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Critical Role is to DnD (and Newbs' Expectations of D&D) as Porn is to Normal Sex

Started by RPGPundit, January 06, 2019, 02:11:02 AM

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#15
January 07, 2019, 04:48:18 AM
Quote from: Opaopajr;1070752:confused:
/relaxes
... it was the way God intended us to have chargen. :( It kept the cosmos demographics of paladins & rangers in check. :o

Make another thread about it. That's not the subject of this thread.
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#17
January 07, 2019, 11:15:30 AM
Quote from: Anon Adderlan;1070778What are you trying to achieve here?

My question, too. Seriously, wtf do you care, Pundit? Asking for real. Just ignore this crap and advocate for the style of game you enjoy.
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#18
January 07, 2019, 12:35:52 PM
Quote from: Anon Adderlan;1070778What are you trying to achieve here?

Provoke a discussion? Grind an axe? It's his forum, he can post whatever he likes.
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#19
January 07, 2019, 01:20:01 PM
Thinking on it. This is not exactly an old thing really. There have been people who for whatever reason get it in their head that ALL, no really ALL, roleplay sessions are people sitting around the table dressed as their characters and talking in funny voices. That ones been around since at least the 90s and probably longer.

There is allways going to be people like this who see ONE DAMN THING and get it stuck in their little walnut brains that that is what it all is.

This is just another iteration of that. The majority of players though look at these sorts of vids and have enough functional brain cells to know that this is just one style of play amongst a vast variety.

Imaginos

#20
January 07, 2019, 02:35:27 PM
Quote from: RPGPundit;1070655Critical Role affects would-be normal #DnD newbs in the same way that porn can affect virgin's perceptions of what normal sex is like. And it has much the same effects in terms of potential dysfunction when trying the real thing.


I agree with this statement.

Anon Adderlan

#21
January 07, 2019, 03:23:13 PM
Quote from: soltakss;1070813It's his forum, he can post whatever he likes.

Yes, and I'm asking him what he hopes to achieve by doing so.

Because despite his claims of fighting for something all I've ever seen is shameless self-promotion. Ultimately he's no better than Daniel Fox, who hilariously blocked me on #Twitter after I made the same comparison on Google+. Seriously, it still wouldn't surprise me if they're actually working together with the way they both cultivate controversy.

I'm also not an idiot. He deliberately compared CR to porn rather than say professional wrestling because it carries additional implications. And he knows this. So it's a cheap rhetorical trick disguised as a useful insight, which is something I particularly can't stand.

So what's the fucking endgame here Pundit, if there even is one?

S'mon

#22
January 07, 2019, 06:01:28 PM
Quote from: Anon Adderlan;1070849Y Ultimately he's no better than Daniel Fox

Steady on old bean!

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#23
January 07, 2019, 09:13:35 PM
as I said on youtube, "Porn has better actors"
I'll go further and say it probably has better acting and plots as well, not sure having never been able to sit through a whole episode of CR. I tried man, I really did.
one of my friends asked me if CR was the one with porn stars, and I told them that CR was the one with the dead eyed actors and actresses, going through the motions for money.

SP23

#24
January 07, 2019, 09:19:25 PM
Quote from: RPGPundit;1070755I know exactly what you mean. The research for these videos has been excruciating.

I just won't fucking do it. Fuck this shit, sure I guess I'm a Luddite, but no.

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#25
January 07, 2019, 09:53:59 PM
Quote from: Anon Adderlan;1070778What are you trying to achieve here?

I'm trying to do what Mercer refuses to: making sure people, especially new potential D&D-players, understand that the way CR is filmed is not really how a normal D&D session goes.

That, and in the broader sense save Western Civilization.
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#26
January 07, 2019, 09:56:13 PM
Quote from: Omega;1070821Thinking on it. This is not exactly an old thing really. There have been people who for whatever reason get it in their head that ALL, no really ALL, roleplay sessions are people sitting around the table dressed as their characters and talking in funny voices. That ones been around since at least the 90s and probably longer.
.

You know, that's a good point. The CR stuff is actually playing off the TV-show stereotype of D&D games from decades ago, which never had any resemblance to how real games went. But Mercer knows that much of his non-gaming audience will expect it because that's what they've seen in shows and movies.
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#27
January 07, 2019, 09:59:47 PM
Quote from: Anon Adderlan;1070849Yes, and I'm asking him what he hopes to achieve by doing so.

Because despite his claims of fighting for something all I've ever seen is shameless self-promotion. Ultimately he's no better than Daniel Fox, who hilariously blocked me on #Twitter after I made the same comparison on Google+. Seriously, it still wouldn't surprise me if they're actually working together with the way they both cultivate controversy.

I'm also not an idiot. He deliberately compared CR to porn rather than say professional wrestling because it carries additional implications. And he knows this. So it's a cheap rhetorical trick disguised as a useful insight, which is something I particularly can't stand.

So what's the fucking endgame here Pundit, if there even is one?

Answered above.

And my dude, I actually like porn. I don't like pro wrestling. If the point of the comparison was to denigrate, I'd have used wrestling.  But the point was accuracy, and actually the Porn metaphor is much more effective.

But I made it clear right at the start of the video that I'm completely pro-porn.  It isn't a cheap trick; the cheap trick is Mercer trying to pretend that his pre-fab TV show is a totally normal game of D&D just like you have at home.

Anyways, I guess you've found one difference between me and that other piece of shit you mentioned; I'm not going to ban you for making the comparison.
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#28
January 07, 2019, 10:34:54 PM
Have you guys run into anybody in real life that think that CR is how D&D is played? Or how it should be played? I actually think the Penny Arcade guys did a better job showing folks how to get into the hobby when they started really covering D&D in the 3.x and 4E era.

SP23

#29
January 07, 2019, 11:29:59 PM
Quote from: RPGPundit;1070919I'm trying to do what Mercer refuses to: making sure people, especially new potential D&D-players, understand that the way CR is filmed is not really how a normal D&D session goes.

That, and in the broader sense save Western Civilization.

You're the fucking best!
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