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D&D 2025 Heroes of the Borderlands Starter Set preview...

Started by RNGm, March 04, 2025, 06:46:31 PM

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D-ko

The monster hunter class sounded sorta neat (is it in this or a new book?) but there's already a lot of systems that do that. I've purchased so many starter sets of games that another for current D&D seems like overboard.
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Tristan

Curious to see how this is played out with the nomadic mexi-orcs as a player race, I can't see them being one of the denizens of the caves, unless they're the good guys being besieged by the other humanoi...er fey/fiend creatures while fighting the colonization efforts of the humans of the keep.  The Mad Hermit? Isn't that mocking mental health and the unhoused?

I'm probably wrong about it. It'll be a faithful update to the classic module, right?

Then again, we already have Goodman Games Into the Borderlands but I guess that's outdated being 5e and all.
 

Man at Arms

Quote from: Eirikrautha on March 04, 2025, 07:54:57 PM
Quote from: Ruprecht on March 04, 2025, 07:33:23 PMGlad to see the Keep on the Borderlands is getting a bit of love from WotC.

Have you lost your fucking mind!?!  Getting "a bit of love" from WotC generally involves a property getting bent over a chair and violated repeatedly.  If you actually like Keep on the Borderlands, you'd want it to be completely ignored by WotC, rather than having to console its sobbing wreck after WotC is done with it...


Well, at least they still fear getting off into Dark Sun.  There's too much there, that they hate.

Man at Arms

Quote from: Jaeger on March 04, 2025, 07:04:03 PMWait, the art is real?

I thought it was just a joke meme someone posted on twitter...


Bad art, and bad ideas.

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Quote from: Omega on March 05, 2025, 01:55:07 AMIn Return they moved it to Greyhawk if recall right.

Yea, Return is another poke in Gygax's eye only to later be outdone by asshat Monte Cook with Return to the Temple of Elemental Evil. Setting 'Kendall Keep' in the southwestern corner of The Yeomanry was absolutely bag of hammers retarded when Gygax said it should be near the border of The Principality of Ulek and The Pomarj. The Caves of Chaos make perfect sense as an area infested with humanoid descendants of the survivors of The Hateful Wars.
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RNGm

Quote from: Tristan on March 05, 2025, 10:43:38 PMCurious to see how this is played out with the nomadic mexi-orcs as a player race, I can't see them being one of the denizens of the caves, unless they're the good guys being besieged by the other humanoi...er fey/fiend creatures while fighting the colonization efforts of the humans of the keep.  The Mad Hermit? Isn't that mocking mental health and the unhoused?

While I haven't played the original, from your description it sounds like that might be the perfect place to jam in an illegal immigrant/colonialism allegory into the game for the folx at WOTC!  Bonus points if the stunning and brave clan leader is rainbow, disabled, and birthing orc of color.

Ruprecht

Quote from: Tristan on March 05, 2025, 10:43:38 PMCurious to see how this is played out with the nomadic mexi-orcs as a player race, I can't see them being one of the denizens of the caves, unless they're the good guys being besieged by the other humanoi...er fey/fiend creatures while fighting the colonization efforts of the humans of the keep.  The Mad Hermit? Isn't that mocking mental health and the unhoused?
They probably flipped it and have the caves as the base of operations for those planning to raid into the Keep.
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Man at Arms

I just want to mention here, that Goodman Games published a 5E conversion for Keep on the Borderlands, here in the last few years.  It also contained the original module content, so it was 100% ready to run in two different D&D rulesets.

I don't personally own the Keep on the Borderlands conversion, but I do own their conversion for the Temple of Elemental Evil; and it is an encyclopedic 2 volume set, that looks like it was published for the library of congress.  To say it is thorough, would be an understatement.

So..... a quality 5E conversion for the Keep on the Borderlands, already exists.

Tristan

Its Into the Borderlands, and it reprints & converts B1 & B2.
 

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Man at Arms

There's a red dragon on the box, so it must be a good D&D adventure.........


A cheesy attempt at marketing.

RNGm

Quote from: Man at Arms on March 07, 2025, 01:03:51 PMThere's a red dragon on the box, so it must be a good D&D adventure.........

It's an itty bitty dragon though so by that reasoning it's probably quite short as well...  :)

honeydipperdavid

Quote from: Nobleshield on March 04, 2025, 10:04:19 PMHorrible, horrible art. The cover is cartoony BS but at least is an action scene. But the rest? Atrocious, especially the very obviously trans Barbarian.

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Zalman

Quote from: honeydipperdavid on March 08, 2025, 11:29:34 PM
Quote from: Nobleshield on March 04, 2025, 10:04:19 PMHorrible, horrible art. The cover is cartoony BS but at least is an action scene. But the rest? Atrocious, especially the very obviously trans Barbarian.

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blackstone

In this version of Keep on the Borderlands, the party plays medieval social workers sent to the Caves of Chaos to apologize for all the wrongs done to the inhabitants. Side quests will involve:
- Creating a statue in the name of one of the orcs who was killed by insensitive adventurers
- Building a 'safe room' where inhabitants can go if they feel they have been triggered or misgendered
- Developing DEI programs to help eliminate microaggressions and teach about topics such as personal pronouns and the non-binary nature of gender
- Throwing a squalling fit when the party learns of the coronation of Ronaldus Magnus, new ruler over the Keep on the Borderlands
- Witnessing actual bands of real adventurers venturing into the Caves of Chaos to undo all the stupid crap the party has done in the 5.5 version of this adventure location.
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