The article mentions that the problem is that the new campaign setting seems like it doesn't matter and that the PCs are untouched by it. It even acknowledges that this happens in almost all TTFRPG settings. OK, I won't argue with that part. Then it goes into saying that this is harmful here because [insert stupid 'woe is them' Orientalism arguments] and I just clicked the X in the corner of the page. It's rare that I agree with SHARK on anything, but "Kotaku are a bunch of morons" gets a +1 from me.

Critical Role makes money and people watch it.

Kotaku has been sold twice cheap from what was left of Gawker to Univision to...someone else? and had their "journalists" (freelancey lifestyle blogger nepotism buddies) laid off waves several times since 2015 and are infamous for have a chubby person write absurd" X in this video game is on a continuum with raping me" articles. They are a shell of a shell of a shell of what they were with even Buzzfeed rapidly shedding capital and financial mass after an IPO they don't even get much credit as a survivor of market shrinkage & conglomeration alongside Polygon and such as those who made it through the cull.

This is equivalent in impact to a flea biting a rhinoceros on its horn.

I think the buried lied here is that Kotaku pines for the good old days when they could help cancel RK Rowling or various people at Sony but now they are at best spitting into the wind and at worst making noises as they roll down a hill into an open sewer manhole.

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Quote from: Fighterboy on February 09, 2022, 12:57:16 PM
What's Kotaku and why should we care about them?

Wasn't it that little mutant shit bag in Total Recall?

  No that was kuato.

I thought it was Quardo rendered via an Austrian accent sort of like GEDDA PAMP, GEDDO DUH CHAWPA, TOOMA, and may personal favorite NEEYIIGHEEEIGGH NAAAUGH.

As usual the majority of the SJWs on the site have daid nothing about the incident. Their silence speaks volumes.

I do think the whole "white people visiting Arabian theme park" is overdone at this point. What about all the stories of Arabian heroes going on adventures in the exotic lands of Hyperborea?

(I say this with tongue firmly in cheek.)

Quote from: SHARK on February 09, 2022, 02:43:19 PM
Greetings!

Geesus, the whining and absolute ridiculous mental gymnastics that Kotaku goes through in critiquing Critical Role. Responsibility to disavow the original Colonizers and explorers? God these people are fucking nuts. They are so drunk on their fucking Marxist ideology and victimhood that they can't even speak like a normal human being.

Edward Said? Fuck Edward Said and his fucking book. No one gives a fuck about his book except fucking Marxists.

Kotaku are a bunch of morons.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

I'm off the opinion that this wokeness Marxist shit will only end when good people who get confronted by woke assholes just start literally knocking their teeth down their throats in response. 

Quote from: HappyDaze on February 09, 2022, 02:57:35 PM
The article mentions that the problem is that the new campaign setting seems like it doesn't matter and that the PCs are untouched by it. It even acknowledges that this happens in almost all TTFRPG settings. OK, I won't argue with that part. Then it goes into saying that this is harmful here because [insert stupid 'woe is them' Orientalism arguments] and I just clicked the X in the corner of the page. It's rare that I agree with SHARK on anything, but "Kotaku are a bunch of morons" gets a +1 from me.

Greetings!

*Laughing* Cheers, HappyDaze!

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Quote from: SHARK on February 09, 2022, 02:43:19 PM
Greetings!

Geesus, the whining and absolute ridiculous mental gymnastics that Kotaku goes through in critiquing Critical Role. Responsibility to disavow the original Colonizers and explorers? God these people are fucking nuts. They are so drunk on their fucking Marxist ideology and victimhood that they can't even speak like a normal human being.

Edward Said? Fuck Edward Said and his fucking book. No one gives a fuck about his book except fucking Marxists.

Kotaku are a bunch of morons.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

I gotta ask you something: why do you keep conflating wokism with marxism? Here's the truth: Marxists hate wokism because it distracts from their class and class warfare issues. Actual marxists are not woke at all. Their stance on feminism ended at we're all equal and should all be oppressed equally. Their stances on race is we're all equal and should all be oppressed equally. Marxists don't talk about race and sex and transgender issues ANYTHING like woke people do. And for the wokists, they despise the marxist as well. NOTHING triggered the wokists more than Bernie Sanders' claim that solving for class inequality would inherently solve for racial inequalities. Wokists and Marxists are not the same and don't like each other. So why are you calling them one and the same? Kotaku isn't Marxist - they're wokist. They are ruthless capitalists - they just want the woke dollars and that's the capitalist niche they've carved out for themselves.

