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Started by Erik Boielle, January 12, 2008, 08:21:00 AM

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Spike

#105
February 07, 2008, 07:56:15 PM
Quote from: David Rsome stuff by Ian Watson.

Regards,
David R


Y'know, if I had read some stuff by C.S. Goto before getting into 40k, I might say some dumb shit like this. Heck, if I'd read the Keven J. Anderson crap I might have been thankful never to have seen the Star Wars movies, but luckily I saw the movies first.

One fucking author?

Wow, your pervasive grasp of the literature is so comprhensive I'm stunned.

Considering the ones being hyped and advertised in the back of Dark Heresy as practically 'required reading' are by an entirely different author on top of things... There is a reason Dan Abnett has some dozen plus 40k books under his belt to Ian Watsons... what, one trilogy?

Here's a hint... read the popular books for 40k, not trash that fills out the shelves.
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David R

#106
February 07, 2008, 07:56:26 PM
QuoteYes. Heaven forbid that they actually make material that would appeal to consumers of their other successful products, riding on the popularity of some of the best loved characters in gaming. With thinking like that they might have stayed in business!

I dunno...isn't DH selling pretty well ? This just could be because folks want to grab a piece of the cake and make a profit on ebay. I don't know much of the history but they made WFRP based on their war game and created a game of grubby fantasy. *shrug* But then again you may be right, I'm not the intended audience (although I have to say they did manage to hook me in)... I'm so old school , I still think that the Eldar Aspect Warriors are cool....

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David R

David R

#107
February 07, 2008, 08:05:19 PM
Quote from: SpikeWow, your pervasive grasp of the literature is so comprhensive I'm stunned.

Hey it was a pretty good book(s).

Regards,
David R

Erik Boielle

#108
February 07, 2008, 08:06:41 PM
QuoteI don't know much of the history but they made WFRP based on their war game and created a game of grubby fantasy.

Given that it has now turned up its toes and died on FOUR occasions, some might doubt the wisdom of that decision. Given how at odd it is with the rest of GWs stuff.

I mean, hell, I'm just throwing it out there - given that your RPG keeps dying, maybe you should write something that might appeal more to fans of the biggest IP in hobby gaming. You know, the one with the same name as on the front of the book?

I know you have a hard on for call of cthulhu, but seriously, evidence suggests that that might not be what Warhammer fans are looking for.
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David R

#109
February 07, 2008, 08:09:36 PM
Quote from: Erik BoielleGiven that it has now turned up its toes and died on FOUR occasions, some might doubt the wisdom of that decision. Given how at odd it is with the rest of GWs stuff.

Fair enough....but 2E which was a more streamlined version of the game could have been a contender, right?

Edit :
QuoteI know you have a hard on for call of cthulhu, but seriously, evidence suggests that that might not be what Warhammer fans are looking for
You must have me confused with someone else.

Regards,
David R

blakkie

#110
February 07, 2008, 08:13:11 PM
Quote from: David RFair enough....but 2E which was a more streamlined version of the game could have been a contender, right?
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Erik Boielle

#111
February 07, 2008, 08:19:52 PM
Quote from: David RFair enough....but 2E which was a more streamlined version of the game could have been a contender, right?

Nah. 2E was still designed so that no mater who your favorite character from the wargame/novels/viideogames was, you couldn't play them, largely to appease vocal but unimportant denizens of web fora.

Where is the complete slayers handbook? The Chaos Knights guidebook?

In short, it died the day it was concieved.
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David R

#112
February 07, 2008, 08:20:19 PM
Quote from: blakkieI grew up forking turds out of a barn, standing shin deep in liquid shit. I saw no need to play a game about it.

:eek:...so it's a class thing :D

Regards,
David R

David R

#113
February 07, 2008, 08:21:40 PM
Quote from: Erik BoielleIn short, it died the day it was concieved.

Eh, I thought it was doing pretty well? They were certainly churning out supplements.

Regards,
David R

Erik Boielle

#114
February 07, 2008, 08:22:00 PM
QuoteYou must have me confused with someone else.

I was talking to,,yknow, Them. Not you.

Damn You!

I mean er, Damn Them!
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Erik Boielle

#115
February 07, 2008, 08:24:01 PM
QuoteEh, I thought it was doing pretty well? They were certainly churning out supplements.

I suspect, although this is basically a guess, that strong initial sales based on it being a WARHAMMER rpg tailed off rapidly as it became apparent that it had little to do with warhammer.

Then it died.
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blakkie

#116
February 07, 2008, 10:45:29 PM
Quote from: David R:eek:...so it's a class thing :D

Regards,
David R
Maybe. :o  Or maybe it's a "I play RPGs to be EPIC!, not be depressed" thing. :D

P.S. My class now is bordering on polar opposite that of my relatively humble redneck beginings. ;)
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David R

#117
February 07, 2008, 11:42:09 PM
QuoteI suspect, although this is basically a guess, that strong initial sales based on it being a WARHAMMER rpg tailed off rapidly as it became apparent that it had little to do with warhammer.

Then it died.

I'm not too sure about this.

This is purely anecdotal but the Warhammer mini gamers I know (being once part of the scene) had no interest in the second ed rpg nor did the gamers who both role played and wargamed but who had no interest in the rpg the first time around.

I think the second ed was made for the first ed gamers and hopefully for a new batch of gamers. Also the supplements from what I've read were supposed to be stand alone products. I have no idea about actual sales but it seemed to be doing pretty well.

blakkie - I guess this means I won't be running Nicotine Girls for you anytime soon :(

Regards,
David R

Kiero

#118
February 08, 2008, 07:11:58 AM
Quote from: David RHey it was a pretty good book(s).

Regards,
David R

Didn't rate them, myself, but then I don't like sci-fi either.

Quote from: David REh, I thought it was doing pretty well? They were certainly churning out supplements.

Regards,
David R

There's the deceptive thing about the print run selling out. It's sold out into the distribution channels, to retailers. Yet in Britain at least there's plenty of copies sitting on shelves, and people don't seem to be struggling to get it from Amazon.
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One Horse Town

#119
February 08, 2008, 07:34:03 AM
Quote from: KieroDidn't rate them, myself, but then I don't like sci-fi either.


Huh? Why do you like 40k then?

It's becoming rather evident that you could write what you do like on the back of a stamp. Bah, humbug.  :pundit:
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