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DCC has fallen prey to the woke

Started by GeekyBugle, July 18, 2023, 08:55:05 PM

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GamerforHire

#15
July 19, 2023, 10:22:55 AM
Many of you, OP included, are over the top. This sort of gender-neutral, third person pronoun usage has become common in publishing and has been for years. If you want to object to ahistorical rewrites of culture, or excessive virtue-signaling grandstanding, or blatant denigration of some groups so as to (supposedly) help others, I get it and agree with you. But screaming "Woke!" all the time smacks of a bunch of Karens performing Peter and the Wolf.

Rob Necronomicon

#16
July 19, 2023, 10:26:43 AM
Quote from: GamerforHire on July 19, 2023, 10:22:55 AM
Many of you, OP included, are over the top. This sort of gender-neutral, third person pronoun usage has become common in publishing and has been for years. If you want to object to ahistorical rewrites of culture, or excessive virtue-signaling grandstanding, or blatant denigration of some groups so as to (supposedly) help others, I get it and agree with you. But screaming "Woke!" all the time smacks of a bunch of Karens performing Peter and the Wolf.

In this case, it's because of blatant virtue signaling.

Scooter

#17
July 19, 2023, 11:22:04 AM
If a publisher cannot use English correctly I don't buy the product.  Material costs money.  You want my money?  Do it right.
There is no saving throw vs. stupidity

Grognard GM

#18
July 19, 2023, 11:24:34 AM
Quote from: GamerforHire on July 19, 2023, 10:22:55 AM
Many of you, OP included, are over the top. This sort of gender-neutral, third person pronoun usage has become common in publishing and has been for years. If you want to object to ahistorical rewrites of culture, or excessive virtue-signaling grandstanding, or blatant denigration of some groups so as to (supposedly) help others, I get it and agree with you. But screaming "Woke!" all the time smacks of a bunch of Karens performing Peter and the Wolf.

This reads as "woke has been seeping in to publishing for years, and now that you've noticed and are sick of it, you're always going on about wokeness!"

It was woke and stupid then, they just irritated us enough to care. Also, as stated, they ANNOUNCED IT. If they're just changed it without fanfare, we'd call it stupid, rather than woke.
I'm a middle aged guy with a lot of free time, looking for similar, to form a group for regular gaming. You should be chill, non-woke, and have time on your hands.

See below:

https://www.therpgsite.com/news-and-adverts/looking-to-form-a-group-of-people-with-lots-of-spare-time-for-regular-games/

Zalman

#19
July 19, 2023, 11:33:29 AM
Quote from: Chris24601 on July 19, 2023, 09:55:06 AM
I prefer writing for the second person for rules (ie. "You gain a +4 bonus to your check."
This. It's both inherently gender neutral, easier to read, and more engaging for the reader-player.

Quote from: GamerforHire on July 19, 2023, 10:22:55 AM
Many of you, OP included, are over the top. This sort of gender-neutral, third person pronoun usage has become common in publishing and has been for years.
Complete nonsense. What is common is to use a plural pronoun for an indeterminate person, i.e., "if anyone sticks their hand in the fire, they will get burned". Using plural pronouns for specific individuals is entirely different -- complete aberration of English intentionally designed to disrupt, confuse, and control.
Old School? Back in my day we just called it "School."

Brad

#20
July 19, 2023, 12:34:46 PM
Pretty sad a group of people are so mentally weak they can't handle correct English. I like DCC, but I don't think I'll be giving Wokeman Games anymore money at this point.
It takes considerable knowledge just to realize the extent of your own ignorance.

Lurkndog

#21
July 19, 2023, 12:53:48 PM
Quote from: Ruprecht on July 18, 2023, 10:04:53 PM
Isn't gender neutral avoiding he or she and using the awkward combined he/she or avoiding pronouns altogether?
I'm not sure that's woke, folks have been doing that long before Woke was a thing.

I would say it was one of the earliest stages of woke, back when it seemed harmless. This stuff came about in the 1990s.

DocJones

#22
July 19, 2023, 12:54:10 PM Last Edit: July 19, 2023, 12:55:59 PM by DocJones
Quote from: Scooter on July 19, 2023, 11:22:04 AM
If a publisher cannot use English correctly I don't buy the product.  Material costs money.  You want my money?  Do it right.
I'm going to bet they didn't touch their French, German, Italian or Portugese editions.

GamerforHire

#23
July 19, 2023, 01:34:02 PM
Quote from: DocJones on July 19, 2023, 12:54:10 PM
Quote from: Scooter on July 19, 2023, 11:22:04 AM
If a publisher cannot use English correctly I don't buy the product.  Material costs money.  You want my money?  Do it right.
I'm going to bet they didn't touch their French, German, Italian or Portugese editions.