People calling this clickbait were correct - this whole thing is manufactured by a woke capitalist company trying to get more ad dollars by triggering people on all sides of the wokism debate to click on their article.

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Quote from: SHARK on February 09, 2022, 02:43:19 PM
Greetings!

Geesus, the whining and absolute ridiculous mental gymnastics that Kotaku goes through in critiquing Critical Role. Responsibility to disavow the original Colonizers and explorers? God these people are fucking nuts. They are so drunk on their fucking Marxist ideology and victimhood that they can't even speak like a normal human being.

Edward Said? Fuck Edward Said and his fucking book. No one gives a fuck about his book except fucking Marxists.

Kotaku are a bunch of morons.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

I gotta ask you something: why do you keep conflating wokism with marxism? Here's the truth: Marxists hate wokism because it distracts from their class and class warfare issues. Actual marxists are not woke at all. Their stance on feminism ended at we're all equal and should all be oppressed equally. Their stances on race is we're all equal and should all be oppressed equally. Marxists don't talk about race and sex and transgender issues ANYTHING like woke people do. And for the wokists, they despise the marxist as well. NOTHING triggered the wokists more than Bernie Sanders' claim that solving for class inequality would inherently solve for racial inequalities. Wokists and Marxists are not the same and don't like each other. So why are you calling them one and the same?

I happen to know a couple of Marxists from Europe who are woke AF.

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Quote from: Fighterboy on February 09, 2022, 05:37:58 PM
I have no idea where the woke brigade are on the political spectrum, but it ain't on the far left.

No idea? They are obviously on the left, no question. Even Bill Maher (a leftie) acknowledges that. For instance BLM (who nearly ruined comic-con when I was there by demanding everyone look out for microaggressions, a very woke thing) are Marxists. The wokest professor in my university department (who also wanted to teach us about microaggressions, and got pissed when almost nobody showed up) is a registered Democrat. So not all woke people are extreme leftists, but they are on the left to a T.

Quote from: Mistwell on February 09, 2022, 05:18:49 PMI gotta ask you something: why do you keep conflating wokism with marxism?

Its like the mcdonalds to a burger diner. One may be nicer on the exterior, but both are solidly collectivist, and in favor of societal destruction with just different focuses. Wokism is marxism with class replaced by race, but its goals are pretty much identical. All wokists posit that the racial rejection must also be a class rejection, except some of the class just must be exterminated/enslaved. Not at all different from wokism.

Otherwise many of the people from eastern europe, and its ex-soviet countries wouldn't be so afraid of the rise of wokism, and see its many, many, many, many similarities with communism.

Marxism at its core is insane nonsense. It has no real principles and all of its adherants that reach power either indulge in corruption or destructive urges or both. Or are just grifters. Thats something Wokism and marxism have in common.
The core of marxism/wokism is that the reality we live in is a lie perpetrated by the ruling class and so it must be utterly burned to the ground, and that in it of itself will cause the truth and justice of the "real world" to rise up.

Quote from: Mistwell on February 09, 2022, 05:18:49 PM
I gotta ask you something: why do you keep conflating wokism with marxism?

Wokism and its antecedents were always corporate-friendly Marxism. The CIA promoted Frankfurt School Marxism, and later French Postmodernism, because it was an effective tool against Communism and the USSR. The capitalists still oppose actual Marxism (not that this makes actual Marxism a good idea) because they fear class struggle and find Wokism useful to prevent cross-racial class consciousness.

Quote from: Mistwell on February 09, 2022, 05:18:49 PM
I gotta ask you something: why do you keep conflating wokism with marxism?

Its a mystery that we will never be able to solve.

It reminds me a bit of an interview I saw with Jordan Peterson:
-But these campus protestors, why do you keep calling them communists?
-Well, they were waving hammer and sickle flags
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