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Countdown to 5e

Started by 1989, May 13, 2014, 01:24:38 PM

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1989

May 13, 2014, 01:24:38 PM
When is the countdown to 5e going to start?

It's coming out this summer, right?

Where is the hype? Why I haven't I seen or heard anything?

Sacrosanct

#2
May 13, 2014, 01:32:12 PM
Stan Shin over at the G+ community compiled all the available information:

 
Culled from a variety of late-breaking leaks, here is the D&D Next release schedule (hat tip to Mike Hensley). The product will be called simply 'D&D'.

The release schedule:

D&D Starter Set, releasing July 15, 2014, list price $19.95

D&D Player's Handbook, releasing August 19, 2014, list price $49.95 (Note: they will have the PHB for sale if you attend GenCon, but then not widely available until Aug. 19 after GenCon)

D&D Dungeon Master's Guide, releasing November, 2014, $49.95

I've not seen any word on the Monster Manual.

Sources below:

"We have just received solicitation notices from our distributors for the D&D Next Starter Game, $19.99, with a street date of July 15, 2014."

Read more: http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?355106-Street-date-for-D-amp-D-Next-Starter-Game-is-July-15#ixzz31bY7fNTO


"That's the reason WOTC is running a Q&A and character creation workshop at GenCon. The PHB won't be available until Aug 19, which is the Tuesday after GenCon. However, copies will be for sale at GenCon itself a couple of days before GenCon. This will allow WOTC to sell the books directly to their most enthusiastic fans(thereby making more money since they don't have to go through distributors and retailers for these sales).

Since most people who get the book at the con won't have time to read it before attending games, they will have the character creation workshops to walk people through the process with plenty of copies of the PHB at the workshop. Heck, if they are smart....they might sell copies of the book during the workshop to avoid absurdly long lines at their booth."

Read more: http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?355106-Street-date-for-D-amp-D-Next-Starter-Game-is-July-15/page3#ixzz31bXOvKVO


"I've seen a report from a meeting last week that the PHB is August and the DMG is November. Both $49.99."

Read more: http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?355106-Street-date-for-D-amp-D-Next-Starter-Game-is-July-15/page3#ixzz31bXVDlQk


"WotC said the new edition would simply be Dungeons & Dragons, or D&D. No number, no Next. "

Read more: http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?355106-Street-date-for-D-amp-D-Next-Starter-Game-is-July-15/page4#ixzz31bXgxzqw


"D&D Starter Set, releasing July 15, 2014, list price $19.95

D&D Player's Handbook, releasing August 19, 2014, list price $49.95"

Read more: http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?353254-Initial-D-amp-D-Next-Releases-Showing-Up-on-Barnes-amp-Noble-Website#ixzz31bXzG2xk

D&D is not an "everyone gets a ribbon" game.  If you\'re stupid, your PC will die.  If you\'re an asshole, your PC will die (probably from the other PCs).  If you\'re unlucky, your PC may die.  Point?  PC\'s die.  Get over it and roll up a new one.

Exploderwizard

#3
May 13, 2014, 01:32:33 PM
So it seems like the ad copy in a box comes out July 15th and the game in late August.

Think I'm gonna wait a bit for reviews on the box before grabbing it. The box will tell all about the game. Has WOTC learned anything?
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Quote from: Old Geezer;724252At some point it seems like D&D is going to disappear up its own ass.

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Sacrosanct

#4
May 13, 2014, 01:39:57 PM
Quote from: Exploderwizard;749073So it seems like the ad copy in a box comes out July 15th and the game in late August.

Think I'm gonna wait a bit for reviews on the box before grabbing it. The box will tell all about the game. Has WOTC learned anything?

I know WoTC doesn't have the best track record, but I think it's a bit unfair at this point to call it an "ad copy in a box".  We haven't seen what's in it yet.  Since WotC seems to have learned something (based on the design of 5e), I hope they also learned something with starter sets.
D&D is not an "everyone gets a ribbon" game.  If you\'re stupid, your PC will die.  If you\'re an asshole, your PC will die (probably from the other PCs).  If you\'re unlucky, your PC may die.  Point?  PC\'s die.  Get over it and roll up a new one.

Exploderwizard

#5
May 13, 2014, 01:47:34 PM
Quote from: Sacrosanct;749075I know WoTC doesn't have the best track record, but I think it's a bit unfair at this point to call it an "ad copy in a box".  We haven't seen what's in it yet.  Since WotC seems to have learned something (based on the design of 5e), I hope they also learned something with starter sets.

I have never hoped that I was wrong about a product more than this one.
Quote from: JonWakeGamers, as a whole, are much like primitive cavemen when confronted with a new game. Rather than \'oh, neat, what\'s this do?\', the reaction is to decide if it\'s a sex hole, then hit it with a rock.

Quote from: Old Geezer;724252At some point it seems like D&D is going to disappear up its own ass.

