More info apparently later this week when they're at the NY toy show.
I hope everyone is looking forward to more happy o-face cosplayers and a female barbarian moving into her adventuring college dorm room apparently. I can't help but notice that their big splash page is showing off exclusively female character art where recognizeable but I'm sure it's just purely by coincidence and not on purpose...
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Wait, the art is real?
I thought it was just a joke meme someone posted on twitter...
Glad to see the Keep on the Borderlands is getting a bit of love from WotC. Are they backing away from Forgotten Realms?
Quote from: Ruprecht on March 04, 2025, 07:33:23 PMGlad to see the Keep on the Borderlands is getting a bit of love from WotC. Are they backing away from Forgotten Realms?
Well we knew they were planning to rape Keep on the Borderlands eventually so this is zero surprise.
I note the telltales of AI art.
Quote from: Ruprecht on March 04, 2025, 07:33:23 PMGlad to see the Keep on the Borderlands is getting a bit of love from WotC.
Have you lost your fucking mind!?! Getting "a bit of love" from WotC generally involves a property getting bent over a chair and violated repeatedly. If you actually like
Keep on the Borderlands, you'd want it to be completely ignored by WotC, rather than having to console its sobbing wreck after WotC is done with it...
Quote from: Ruprecht on March 04, 2025, 07:33:23 PMGlad to see the Keep on the Borderlands is getting a bit of love from WotC. Are they backing away from Forgotten Realms?
I expect the Keep to be in the Realms, or at least have an option. The current approach appears to be: "We are the Realms. We will add your biological and mechanical distinctiveness to our own. Your setting will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile."
That art is something else.
Quote from: Armchair Gamer on March 04, 2025, 09:27:32 PMQuote from: Ruprecht on March 04, 2025, 07:33:23 PMGlad to see the Keep on the Borderlands is getting a bit of love from WotC. Are they backing away from Forgotten Realms?
I expect the Keep to be in the Realms, or at least have an option. The current approach appears to be: "We are the Realms. We will add your biological and mechanical distinctiveness to our own. Your setting will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile."
Haven't they moved Keep on the Borderlands to the realms before? I feel like I've heard that somewhere.
Horrible, horrible art. The cover is cartoony BS but at least is an action scene. But the rest? Atrocious, especially the very obviously trans Barbarian.
Saw it earlier on Twitter when Diversity & Dragons (IIRC) posted it. Utter dogshit art that looks like its made for halfwit Harry Potter-stans. Literally nothing in it evokes 'adventure'.
The maps look like they might be nice.
More information on the latest WotC clusterfuck.
Quote from: Armchair Gamer on March 04, 2025, 09:27:32 PMI expect the Keep to be in the Realms, or at least have an option. The current approach appears to be: "We are the Realms. We will add your biological and mechanical distinctiveness to our own. Your setting will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile."
They will probably set it in Greyhawk with a sidebar about using other settings. That's the current default DMG setting from what I have heard.
They have already done what amounts to a Realms version of this for 5e at least twice that I know of. Lost Mines of Phandelver and Dragon of Icespire Peak are both essentially this same thing. Here's a hub. Here's some adventures locations and hooks. Here's some stuff about the wilderness in between. Here's the main thing they need to do.
I would be fine with another Lost Mines as the new intro set. I think that style of adventure works really well as a introduction and as the starting point for a campaign.
Quote from: ForgottenF on March 04, 2025, 09:45:05 PMHaven't they moved Keep on the Borderlands to the realms before? I feel like I've heard that somewhere.
In Return they moved it to Greyhawk if recall right.
The monster hunter class sounded sorta neat (is it in this or a new book?) but there's already a lot of systems that do that. I've purchased so many starter sets of games that another for current D&D seems like overboard.
Curious to see how this is played out with the nomadic mexi-orcs as a player race, I can't see them being one of the denizens of the caves, unless they're the good guys being besieged by the other humanoi...er fey/fiend creatures while fighting the colonization efforts of the humans of the keep. The Mad Hermit? Isn't that mocking mental health and the unhoused?
I'm probably wrong about it. It'll be a faithful update to the classic module, right?
Then again, we already have Goodman Games Into the Borderlands but I guess that's outdated being 5e and all.
Quote from: Eirikrautha on March 04, 2025, 07:54:57 PMQuote from: Ruprecht on March 04, 2025, 07:33:23 PMGlad to see the Keep on the Borderlands is getting a bit of love from WotC.
Have you lost your fucking mind!?! Getting "a bit of love" from WotC generally involves a property getting bent over a chair and violated repeatedly. If you actually like Keep on the Borderlands, you'd want it to be completely ignored by WotC, rather than having to console its sobbing wreck after WotC is done with it...
Well, at least they still fear getting off into Dark Sun. There's too much there, that they hate.
Quote from: Jaeger on March 04, 2025, 07:04:03 PMWait, the art is real?
I thought it was just a joke meme someone posted on twitter...
Bad art, and bad ideas.
Quote from: Omega on March 05, 2025, 01:55:07 AMIn Return they moved it to Greyhawk if recall right.
