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D&D art, what does it mean to you?

Started by Sacrosanct, August 06, 2014, 05:47:45 PM

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Nexus

#90
August 17, 2014, 12:29:24 PM
Quote from: Omega;780478Have you ever walked through the wilderness in a bikini? Youd buy some long boots too ASAP! Though I'd get thicker heels for stomping on the rat swarms...

Technically, we don't know that's what the character wears when "adventuring". She performing some kind of magical rite. For all we know we know she's going on a date afterward not a fighting monsters. Context matters :D
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jeff37923

#91
August 17, 2014, 02:14:26 PM
Quote from: GameDaddy;780468One of the first reasons I was positively inclined towards Rolemaster and Iron Crown Enterprises was the splendid artwork for the Middle Earth Roleplaying. Same deal with Runequest. The art was much better.

ICE had Angus McBride in their arsenal and wasn't afraid to use him. That guy's artwork was genius.
"Meh."

jeff37923

#92
August 17, 2014, 02:15:39 PM
Quote from: Nexus;780490Technically, we don't know that's what the character wears when "adventuring". She performing some kind of magical rite. For all we know we know she's going on a date afterward not a fighting monsters. Context matters :D

How do we know she wasn't conjuring up her date?
"Meh."

Nexus

#93
August 17, 2014, 02:18:52 PM
Quote from: jeff37923;780524How do we know she wasn't conjuring up her date?

True. It's not a man so that's okay.
Remember when Illinois Nazis where a joke in the Blue Brothers movie?

Democracy, meh? (538)

 "The salient fact of American politics is that there are fifty to seventy million voters each of whom will volunteer to live, with his family, in a cardboard box under an overpass, and cook sparrows on an old curtain rod, if someone would only guarantee that the black, gay, Hispanic, liberal, whatever, in the next box over doesn't even have a curtain rod, or a sparrow to put on it."

Omega

#94
August 17, 2014, 02:19:34 PM
Quote from: Nexus;780490Technically, we don't know that's what the character wears when "adventuring". She performing some kind of magical rite. For all we know we know she's going on a date afterward not a fighting monsters. Context matters :D

You are correct. It could lead into that Orcus pic.
"er... wait. This isn't the sort of hot date I expected..."

Shipyard Locked

#95
August 17, 2014, 03:26:59 PM
Quote from: Omega;780526You are correct. It could lead into that Orcus pic.
"er... wait. This isn't the sort of hot date I expected..."

"But our dating profiles match so perfectly, right down to our love of Tom Otterness sculpture parks and mangosteen juice!"

Haffrung

#96
August 17, 2014, 04:43:54 PM
Quote from: jeff37923;780523ICE had Angus McBride in their arsenal and wasn't afraid to use him. That guy's artwork was genius.

He was a genius. Was TSR just cheap?
 

TheShadow

#97
August 17, 2014, 05:01:23 PM
Quote from: CRKrueger;780401I just hope she's on my side, because she's about to put those heels up someone's ass.

Actually, she's not. At least, only in your private fantasy.
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#98
August 17, 2014, 07:23:44 PM
Quote from: Haffrung;780555He was a genius. Was TSR just cheap?

I don't know what the story was behind that. Interesting to find out, though.
"Meh."

Omega

#99
August 17, 2014, 09:11:58 PM
Quote from: Haffrung;780555He was a genius. Was TSR just cheap?

TSR had alot of top line artists working for them.

But several companies tried to maintain an in house stable of artists who worked for them and only them. A few like Games Workshop had, and I believe still have some pretty draconian lockdowns on artists. Apparently White Wolf was too in some odd way?

The 90s seemed to be the breakaway era when artists freelanced between companies alot more.

Sacrosanct

#100
August 17, 2014, 09:19:20 PM
Quote from: Haffrung;780555He was a genius. Was TSR just cheap?

I don't know if I would call TSR cheap.  Most of the art that people point to as being bad was all pre 1980 stuff, before the money really started rolling in (before the revenue from AD&D started really making an impact.)  So I imagine they were on quite the budget for that early stuff.
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#101
August 17, 2014, 09:26:38 PM
Quote from: Sacrosanct;780603I don't know if I would call TSR cheap.  Most of the art that people point to as being bad was all pre 1980 stuff, before the money really started rolling in (before the revenue from AD&D started really making an impact.)  So I imagine they were on quite the budget for that early stuff.
As far as the original game, good art was not a feature of wargame rules in the 1970s.
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#102
August 17, 2014, 10:45:01 PM
Quote from: Sacrosanct;780603I don't know if I would call TSR cheap.  Most of the art that people point to as being bad was all pre 1980 stuff, before the money really started rolling in (before the revenue from AD&D started really making an impact.)  So I imagine they were on quite the budget for that early stuff.

   And before the James Dallas Egbert case made the game a media sensation and fad, too.

   Meanwhile, Angus McBride's Characters of Middle Earth remains a treasured possession from my MERP/RM2 days. :D

jibbajibba

#103
August 18, 2014, 12:10:41 AM
Quote from: Sacrosanct;780603I don't know if I would call TSR cheap.  Most of the art that people point to as being bad was all pre 1980 stuff, before the money really started rolling in (before the revenue from AD&D started really making an impact.)  So I imagine they were on quite the budget for that early stuff.

...but they did have good artists, Jeff Dee was working for them when he was 18 in the 70s and they had Otus et al. I am sure that they could have tapped up a few other art school kids that Dee knew as well who would work for very little.

As I said up post Deity and Demigods has really solid artwork all the way through it and that was put together in what '80?
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#104
August 18, 2014, 12:25:36 AM
Quote from: jibbajibba;780632...but they did have good artists, Jeff Dee was working for them when he was 18 in the 70s and they had Otus et al. I am sure that they could have tapped up a few other art school kids that Dee knew as well who would work for very little.

As I said up post Deity and Demigods has really solid artwork all the way through it and that was put together in what '80?

"D .80" seems to be the turning point.  Man that dude put out a lot of art that year.  But TSR was putting out a ton of stuff around that time.  I imagine the artists were tapped to the max so they had others do some work.  When people point out bad art, they're usually pointing to something Sutherland did, and I don't recall much of his work after the first 3 core books in the 70s.

And then they went crappy art again with Rules Cyclopedia.  Ugh, that stuff looks really amateurish.
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