Those are different languages with different rules. Are you anti-woke crusaders that obsessed with keeping things the same that we are now going to start jumping up and down about pronoun usages in other languages and countries too?

GamerforHire

#24
July 19, 2023, 01:43:35 PM
Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on July 19, 2023, 10:26:43 AM
Quote from: GamerforHire on July 19, 2023, 10:22:55 AM
Many of you, OP included, are over the top. This sort of gender-neutral, third person pronoun usage has become common in publishing and has been for years. If you want to object to ahistorical rewrites of culture, or excessive virtue-signaling grandstanding, or blatant denigration of some groups so as to (supposedly) help others, I get it and agree with you. But screaming "Woke!" all the time smacks of a bunch of Karens performing Peter and the Wolf.

In this case, it's because of blatant virtue signaling.

It is eight words in a 17-line post, and they save the exclamation point for the fact they claim it is typo-free. Good Lord, this is "virtue signaling" to you? Just how sensitive are you?

GeekyBugle

#25
July 19, 2023, 01:44:21 PM
Quote from: GamerforHire on July 19, 2023, 01:34:02 PM
Quote from: DocJones on July 19, 2023, 12:54:10 PM
Quote from: Scooter on July 19, 2023, 11:22:04 AM
If a publisher cannot use English correctly I don't buy the product.  Material costs money.  You want my money?  Do it right.
I'm going to bet they didn't touch their French, German, Italian or Portugese editions.

Those are different languages with different rules. Are you anti-woke crusaders that obsessed with keeping things the same that we are now going to start jumping up and down about pronoun usages in other languages and countries too?

Well, YOUR camp has already started trying to colonize our language and culture: Latinx anyone?
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

Rob Necronomicon

#26
July 19, 2023, 01:47:09 PM
Quote from: GamerforHire on July 19, 2023, 01:43:35 PM
Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on July 19, 2023, 10:26:43 AM
Quote from: GamerforHire on July 19, 2023, 10:22:55 AM
Many of you, OP included, are over the top. This sort of gender-neutral, third person pronoun usage has become common in publishing and has been for years. If you want to object to ahistorical rewrites of culture, or excessive virtue-signaling grandstanding, or blatant denigration of some groups so as to (supposedly) help others, I get it and agree with you. But screaming "Woke!" all the time smacks of a bunch of Karens performing Peter and the Wolf.

In this case, it's because of blatant virtue signaling.


It is eight words in a 17-line post, and they save the exclamation point for the fact they claim it is typo-free. Good Lord, this is "virtue signaling" to you? Just how sensitive are you?


Awww... gotta' love a little SJW troll infiltrator.

GeekyBugle

#27
July 19, 2023, 01:58:39 PM
Quote from: GamerforHire on July 19, 2023, 01:43:35 PM
Quote from: Rob Necronomicon on July 19, 2023, 10:26:43 AM
Quote from: GamerforHire on July 19, 2023, 10:22:55 AM
Many of you, OP included, are over the top. This sort of gender-neutral, third person pronoun usage has become common in publishing and has been for years. If you want to object to ahistorical rewrites of culture, or excessive virtue-signaling grandstanding, or blatant denigration of some groups so as to (supposedly) help others, I get it and agree with you. But screaming "Woke!" all the time smacks of a bunch of Karens performing Peter and the Wolf.

In this case, it's because of blatant virtue signaling.

It is eight words in a 17-line post, and they save the exclamation point for the fact they claim it is typo-free. Good Lord, this is "virtue signaling" to you? Just how sensitive are you?

Quick, someone contact whoever is in charge of updating the narrative patch on the NPCs! We have several arguing it's happening and it's a good thing and some arguing it's not happening...

Either one group hasn't gotten the latest patch or the other group got it too soon.
Quote from: Rhedyn

Here is why this forum tends to be so stupid. Many people here think Joe Biden is "The Left", when he is actually Far Right and every US republican is just an idiot.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."

― George Orwell

hedgehobbit

#28
July 19, 2023, 02:33:38 PM
Quote from: GamerforHire on July 19, 2023, 10:22:55 AM
Many of you, OP included, are over the top. This sort of gender-neutral, third person pronoun usage has become common in publishing and has been for years.

The Three Stages of Woke Infiltration:

1- They aren't going to do that. You are just being paranoid.
2- They did it one time. You can easily just ignore it.
3- This has been happening for years now, why are you complaining?

Thorn Drumheller

#29
July 19, 2023, 02:36:12 PM
Wow. They didn't want to misgender Jim Roslof

DCC RPG is dedicated to
Jim Roslof
1945-2011
TSR class of 1979
One of the great fantasy illustrators,
who is already missed. their work
for DCC RPG includes their last
four illustrations, which appear on
pages 76, 88, 110, and 205, as well
as prior illustrations appearing on
pages 13 and 375.

My hardcopy says "his"
Member in good standing of COSM.
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