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DCC vs 5e

Started by RabidWookie, September 06, 2014, 01:47:27 AM

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Quote from: finarvyn;822837Not so much unrelated, actually. This announcement was the impetus that got me thinking about running DCC modules in my in-store 5E game.

i think that you should try to get them to play dcc :D

for me 5e vs dcc is no brainer. 5e is ok but i love dcc.

Durn

"one thing that you should be considering is that DCC is more of a gambling and less of a resource management game. you have to trust dice and to believe in their 'oracular' properties to fully enjoy it." -someoneupthread

This is a really good distinction between DCC and older D&D.  I was about to agree with this, but then as I think about it I realize that V is actually pretty light on resource management.  I like the idea of resource management, but it doesn't seem to jive with my casual players and short session.   I played/dmed DCC for awhile before V came out. I loved it, though I got tired of funnels quick. I've made a "Warrior" class for V and use DCC spell tables for Magic Scroll effects.  And, of course, I use the modules.

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Quote from: Durn;823633"one thing that you should be considering is that DCC is more of a gambling and less of a resource management game. you have to trust dice and to believe in their 'oracular' properties to fully enjoy it." -someoneupthread

This is a really good distinction between DCC and older D&D.  I was about to agree with this, but then as I think about it I realize that V is actually pretty light on resource management.  I like the idea of resource management, but it doesn't seem to jive with my casual players and short session.   I played/dmed DCC for awhile before V came out. I loved it, though I got tired of funnels quick. I've made a "Warrior" class for V and use DCC spell tables for Magic Scroll effects.  And, of course, I use the modules.

i said that and still think it is true. v is a less resource management game than pathfinder (for example) but still is more than dcc. d&d is a resource management game and dcc takes a step in different direction.

for example, in v i played a monk and had to allocate ki points in order to get shit done. i give ki and something happens. in dcc i played thief and used luck to bet that something might happen. more luck i burn it is more likely that something will happen.

Durn

I agree.  Especially about how DCC is most fun when you embrace the mystic vagaries of the dice.  
For me, V with some Classic modules and bits and pieces is perfect.  Its a gold mine, but I doubt I'll run straight DCC again.  I'll play it any time of course.

yabaziou

I have read this thread with interest and this made me curious about DCC. I have bought the book and it is huge ! I have only read a few pages but it looks like the bastard child of D&D and Warhammer ! I think that I will enjoy it !
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I sold off my DCC after getting 5e.
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Both games do different specific things well out of the box, but I'll suggest that I can run some very weird D&D 5E (and even use DCC modules with conversion) with less effort than it would take me to, say, add in tieflings of eldritch knights or something to DCC. But this is a minor quibble; I could do either if I really wanted to (but I do dislike race-as-class).

Really though for me its just a "not enough time" problem and in the end D&D 5E is a flavor and edition I can get my players behind, while DCC waits for that break period between regular campaigns when I feel like I have the requisite energy necessary to introduce my players to something that's a bit outside their comfort zone. In the meantime, I read and enjoy DCC and pilfer it for ideas in my 5E games.


(EDIT: I think DCC is great because of its deliberate dive into 70's era fantasy weirdness, albeit more the "LP cover album" era of fantasy than anything genuinely Appendix N.....but if you've been playing stuff that way all along for these decades it's a harder sell that you really need a game to do that for you when you're already doing it with whatever D&D is floating around anyway. Still, DCC has a great aesthetic and design, and is really well written, so its hard not to want to play it).

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I've played DCC, I'd love to run it but people in my group dislike randomness to a point of refusing.

I have played 5e. I think 5e feels like the D&D I remember from BECMI when I was 16.

DCC feels like Stormbringer and T&T and weird turned to 11, I love it.

But whether I'll ever get to play it outside a con one off, not sure.
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yabaziou

I have started my reading of DCC and i feel a little overwhelmed by the numerous tables and the way the magic system works. A strange but kind 8 magic ball had adviced me to get with it or be done with DCC. So it will try to embrace the weirdness of the randomness and the multiple dice throws !
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Quote from: yabaziou;825175I have started my reading of DCC and i feel a little overwhelmed by the numerous tables and the way the magic system works.
It's actually not so bad when you have the PDF and always keep a dossier of relevant tables for your character at hand for quick finding. Neither my cleric nor the wizard had much trouble with it.
Fighter, Dwarf, Halfling and Thief in the group have the issue neither. They don't have much tablechecking but fumbles and crits anyway.

Our GM always has the PDF open in the background with spell bookmarks extended. Not much issues on his side either.
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While neither would be my first choice for a D&D game, I think I'd go with DCC.  I'm not super-familiar with either system, but DCC seems like it would be more fun.
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Quote from: Skyrock;825209It's actually not so bad when you have the PDF and always keep a dossier of relevant tables for your character at hand for quick finding. Neither my cleric nor the wizard had much trouble with it.
Fighter, Dwarf, Halfling and Thief in the group have the issue neither. They don't have much tablechecking but fumbles and crits anyway.

Our GM always has the PDF open in the background with spell bookmarks extended. Not much issues on his side either.

That is actually a sound and nice piece of advice ! Thanks for giving it to me !
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Quote from: yabaziou;824861I have read this thread with interest and this made me curious about DCC. I have bought the book and it is huge ! I have only read a few pages but it looks like the bastard child of D&D and Warhammer ! I think that I will enjoy it !

I'm sure you will! At least, if you're my kind of person.
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Quote from: yabaziou;825311That is actually a sound and nice piece of advice ! Thanks for giving it to me !

An even better advice, get the free "Crawler Companion" app from Purple Sorcerer.  It is absolutely awesome, and will make things like figuring out spells as simple as pressing a button (or is that tapping a screen, these days?).
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Quote from: RPGPundit;825813An even better advice, get the free "Crawler Companion" app from Purple Sorcerer.  It is absolutely awesome, and will make things like figuring out spells as simple as pressing a button (or is that tapping a screen, these days?).

That is actual the best advice ! This app is godsend (I might be in hyberpole mode) ! The persons who made are very kind and sensible. I should probably read more of yours threads about this game, Pundit. I have read it a little more and I like the things I see and the vibes I get from it.
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