D66?

Dominus Nox · November 20, 2006, 07:59:15 PM

Anyone use the d66 system for task resolution in games? I think it was invented by Gary Gygax for his abortive game "Cyborg Commando" but has been adopted by other game systems.

If you're interested in learing about d66 reply and I'll post a link to a site that shows how to use it for traveller 4e.

James McMurray · November 20, 2006, 08:16:42 PM

Is that the same as 2d6 but taken seperately or something?

C.W.Richeson · November 20, 2006, 10:07:10 PM

Yeah, I've never heard of this system. Which surprises me.

KenHR · November 20, 2006, 10:21:46 PM

Like a percentile roll, but using d6s?

Traveller used it in several places (rumor table, frex). I think several older wargames used such a roll, too, but don't quote me on that bit.

blakkie · November 20, 2006, 10:48:57 PM

Quote from: KenHRLike a percentile roll, but using d6s?

Traveller used it in several places (rumor table, frex). I think several older wargames used such a roll, too, but don't quote me on that bit.

Technically a 2-digit Base 6 roll, yah that's the one. I believe that it is also used in a couple of the Warhammer games.

KenHR · November 20, 2006, 10:54:17 PM

I toyed with using such a roll for a game once, as you could do fun things with modifiers, assigning special meaning to results with 0, 7, 8 or 9 in the ones position. Nothing ever came of it, though.

Only place I've used such a roll extensively is in wargaming. A friend of mine has quite a few games from a company called the Gamers. Their house systems use a d66 to allow a greater spread of results than 2d6. They don't use dice roll modifiers, though, only column shifts and strength modifiers.

hgjs · November 21, 2006, 02:39:32 AM

Quote from: blakkieTechnically a 2-digit Base 6 roll

That's demented.

Dominus Nox · November 21, 2006, 02:45:56 AM

OK, here's a link to a d66 based task resolution system, d66 rolls 2 d6s, with one being the first digit and the other the second to give a result from 11-66.

An easy task would succeed on a 56-, an impossible one would resolve on a 16-, for example.

Yeah, it's basically a d100 using d6s.

http://traveller.downport.com/t4/task.shtml

Dominus Nox · November 21, 2006, 02:47:59 AM

OK, here's a link to a d66 based task resolution system, d66 rolls 2 d6s, with one being the first digit and the other the second to give a result from 11-66.

An easy task would succeed on a 56-, an impossible one would resolve on an 06, making it impossible barring some mods, for example.

Yeah, it's basically a d100 using d6s.

http://traveller.downport.com/t4/task.shtml

blakkie · November 21, 2006, 03:08:30 AM

Quote from: KenHRI toyed with using such a roll for a game once, as you could do fun things with modifiers, assigning special meaning to results with 0, 7, 8 or 9 in the ones position. Nothing ever came of it, though.

Umm, there are no 0s, 7s, 8s, or 9s. This is Base 6 (using digits 1-6 instead of 0-5). So, for example, 35 + 2 = 41.

Quote from: hgjsThat's demented.

Yes. And as Ken demonstrates above it isn't entirely natural to grasp for people who are not math nuts or old bit-heads . Even for bit-heads who are used to octal or hex or going back far enough quaternary (binary gives virtually no experience at all with this sort of thing) you still have to adjust to the Base 6, along with there being no zero. I personally would rather not deal with it myself, and at one time I knew the hex multiplication tables (though don't ask me exactly why I did, I really couldn't tell you, I just did a lot of hex math and somewhere along the line it clung to my brain for a few years).

Dirk Remmecke · November 21, 2006, 05:01:28 AM

Quote from: Dominus NoxAnyone use the d66 system for task resolution in games? I think it was invented by Gary Gygax for his abortive game "Cyborg Commando" but has been adopted by other game systems.

The original French edition of In Nomine Satanis / Magna Veritas (published 1989) uses a d666 that is in fact a d66 with the third die showing the quality of the success/failure.

For the Steve Jackson remake In Nomine Derek Pearcy changed that to a 2d6-roll-under-attribute system.

Dirk

Settembrini · November 21, 2006, 05:03:52 AM

Hi Dirk!
Glad you are here.

KenHR · November 21, 2006, 08:04:16 AM

Quote from: blakkieUmm, there are no 0s, 7s, 8s, or 9s. This is Base 6 (using digits 1-6 instead of 0-5). So, for example, 35 + 2 = 41.

I understand base 6. I wasn't referring to base 6. You don't have to use it that way, was all I was sayin' (not sayin' well, admittedly, but sayin'). But go on and insult my intelligence in your next sentence, anyway.

(edit: no reason)

James McMurray · November 21, 2006, 10:06:31 AM

Seems overly and unnecessarily cumbersome compared to percentile.

Blackleaf · November 21, 2006, 10:36:02 AM

The only thing I really like about it is that it uses d6 -- a more commonly available dice. Some people find that more accessible, and if you have large pools of dice, d6 is much better. Unfortunately the math will offset all of that. Most people dislike math, and weird math even more.