Yea,
Return is another poke in Gygax's eye only to later be outdone by asshat Monte Cook with
Return to the Temple of Elemental Evil. Setting 'Kendall Keep' in the southwestern corner of The Yeomanry was absolutely bag of hammers retarded when Gygax said it should be near the border of The Principality of Ulek and The Pomarj. The Caves of Chaos make perfect sense as an area infested with humanoid descendants of the survivors of
The Hateful Wars.
Quote from: Tristan on March 05, 2025, 10:43:38 PMCurious to see how this is played out with the nomadic mexi-orcs as a player race, I can't see them being one of the denizens of the caves, unless they're the good guys being besieged by the other humanoi...er fey/fiend creatures while fighting the colonization efforts of the humans of the keep. The Mad Hermit? Isn't that mocking mental health and the unhoused?
While I haven't played the original, from your description it sounds like that might be the perfect place to jam in an illegal immigrant/colonialism allegory into the game for the folx at WOTC! Bonus points if the stunning and brave clan leader is rainbow, disabled, and birthing orc of color.
Quote from: Tristan on March 05, 2025, 10:43:38 PMCurious to see how this is played out with the nomadic mexi-orcs as a player race, I can't see them being one of the denizens of the caves, unless they're the good guys being besieged by the other humanoi...er fey/fiend creatures while fighting the colonization efforts of the humans of the keep. The Mad Hermit? Isn't that mocking mental health and the unhoused?
They probably flipped it and have the caves as the base of operations for those planning to raid into the Keep.
I just want to mention here, that Goodman Games published a 5E conversion for Keep on the Borderlands, here in the last few years. It also contained the original module content, so it was 100% ready to run in two different D&D rulesets.
I don't personally own the Keep on the Borderlands conversion, but I do own their conversion for the Temple of Elemental Evil; and it is an encyclopedic 2 volume set, that looks like it was published for the library of congress. To say it is thorough, would be an understatement.
So..... a quality 5E conversion for the Keep on the Borderlands, already exists.
Its Into the Borderlands, and it reprints & converts B1 & B2.
That art is a plate of barf cookies
There's a red dragon on the box, so it must be a good D&D adventure.........
A cheesy attempt at marketing.
Quote from: Man at Arms on March 07, 2025, 01:03:51 PMThere's a red dragon on the box, so it must be a good D&D adventure.........
It's an itty bitty dragon though so by that reasoning it's probably quite short as well... :)
Quote from: Nobleshield on March 04, 2025, 10:04:19 PMHorrible, horrible art. The cover is cartoony BS but at least is an action scene. But the rest? Atrocious, especially the very obviously trans Barbarian.
It's Ma'am!
Quote from: honeydipperdavid on March 08, 2025, 11:29:34 PMQuote from: Nobleshield on March 04, 2025, 10:04:19 PMHorrible, horrible art. The cover is cartoony BS but at least is an action scene. But the rest? Atrocious, especially the very obviously trans Barbarian.
It's Ma'am!
The rage is real.
In this version of Keep on the Borderlands, the party plays medieval social workers sent to the Caves of Chaos to apologize for all the wrongs done to the inhabitants. Side quests will involve:
- Creating a statue in the name of one of the orcs who was killed by insensitive adventurers
- Building a 'safe room' where inhabitants can go if they feel they have been triggered or misgendered
- Developing DEI programs to help eliminate microaggressions and teach about topics such as personal pronouns and the non-binary nature of gender
- Throwing a squalling fit when the party learns of the coronation of Ronaldus Magnus, new ruler over the Keep on the Borderlands
- Witnessing actual bands of real adventurers venturing into the Caves of Chaos to undo all the stupid crap the party has done in the 5.5 version of this adventure location.
Quote from: blackstone on March 09, 2025, 04:28:10 PMIn this version of Keep on the Borderlands, the party plays medieval social workers sent to the Caves of Chaos to apologize for all the wrongs done to the inhabitants. Side quests will involve:
- Creating a statue in the name of one of the orcs who was killed by insensitive adventurers
- Building a 'safe room' where inhabitants can go if they feel they have been triggered or misgendered
- Developing DEI programs to help eliminate microaggressions and teach about topics such as personal pronouns and the non-binary nature of gender
- Throwing a squalling fit when the party learns of the coronation of Ronaldus Magnus, new ruler over the Keep on the Borderlands
- Witnessing actual bands of real adventurers venturing into the Caves of Chaos to undo all the stupid crap the party has done in the 5.5 version of this adventure location.
You forgot the most important part, you bigot... adventurers paying reparations to the denizens of the borderlands to make up for decades of looting. DO BETTER! :)
Quote from: blackstone on March 09, 2025, 04:28:10 PMIn this version of Keep on the Borderlands, the party plays medieval social workers sent to the Caves of Chaos to apologize for all the wrongs done to the inhabitants. Side quests will involve:
- Creating a statue in the name of one of the orcs who was killed by insensitive adventurers
- Building a 'safe room' where inhabitants can go if they feel they have been triggered or misgendered
- Developing DEI programs to help eliminate microaggressions and teach about topics such as personal pronouns and the non-binary nature of gender
- Throwing a squalling fit when the party learns of the coronation of Ronaldus Magnus, new ruler over the Keep on the Borderlands
- Witnessing actual bands of real adventurers venturing into the Caves of Chaos to undo all the stupid crap the party has done in the 5.5 version of this adventure location.
Funny stuff. Good work.