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Started by Maddman, April 27, 2006, 09:38:07 AM

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gleichman

Quote from: PakaQuoting my "swine" source:

Snort
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"The purpose of an open mind is to close it, on particular subjects. If you never do — you\'ve simply abdicated the responsibility to think." - William F. Buckley.

Paka

Quote from: gleichmanSnort

Your snort is sweet-sweet music to my ears.

:ACFC08:

Sigmund

Quote from: there_is_no_bobAnd what difference does any of that make?  They want to talk about esoteric concepts and crap that really doesn't matter to you, why should you care?  It happens in any area where people gather together and try and talk about something.  They'll start talking about the same things, over and over again, and then they'll invent a word for it (at least in English).  That's pretty much how this language works.

I already answered the only question posed here. To save you from having to go back and read my previous posts, I'll repeat it. It sounds stupid to me. By saying this I am expressing my opinion about the usefulness...the value of the subject being discussed. I have repeatedly stated that it is my opinion, and that I could very well be the only one with this particular opinion. Until the Nutkins tell me I'm no longer allowed to express my opinion, I will continue to do so. You seem to be making your opinion of my opinion quite clear as well, so I won't direct your question back to you.

Maddman, in response to my stating my opinion, has been stating his opinion. This way we can perhaps each gain a greater understanding of the other and maybe even arrive at some kind of accord...learning something, hopefully, in the process.

QuoteYep, there's no need.  There's also no need to ever say DeeEmGee, ans opposed to Dungeon Master's Guide.  If I'm going to be talking about the DMG much, though, I certainly know which one I'm going to use.

So why create yet another term, when there is already an easy way to refer to the subject that anyone who might be interested already understands? See below for one possible answer.

QuoteAnd to someone who understands the word as it is defined in that context, these things do the same.

If that were my point, this statement might mean something.

QuoteIf you go up to someone who isn't aquainted with an acronym and start using it, you'll have to explain it.  The same holds with any piece of new vocabulary.

Really, you could say "giant ball of matter that has become so dense that anything going past the event horizon, including light, gets absorbed into it" or you could say "black hole".  One is easier to type, but they both convey pretty much the same information.

True, for someone who isn't familiar with the acronym, it would have to be explained. So what? Does that mean I need to go and make another word to refer to the same thing, and then have to explain that too? Why would I do this? There's already language in place, within the society of people who would care at all, that would serve to convey the information I'm trying to communicate. What would be the reason to create an even more obscure vocabulary on top of it? Why would I create and start to use the word "Zippy" to label what can already be called "black hole" and "singularity"?

The only reason that comes to mind is if I wanted to, for some reason, separate myself from the rest of the society in question. By using a new vocabulary I can refer to common things in a way that sounds new or innovative. By needlessly coopting terms meant for a different purpose I can seem more insightful, and at the very least distinguish myself from the rest of my peers.

I'm not as extreme as RPGPundit seems to be in that I have no problem with there being a subgroup of RPers who prefer the story style of RPing. What bothers me is how elitist it sounds when it's been discussed in the manner that it has been discussed here at Nutkinland. Lest you say something obvious and non-productive like "Then don't read those threads", I'll respond pre-emptively and say that the type of discussion I find distasteful appears even in threads not directly relating to the topics of story making or theory, even threads I find otherwise interesting. So, I am expressing my opinion about them.
- Chris Sigmund

Old Loser

"I\'d rather be a killer than a victim."

Quote from: John Morrow;418271I role-play for the ride, not the destination.

Sigmund

Quote from: PakaYour snort is sweet-sweet music to my ears.

:ACFC08:

See....first the "snort", then this quote. Why the fucking hostility? This is a fucking game people. Lighten up. Look, now ya have me all worked up too. Damn it, now I look like a hypocrite and have to follow my own advice, and I hate when that happens. Damn it all. :yell:
- Chris Sigmund

Old Loser

"I\'d rather be a killer than a victim."

Quote from: John Morrow;418271I role-play for the ride, not the destination.

Dr_Avalanche

Quote from: SigmundSee....first the "snort", then this quote. Why the fucking hostility? This is a fucking game people. Lighten up. Look, now ya have me all worked up too. Damn it, now I look like a hypocrite and have to follow my own advice, and I hate when that happens. Damn it all. :yell:

Haha.

;)

Paka

Quote from: SigmundSee....first the "snort", then this quote. Why the fucking hostility? This is a fucking game people. Lighten up. Look, now ya have me all worked up too. Damn it, now I look like a hypocrite and have to follow my own advice, and I hate when that happens. Damn it all. :yell:

I thought the snort was an abrupt laugh.

That is what I meant.

Jeez.

No offense to anyone meant.

Cyberzombie

Quote from: PakaNo offense to anyone meant.

Oh yes there was!

And you kick puppies, too!

Quick!  Everybody hate Paka!  :deviousgrin:
 

Paka

Quote from: CyberzombieOh yes there was!

And he kicks puppies, too!

Quick!  Everybody hate him!  :deviousgrin:

I only kick brain damaged gamist puppies that play d20 and everyone knows those puppies had it fuckin' coming.

Dr_Avalanche

Quote from: PakaI only kick brain damaged gamist puppies that play d20 and everyone knows those puppies had it fuckin' coming.

Damn right.

Maddman

Quote from: CyberzombieOh yes there was!

And you kick puppies, too!

Quick!  Everybody hate Paka!  :deviousgrin:

Is that what all the cool gamers are doing?  Okay, I'll hate Paka too.  You know I can't resist a bandwagon.


:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

How's that?
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Sigmund

Quote from: PakaI only kick brain damaged gamist puppies that play d20 and everyone knows those puppies had it fuckin' coming.

Yeah, but what you don't know is that us gamist puppies that play d20 like being kicked....thank you sir, may I have another?

Mwah haha.

:evillaugh:


p.s. How do you think we make it through d20 combats...pure masochism.
- Chris Sigmund

Old Loser

"I\'d rather be a killer than a victim."

Quote from: John Morrow;418271I role-play for the ride, not the destination.

Lady Lakira

Quote from: PakaI only kick brain damaged gamist puppies that play d20 and everyone knows those puppies had it fuckin' coming.

No, no, see, they're not even gamist because they play d20 which is obviously a misguided attempt to achieve a gamist game and which fails miserably because they're all poo-poo heads.

And hell, not even puppies because as everyone knows a puppy is a younger gamer who likes the original Star Wars trilogy, wears a red flannel shirt, and eats rice every second Wednesday (not to be confused with the puppie, who wears blue flannel and eats pasta every second Wednesday because their gaming preferences are radically different).
"I have a theory: it could be bunnies." - Anya, Once More With Feeling