Quote from: Kyle Aaron;766997In the randomness of the dice lies the seed for the great oak of creativity and fun. The great virtue of the dice is that they come without boxed text.

Sacrosanct

#6
May 13, 2014, 01:50:22 PM
Quote from: Exploderwizard;749078I have never hoped that I was wrong about a product more than this one.

Well, I have it on preorder at my FLGS.  I'll definitely post a detailed review about it.
D&D is not an "everyone gets a ribbon" game.  If you\'re stupid, your PC will die.  If you\'re an asshole, your PC will die (probably from the other PCs).  If you\'re unlucky, your PC may die.  Point?  PC\'s die.  Get over it and roll up a new one.

Panjumanju

#7
May 13, 2014, 01:54:54 PM
It could be a really awesome started box, like old Red Box. You never know. We'll have to wait and judge.

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YourSwordisMine

#8
May 13, 2014, 01:57:42 PM
As far as I am aware, WoTC has only ever released one "starter box set" that wasn't a throwaway crippleware product, and that was the one (of several) for 3.5e that actually had a small form factor softback PHB.

So the likelihood of the new one coming out in July for $19.99 is pretty damn slim...

Especially if they are having a "Character Creation Workshop" at Gencon... If it was the full game in a box, which will be out BEFORE Gencon; then such a "Workshop" wouldn't even be needed...

Yeah... That's learning from past mistakes that is...
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Monster Manuel

#9
May 13, 2014, 01:59:50 PM
I've hated on 5th Edtion based on the playtest, but at this point I'm going to wait and see. I'd love to be pleasantly surprised by a game that can be run at a rules-medium level with none of the 4e stuff I hated.

If they really are going back to the modular concept, I may like it after all.

As much as I like the concept of Pathfinder, it's lately been grating on me with its rules bloat. I'd much rather have the real thing, and have it be a game that I can play my way.
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Exploderwizard

#10
May 13, 2014, 02:06:53 PM
Quote from: YourSwordisMine;749087As far as I am aware, WoTC has only ever released one "starter box set" that wasn't a throwaway crippleware product, and that was the one (of several) for 3.5e that actually had a small form factor softback PHB.

So the likelihood of the new one coming out in July for $19.99 is pretty damn slim...

Especially if they are having a "Character Creation Workshop" at Gencon... If it was the full game in a box, which will be out BEFORE Gencon; then such a "Workshop" wouldn't even be needed...

Yeah... That's learning from past mistakes that is...

I wouldn't expect the full game in a box, just a functional re-playable game with character creation for PCs with a limited set of options.
Quote from: JonWakeGamers, as a whole, are much like primitive cavemen when confronted with a new game. Rather than \'oh, neat, what\'s this do?\', the reaction is to decide if it\'s a sex hole, then hit it with a rock.

Quote from: Old Geezer;724252At some point it seems like D&D is going to disappear up its own ass.

Quote from: Kyle Aaron;766997In the randomness of the dice lies the seed for the great oak of creativity and fun. The great virtue of the dice is that they come without boxed text.

jeff37923

#11
May 13, 2014, 02:10:33 PM
The benchmark for WotC is the Pathfinder Beginner's Box. If they do not do at least that, then they are already failing to the competition.
"Meh."

YourSwordisMine

#12
May 13, 2014, 02:12:10 PM
Quote from: Exploderwizard;749093I wouldn't expect the full game in a box, just a functional re-playable game with character creation for PCs with a limited set of options.

By full set of rules I mean enough to get you playing the game, with character creation rules for Levels 1, 2 or 3; with 3-4 classes and races. Most importantly is COMPLETELY COMPATABLE with the actual game when it comes out...

Unlike the 4e Redbox...
Quote from: ExploderwizardStarting out as fully formed awesome and riding the awesome train across a flat plane to awesome town just doesn\'t feel like D&D. :)

Quote from: ExploderwizardThe interwebs are like Tahiti - its a magical place.

thedungeondelver

#13
May 13, 2014, 02:12:15 PM
Quote from: Monster Manuel;749089If they really are going back to the modular concept, I may like it after all.

I wouldn't bet on that.

I've heard no mention of "modularity" since the 3rd playtest, and even back then there was no "modularity" just lip service paid to it.  The game has wavered back and forth falling further and further towards sops for 4vengers, and it looks like that's where it's going to be.  A sort of weird 2e/4e hybrid.

I want it to succeed, I might buy the starter set, but, in the overall...pass.
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Monster Manuel

#14
May 13, 2014, 02:22:38 PM
Quote from: thedungeondelver;749096I wouldn't bet on that.

I've heard no mention of "modularity" since the 3rd playtest, and even back then there was no "modularity" just lip service paid to it.  The game has wavered back and forth falling further and further towards sops for 4vengers, and it looks like that's where it's going to be.  A sort of weird 2e/4e hybrid.

I was told by someone in the closed playtest that the playtests didn't represent iterative versions of the game so much as concepts they were testing as modules. According to him it will be modular.
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