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Hobbits vs Halflings in OD&D

Started by Osman Gazi, December 14, 2022, 12:35:48 PM

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PulpHerb

Also no just find. Tolkien lawyers probably looked at the new proofs in the character section, saw "Halflings" and said it was okay.

S'mon

I'm sure no lawyers were involved.

It's not like TSR was ever sued over Hobbits to start with.
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Venka

The PDF version I have access to has this blurb, using "halflings", even though "hobbits" is used earlier in the document:

QuoteHalflings: Should any player wish to be one, he will be limited to the Fighting-Men
class as a halfling. Halflings cannot progress beyond the 4th level (Hero), but they will
have magic-resistance equal to dwarves (add four levels for saving throws), and they
will have deadly accuracy with missiles as detailed in CHAINMAIL.

I want to point out; this is by far the shortest racial blurb out of the three, and this is easily the harshest restrictions that any have.  The same document allows dwarves to go up to 6th level fighting-man, and has a pile of dwarven racial powers, and spends even more time on elves, who share the same 4th level fighting-man restriction, but can go up to 8th level magic-user (on the same character, the document notes). 

Hobbits definitely get the short end of the racial stick!  Right below the halfling part is a blurb encouraging play of anything, even a dragon, as long as it starts weak and gets stronger over time.