I've got mixed feelings.  I hate crippleware rpgs and yes that means I think weapon, vehicle, and spaceship design should always be right in the core of an sfrpg.

So, here's the thing, the starter's no more than an ad you pay for and that's dumb.  A 32 page D&D lite like GURPS lite as a free handout would be better.  But a full on complete in one book Basic D&D hardback?  It's about time.  That's what it is.  So, as long as they follow through on that I'll let the starter slide.

.pdf?  Yeah so that's like a full printer cartridge right there man.  Or you need a tablet which while common is hardly ubiquitous and pretty pricey as well.

You don't need a tablet a phone can do it and a phone is as close to ubiquitous as you can get.

If your complaint is "I want a paper copy cos I like books" then find but you have to grasp this is personal preference not very common with anyone under 30....

I find it all odd as I never reference a rule book in play.
If I get 5e I will read the rules and then I won't refer to them again in play. Players may need to look up spells or check special abilites but I usually advise them to print them on their character sheets. The rest of the rules will be in my head I mean they are hardly complicated.

FYI - if you set your inkjet to "draft' rather than fine print its absolutley fine for text and you will get 4 -5 times as many copies out of it.

Quote from: Mistwell;753599As a matter of fact, it does from some of those.  ANY RPG board with RSS feed accessibility. And an earlier thread didn't reveal anything about old school boards not being tracked - ANY board he can grab with RSS feeds that has to do with RPGs, he will grab it.  He'd like to include this board, but Pundit only has RSS for his blog, not the board itself.  So, at least Pundit's blog is included.  But he can only measure data that's accessible.

That is false.

http://www.therpgsite.com/external.php/type=RSS2

In addition, there are RSS feeds for the individual forums, and special feeds for the News and Reviews forums as well, linked right from the forum index.

This is all standard features for vBulletin forums.

Quote from: David Johansen;753646So, here's the thing, the starter's no more than an ad you pay for and that's dumb.

Even if this was a fair statement - and it isn't remotely fair to claim that there is nothing useful in a starter as if no one could run a game with it - even if, it's still an 'ad' that someone else can pay for, e.g. a gift.

That alone justifies having it.

And I would argue it makes a much better gift for an RPG noob that the PHB would.  If you drop a 300 page text on someone who doesn't understand the value it's just going to gather dust.

Any industry benefits from 'on ramps'.

Quote from: Rincewind1;753585Speaking of influences, Pundit, I do have one question - did you perhaps try to persuade the WotC to get all that Basic/PDF D&D parts into an app in style of DCC, seeing how much you liked the latter?

I'll admit that it didn't really occur to me.

Quote from: David Johansen;753646So, here's the thing, the starter's no more than an ad you pay for and that's dumb.

No, the starter is an adventure (or collection of adventures?) that can be run out of the box, targeted at new DMs.

Quote from: RPGPundit;753000So the other shoe has finally fucking dropped.  Here's Mike Mearls announcing what I've known for months and had to keep a lid on; what I had tried to hint at and a few of you got, but most did not.  Yes, there will be a Basic D&D.


But its more than just that. It will be on a PDF.  It will be FREE.  And most importantly, it will be the true Core D&D.   Not the PHB, not the DMG, not that 10000-feats version. No. The basic version will be the default version of the D&D game, the one that all adventure products will use for their baseline.

This is hugely significant. This is the victory of Old-school thinking over all else, and I don't mind if I take more than a little credit for the lobbying I have done to create and hold this vision as a Consultant.

You're all welcome.

It is also an incredibly bold move for Wizards to make.  It means that in theory, all you'll ever need to play D&D will be, in the first few months, the Starter Set and the Basic Rules PDF.  And after that, not even the Starter Set.  So whatever you get, whatever you purchase or get into from Wizards will not be because they're holding a gun to your head. It will be because they'll be making great products (well, we hope!).

This is, with any luck, the beginning of the end for the whole "endless Splatbook-production-line model" of RPG thinking which only served to create an ever-shrinking mass of aging fanatics while alienating everyone else who didn't want to have to buy every single book.

Making Basic D&D the core D&D rules means that kids will be able to get into the game first, and then become customers of those adventures, expansions, settings or materials that they find exciting.  It will serve the "amateur" gamer rather than the hardcore drooling fan, and that's a good thing.

So its time now to give Wizards its due.  And to give the Pundit his due, particularly all the naysayers and those who made certain claims about me in the last few days.  I win again.

And this time, so does every other D&D fan.

RPGPundit

Well done, and thank you.

Quote from: Marleycat;753063The errata thing was the major reason I quit 4e I just couldn't keep up with what people were saying were even issues if anything.

I have seen a few 4E players debate (Not argue, it was a calm debate) many, many points of errata, usually in regards to perfecting a build.

Yuck.

So I can relate to not wanting to deal with errata.

All-though, I think the errata itself is not my problem; it's the build debates.

Quote from: Bill;753839I have seen a few 4E players debate (Not argue, it was a calm debate) many, many points of errata, usually in regards to perfecting a build.

Yuck.

So I can relate to not wanting to deal with errata.

All-though, I think the errata itself is not my problem; it's the build debates.

Ugn, DPR I mean doesn't anybody know there is more to the game then blowshitupis? I like blowing shit up mind you but there are other ways sometimes.

Quote from: J Arcane;753715That is false.

http://www.therpgsite.com/external.php/type=RSS2

In addition, there are RSS feeds for the individual forums, and special feeds for the News and Reviews forums as well, linked right from the forum index.

This is all standard features for vBulletin forums.

Let's be clear - I ASKED Pundit and the admins here if there was an RSS feed and was told no, there is only one for the blog.  If there is one, then I was misinformed, and I am happy to have Morrus add it to his list.  Are you SURE it's what you think it is?

Quote from: Mistwell;753856Let's be clear - I ASKED Pundit and the admins here if there was an RSS feed and was told no, there is only one for the blog.  If there is one, then I was misinformed, and I am happy to have Morrus add it to his list.  Are you SURE it's what you think it is?

Dude, click the fucking link.