Will there ever be a new dc comics role-playing game very soon?
I Am very sorry to ask this question.

A new DC comics RPG game? I don't know of any knowledge on that.

Quote from: Ratguy on September 03, 2023, 06:05:42 PM
Will there ever be a new dc comics role-playing game very soon?
I Am very sorry to ask this question.

Unlikely. DC comics is just as woke/broke as Disney these days and the last big version of a DC Comics game (a reskin of M&M 3e) not only has very solid mechanics, but also coincided with pretty much the last time DC hasn't sucked (i.e. all the lore in its sourcebooks is from just before the Flashpoint/Nu52 reboot... the one so bad the writers retconned the whole retcon into having been a multiversal attack on reality by a sociopathic cosmic entity meant to cripple the DC Universe).

Ironically, with all the resets they've done the old material almost works as written again (Wonder Woman stealing Cassie Sandsmark/Wonder-Girl III's origin as the daughter of Zeus is about the only thing that seems to have really stuck from the Nu-52 era).

The only place that might not be considered an utter failure in DC land is it's WB-based animation department and it's material isn't in any sort of shared universe beyond some version of Batman showing up in 90% of it.

Basically, until DC gets it's shit together or falls so far that the rpg  licensing is practically free, and/or someone develops a super-innovative new RPG system they think can be bolstered by tying the DC IP to it, you're probably not going to see any sort of new DC-universe based rpg.

The old version still 100% works with the still supported M&M3e though... so there's that.

Quote from: Chris24601 on September 04, 2023, 07:42:51 AM
The old version still 100% works with the still supported M&M3e though... so there's that.

  Although you do have to go to the secondary market for it. The core book seems to be running slightly above MSRP (which isn't bad considering that it's about 10 years old and the inflation we've seen), but the Heroes & Villains books are running high, especially the second one. The Universe book seems to be easier to find.

   Which reminds me, I've got a set of the four volumes that I'm looking to sell to a good home.

Quote from: Armchair Gamer on September 04, 2023, 10:05:16 AM

Quote from: Chris24601 on September 04, 2023, 07:42:51 AM
The old version still 100% works with the still supported M&M3e though... so there's that.

  Although you do have to go to the secondary market for it. The core book seems to be running slightly above MSRP (which isn't bad considering that it's about 10 years old and the inflation we've seen), but the Heroes & Villains books are running high, especially the second one. The Universe book seems to be easier to find.

   Which reminds me, I've got a set of the four volumes that could use a good home.

wow,count me in,send me a personal message,

I have a copy of the M&M DC Comics game and it was pretty good in my opinion. I'd play it if my group were so inclined.

There was a Kickstarter in 2022 that raised $1.5M for a Batman RPG based on the D20-based French game Untold Tales Modern. It is supposedly shipping in early 2024. (It was originally scheduled for fall 2023, but is delayed.)

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/806316071/batmantm-gotham-city-chronicles-season-3-and-rpg

The last hope for DC quality was "Young Justice", season one was tight, wokeness was kept at a minimum.  By Season 4, Aqualad sucks a lot of cock, we've got a muslim motherbox and we got space bug teaching everyone about proper pronoun use who also wants to fuck his space ship.  At least they didn't do White Martian Privelege, although I'm sure their writers were trying to find someway to shoehorn that narrative in.

My hobby shop dropped all comics recently.  They carry some games and minis but its become a collectible card game shop.  There is no generation growing up reading DC Comics or Marvel comics.  There is no market for a new DC Super Heroes game. 

I would look towards a generic superhero ruleset personally.

TLDR: DC went way woke, they lost the youth audience, bad for game prospects.

I was done with DC once they decided continually rebooting the Legion was a good idea

The IP is dead.

However - nothing prevents you from raising it to glory with the system of your choice at your table.

Quote from: tenbones on September 05, 2023, 01:13:38 PM
The IP is dead.

However - nothing prevents you from raising it to glory with the system of your choice at your table.

Plenty of fans in their 50's and above.  And we all have a lot of time to learn new systems.

