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Critical Role cancelled by Kotaku because... reasons

Started by Reckall, February 09, 2022, 05:39:26 AM

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Quote from: S'mon on February 11, 2022, 03:03:14 PM
Quote from: SHARK on February 11, 2022, 02:47:47 PM
Quote from: S'mon on February 11, 2022, 02:09:31 PM
Quote from: jeff37923 on February 11, 2022, 01:37:08 PM
Michelle Malkin and her family are avid D&D players. It would be hysterical if they moved in on Critical Role.

She DMs 1e AD&D, I'm sure she has no interest in a 5e show.

Greetings!

Michelle Malkin is fucking brilliant. And gorgeous, too. I loved her defense of playing D&D with orcs and whatever. Can you imagine playing in her campaign? She's such an intelligent and sharp woman, I imagine her campaign would be a blast!

I remember watching her video where she holds up her copy of the AD&D Dungeon Master's Guide. She crushes her enemies like Genghis Khan!

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

LOL - yeah, I like her too.  ;D

I wonder if Malkin would guest star on Inappropriate Characters?
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Quote from: Mistwell on February 11, 2022, 09:17:02 PM


Kotaku is not Marxist, Jeff. They are however woke. If you disagree, I'd love to see some cogent argument on how they are actually Marxist or not woke.



I'm pretty sure that if a neutral person were to ask every single employee of Kotaku "would you define your political views as Marxist?" they would all say yes.
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Quote from: RPGPundit on February 12, 2022, 03:31:13 PM
Quote from: S'mon on February 11, 2022, 03:03:14 PM
Quote from: SHARK on February 11, 2022, 02:47:47 PM
Quote from: S'mon on February 11, 2022, 02:09:31 PM
Quote from: jeff37923 on February 11, 2022, 01:37:08 PM
Michelle Malkin and her family are avid D&D players. It would be hysterical if they moved in on Critical Role.

She DMs 1e AD&D, I'm sure she has no interest in a 5e show.

Greetings!

Michelle Malkin is fucking brilliant. And gorgeous, too. I loved her defense of playing D&D with orcs and whatever. Can you imagine playing in her campaign? She's such an intelligent and sharp woman, I imagine her campaign would be a blast!

I remember watching her video where she holds up her copy of the AD&D Dungeon Master's Guide. She crushes her enemies like Genghis Khan!

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

LOL - yeah, I like her too.  ;D

I wonder if Malkin would guest star on Inappropriate Characters?

Contact her and ask. You lose nothing by doing so.

I think that she would seriously consider it, because that seems to be the kind of sense of humor that she has. Although you may have to talk to her agent or publicist or whatever, you probably won't be able to initially contact her directly.
"Meh."

S'mon

Quote from: jeff37923 on February 12, 2022, 05:59:12 PM
Quote from: RPGPundit on February 12, 2022, 03:31:13 PM
Quote from: S'mon on February 11, 2022, 03:03:14 PM
Quote from: SHARK on February 11, 2022, 02:47:47 PM
Quote from: S'mon on February 11, 2022, 02:09:31 PM
Quote from: jeff37923 on February 11, 2022, 01:37:08 PM
Michelle Malkin and her family are avid D&D players. It would be hysterical if they moved in on Critical Role.

She DMs 1e AD&D, I'm sure she has no interest in a 5e show.

Greetings!

Michelle Malkin is fucking brilliant. And gorgeous, too. I loved her defense of playing D&D with orcs and whatever. Can you imagine playing in her campaign? She's such an intelligent and sharp woman, I imagine her campaign would be a blast!

I remember watching her video where she holds up her copy of the AD&D Dungeon Master's Guide. She crushes her enemies like Genghis Khan!

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

LOL - yeah, I like her too.  ;D

I wonder if Malkin would guest star on Inappropriate Characters?

Contact her and ask. You lose nothing by doing so.

I think that she would seriously consider it, because that seems to be the kind of sense of humor that she has. Although you may have to talk to her agent or publicist or whatever, you probably won't be able to initially contact her directly.

She has a public email michellemalkininvestigates@protonmail.com - I don't know if her agent filters it; IME I've emailed people of similar fame & spoken with them directly ok. Jounalists' profession makes them pretty easy to contact.

Tantavalist

Quote from: RPGPundit on February 12, 2022, 03:33:01 PM
I'm pretty sure that if a neutral person were to ask every single employee of Kotaku "would you define your political views as Marxist?" they would all say yes.


They would also say that they're 100% behind tolerance and inclusion, but their behaviour says otherwise.

I'm pretty sure that there are a very large number of people who would define themselves as Christians and/or Patriots if asked those same questions. While an impartial observer who knew what these labels were supposed to mean would disagree.

Marxism is used by the Right in the same way that <whatever>-ism is used by the Left. It's long since stopped meaning what it originally meant and is now just a since catch-all label for anything the person using it doesn't like.

"Nazis are Bad. Because Nazis are Bad I don't like them. I don't like this person. He must therefore be Bad, and if he's Bad he must be a Nazi."

Substituting Marxist for Nazi doesn't make that train of logic any more sound. When people on this site take offence with the use of Marxist they generally aren't defending Marx. They're often saying "This person is not a Marxist but that doesn't mean I don't agree they're trash".

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Quote from: Tantavalist on February 12, 2022, 07:08:36 PM
Quote from: RPGPundit on February 12, 2022, 03:33:01 PM
I'm pretty sure that if a neutral person were to ask every single employee of Kotaku "would you define your political views as Marxist?" they would all say yes.


They would also say that they're 100% behind tolerance and inclusion, but their behaviour says otherwise.

