Quote from: taustin;659381A better test would be to post something bashing 4e, then, (presumabl after you've been banned) have someone else post the exact same thing, word for word, except another edition.

There are already examples of this.  I'd go back and look at the infraction history records to show it, but really--it isn't worth the effort.

Quote from: Sacrosanct;659458There are already examples of this.  I'd go back and look at the infraction history records to show it, but really--it isn't worth the effort.

Plus, you'd be preaching to the choir.

Quote from: Sacrosanct;659458There are already examples of this.  I'd go back and look at the infraction history records to show it, but really--it isn't worth the effort.

I have an account at RPG.net, but it's almost entirely unused. I could maybe risk it

Quote from: Exploderwizard;659148Charging money for print copy isn't a bad thing, they have to in order to avoid losing money.

The question is- will it be available in electronic format free of charge?

If not then it isn't at all like Paizo.

You mean all that material Wizards has already been offering for free for a really long time now?

Quote from: taustin;659381A better test would be to post something bashing 4e, then, (presumabl after you've been banned) have someone else post the exact same thing, word for word, except another edition.

Really, what would be the point? We all know exactly how this would go down.

Quote from: Sacrosanct;659372Oh, nevermind.  As long as Kai is a mod, the rules don't apply to Next or the players of Next.

When I started getting interested in Next a couple months ago, I logged back onto RPGnet for the first time in over a year just to see what the buzz was around Next. I immediately realized two things:

• The moderation has actually gotten worse on that site - within a few days I had two warnings, and then earned a one-week ban for suggesting that it's okay if the deities in a historical minded RPG map to their historical genders (misogynist!).


• They are more sensitive than ever to any claims about the various editions of D&D that could possibly be used as justification for edition warring. Except Next, which everyone is allowed - and indeed are encouraged - to fling shit at like a bunch of rabid baboons.

One of the best reasons to support Next going forward is any game that pisses off that crowd of douchebags so much must be doing something right.

I keep hoping that, one day, RPGnet will die the death, and be no more.

Quote from: 1989;661037I keep hoping that, one day, RPGnet will die the death, and be no more.

I don't hope they would die or anything like that.  I don't have that much of an emotional investment.

I do, however, wish people who really don't know any difference would no longer assume that RPG.net is the online representation of tabletop gamers.  Because they aren't.  RPG.net is now literally representative of the lowest common denominator.

It's like they followed the TSR model and put people in charge who don't care about RPGs (Lorraine Williams).

But but but 4e was the Eternal Edition .

Quote from: Haffrung;660987When I started getting interested in Next a couple months ago, I logged back onto RPGnet for the first time in over a year just to see what the buzz was around Next. I immediately realized two things:

• The moderation has actually gotten worse on that site - within a few days I had two warnings, and then earned a one-week ban for suggesting that it's okay if the deities in a historical minded RPG map to their historical genders (misogynist!).


• They are more sensitive than ever to any claims about the various editions of D&D that could possibly be used as justification for edition warring. Except Next, which everyone is allowed - and indeed are encouraged - to fling shit at like a bunch of rabid baboons.

One of the best reasons to support Next going forward is any game that pisses off that crowd of douchebags so much must be doing something right.

You are kidding me on that deities thing. You are bloody kidding me. Do you have by any chance links to that shit? Because I don't believe even they could become that low.

Then again, the only way not to get banned in RPG.net, according to one of the moderators, is not posting.

Quote from: Sacrosanct;661049It's like they followed the TSR model and put people in charge who don't care about RPGs (Lorraine Williams).

I see what you did there.

Let me put it this way - if RPG.net was a media site, it'd right now be called on relying on something called a "negative audience" - the audience disagrees with content of the news/site, and attempts to voice that disagreement...which allows owners of the site to still prove to Google they are good advertisement money.

Because you'd be actually surprised how many people, even at RPG.net, have had enough of SJW bullshit and enforced niceness that really means that there are select targets that you are free to bash, and bully is you if you are one of people who likes them.

Quote from: Rincewind1;661051You are kidding me on that deities thing. You are bloody kidding me. Do you have by any chance links to that shit? Because I don't believe even they could become that low.

Here's my post:

http://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?687779-Next-Archetypes-amp-Gender/page17&p=16744770#post16744770

And here's the infraction notice:

http://forum.rpg.net/private.php?do=showpm&pmid=1354847

The whole thread is absolutely fucking bizarre. I've never seen anything like it. I mean, there have to be lots of reasonable people who read it and were astonished at the idiocy expressed by the modclique and their cronies. So why aren't the loonies challenged? Why are people so cowed? Though it's worth noting three other posters were warned or banned in that thread alone for making statements what would pass unnoticed in any other forum I've come across on the internet.

Here's the Orwellian money-shot:

QuoteThe RPGnet forums are, at least aspirationally if not actually, a misogyny-free zone. Discussion of historical abuses of women and minorities is of course fine. So is discussion of fictional works portraying the bad old days. So even is discussion of gaming products that are for whatever reason problematic.

What is not acceptable is a defense of gender stereotyping fictional fantasy deities in service of historical accuracy.

What the fuck.

World is going to hell. Gone, actually.

Quote from: 1989;661189World is going to hell. Gone, actually.

No. It's just RPGnet. And the moderation of RPGnet is so buttfuck crazy as to not represent the actual aspirations of real people with real thoughts in the real world, not pandering to an imaginary audience of social warriors judging their every move so they'd better play the same game.

Next time you guys tell me I'm some sort of tyrant because I tell someone to talk about games instead of politics or whatever the fuck else, I want you to take a long hard look at this clusterfuck the totally reasonable Haffrung here got himself into.

There are still plenty of decent people out there, including you and I and Haffrung and Sacrosanct and loads of others, here and everywhere else. Even on RPGnet. The important thing is to not let ourselves get sucked into the bullshit myopia created by the computer box we're looking at right now.

Exactly.  For every shit at RPG.net, there are people like Contessa that just care about gaming with people as the most important thing.