Quote from: tenbones on September 05, 2023, 01:13:38 PM
The IP is dead.

The comics are, but it has its moments in other media. My Adventures with Superman is probably the most Superman I've seen Superman be depicted as in any medium in more than a decade and nary a whiff of Woke to boot (unless you count the gay French gorilla and his disembodied brain love interest who show up in an episode).*

I doubt it's more than a blip in the grand slide into oblivion, but I will take my enjoyment where I can.

* I guess some would count continuing past race swaps as woke; Perry is modeled on Lawrence Fishburne's version and Jimmy is black like CW Supergirl version, but amusingly I find it almost goes the other way as Jimmy is now the woke-despised "token black friend" trope personified.

Quote from: Chris24601 on September 06, 2023, 01:12:03 PM

Quote from: tenbones on September 05, 2023, 01:13:38 PM
The IP is dead.

The comics are, but it has its moments in other media. My Adventures with Superman is probably the most Superman I've seen Superman be depicted as in any medium in more than a decade and nary a whiff of Woke to boot (unless you count the gay French gorilla and his disembodied brain love interest who show up in an episode).*

I doubt it's more than a blip in the grand slide into oblivion, but I will take my enjoyment where I can.

* I guess some would count continuing past race swaps as woke; Perry is modeled on Lawrence Fishburne's version and Jimmy is black like CW Supergirl version, but amusingly I find it almost goes the other way as Jimmy is now the woke-despised "token black friend" trope personified.

For sure. But as long as Warner owns DC and their ideological motives get ahead of the artforms they're ostensibly supposed to be curating and cultivating - the downward slide to oblivion will only stop when we stop giving our money and attention to them.

I know you (and everyone else) knows this - and yeah, it sucks. But I'll be honest: introducing my players to my own curation of the DC and Marvel universe (as a former comics writer) and making their characters part of that shared universe (Earth-417) has been a total revelation to them as well as myself. *I* do DC and Marvel better than either of these companies - and so can you and everyone else. We don't *need* them.

Quote from: Chris24601 on September 06, 2023, 01:12:03 PM

Quote from: tenbones on September 05, 2023, 01:13:38 PM
The IP is dead.

The comics are, but it has its moments in other media. My Adventures with Superman is probably the most Superman I've seen Superman be depicted as in any medium in more than a decade and nary a whiff of Woke to boot (unless you count the gay French gorilla and his disembodied brain love interest who show up in an episode).*

I doubt it's more than a blip in the grand slide into oblivion, but I will take my enjoyment where I can.

* I guess some would count continuing past race swaps as woke; Perry is modeled on Lawrence Fishburne's version and Jimmy is black like CW Supergirl version, but amusingly I find it almost goes the other way as Jimmy is now the woke-despised "token black friend" trope personified.

Um no, not even close to superman by a wide wide wid wide wide wide margin.  Louis is depicted as a man, give her a male voice actor and call him Mac and its believable as drawn.  Hell, Louis = Xandir from Drawn together, prove me wrong they have very similar character art now.  Superman is an effeminate whiney lady boy.  Jimmy Olsen and Perry White are now black.

These go against what would have been the character bible for Superman.  Whenever I see race swipes and art where they depict characters as the opposite sex, fuck that, I'm out, burn it with a fire.  It looks like Young Justice Season 5 Straight out of the Hood: Seattle Edition w/ Lattes and Puberty Blockers.

Quote from: honeydipperdavid on September 04, 2023, 10:55:43 PMMy hobby shop dropped all comics recently.  They carry some games and minis but its become a collectible card game shop.  There is no generation growing up reading DC Comics or Marvel comics.  There is no market for a new DC Super Heroes game. 

My hobby shop (Shoutout to The Deep in Huntsville, AL) still has a huge comic section - it's like half the store floor space - but it's mostly either older comics (tons and tons of long boxes of old comics), or anime/manga, or the smaller labels. You don't see a lot of the twin juggernaut's stuff on the new racks. Some, certainly, but I wouldn't say it's anywhere near as prevalent as it used to be.