I'm pretty sure that there are a very large number of people who would define themselves as Christians and/or Patriots if asked those same questions. While an impartial observer who knew what these labels were supposed to mean would disagree.

Marxism is used by the Right in the same way that <whatever>-ism is used by the Left. It's long since stopped meaning what it originally meant and is now just a since catch-all label for anything the person using it doesn't like.

"Nazis are Bad. Because Nazis are Bad I don't like them. I don't like this person. He must therefore be Bad, and if he's Bad he must be a Nazi."

Substituting Marxist for Nazi doesn't make that train of logic any more sound. When people on this site take offence with the use of Marxist they generally aren't defending Marx. They're often saying "This person is not a Marxist but that doesn't mean I don't agree they're trash".

I'm not sure... is this "Whataboutism" or "Tu Quoque"?  How about we just limit the discussion to people who self-identify as Marxists, like the original organizers of BLM.  Is it OK to criticize them for their allegiance to that moronic ideology?
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Quote from: Eirikrautha on February 12, 2022, 09:43:01 PM
Quote from: Tantavalist on February 12, 2022, 07:08:36 PM
Quote from: RPGPundit on February 12, 2022, 03:33:01 PM
I'm pretty sure that if a neutral person were to ask every single employee of Kotaku "would you define your political views as Marxist?" they would all say yes.


They would also say that they're 100% behind tolerance and inclusion, but their behaviour says otherwise.

I'm pretty sure that there are a very large number of people who would define themselves as Christians and/or Patriots if asked those same questions. While an impartial observer who knew what these labels were supposed to mean would disagree.

Marxism is used by the Right in the same way that <whatever>-ism is used by the Left. It's long since stopped meaning what it originally meant and is now just a since catch-all label for anything the person using it doesn't like.

"Nazis are Bad. Because Nazis are Bad I don't like them. I don't like this person. He must therefore be Bad, and if he's Bad he must be a Nazi."

Substituting Marxist for Nazi doesn't make that train of logic any more sound. When people on this site take offence with the use of Marxist they generally aren't defending Marx. They're often saying "This person is not a Marxist but that doesn't mean I don't agree they're trash".

I'm not sure... is this "Whataboutism" or "Tu Quoque"?  How about we just limit the discussion to people who self-identify as Marxists, like the original organizers of BLM.  Is it OK to criticize them for their allegiance to that moronic ideology?

Nope. They aren't "True Marxists".

I don't like using the term Marxist for just this reason. There's so many flavors of neo-marxism that it's impossible to avoid the nitwits who go "Ahktually!"

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Since the goalpost seems to be about what "true Marxism" is, I'd like some wisdom on what that really means (literally asking in sincerity since I've studied and taught about Marx for 30 years, this issue interest me).

Ruprecht

Quote from: soundchaser on February 13, 2022, 09:17:09 AM
Since the goalpost seems to be about what "true Marxism" is, I'd like some wisdom on what that really means (literally asking in sincerity since I've studied and taught about Marx for 30 years, this issue interest me).
If you talk to a modern Marxist and ask them to provide an example of a working Marxist economy that didn't lead to piles of dead they'll eventually say that a True Marxist nation does not, and never has, existed, but nexts time they'll get it right.

True Marxism is a fantasy created by Marxists to justify their continued love of a failed and bloody ideology. As far as I can tell modern Marxists are political hipsters that use Marxist dogma to make themselves seem edgy to the uninformed.
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Quote from: RPGPundit on February 09, 2022, 12:19:33 PM
Critical Role is not actually a roleplaying game or people actually playing a roleplaying game.

Of course it's people playing a roleplaying game. That's literally what it is. The style of play may be different from what you do in your games, but that doesn't mean it's not a roleplaying game.  Even if the newer seasons are scripted, that still doesn't mean it's not a roleplaying game.

I don't understand your narrow and myopic view of what constitutes a "real" roleplaying game.

Based on some of your descriptions of how you run your games, I can believe that they're lots of fun and good examples of in-depth world and character development, but that still doesn't mean that other styles of play, including CR, are any less "real".


Take care,

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Quote from: LouProsperi on February 14, 2022, 12:02:59 PM
Quote from: RPGPundit on February 09, 2022, 12:19:33 PM
Critical Role is not actually a roleplaying game or people actually playing a roleplaying game.

Of course it's people playing a roleplaying game. That's literally what it is. The style of play may be different from what you do in your games, but that doesn't mean it's not a roleplaying game.  Even if the newer seasons are scripted, that still doesn't mean it's not a roleplaying game.

I don't understand your narrow and myopic view of what constitutes a "real" roleplaying game.

Based on some of your descriptions of how you run your games, I can believe that they're lots of fun and good examples of in-depth world and character development, but that still doesn't mean that other styles of play, including CR, are any less "real".


Take care,

Lou Prosperi

  I think he is implying they may rehearse to a degree, and toss around ideas as to how to react to events that are going to come up in the game.  Being professional actors, and being interested in maximum impact/views/money I think they are really playing a game the same way a reality show is filming reality.   Now it could be they are doing the first time ever cold run every time on camera.   I do not think that is the case.

Mistwell

I can't speak to how critical role functions behind the scenes these days. But I can say with certainty it was not scripted in the beginning, and they were not rehearsing in the beginning.

FingerRod

Quote from: LouProsperi on February 14, 2022, 12:02:59 PM
Even if the newer seasons are scripted, that still doesn't mean it's not a roleplaying game.

What? How would a scripted show be a role-playing game?

As for CR, I only saw parts of their first campaign. I did not see evidence of scripted television.