Core old school games

grubman · October 21, 2007, 08:35:29 PM

I guess I missunderstood the point of the thread, because people are just throwing out anything that came before 1990. I have a copy of Heroic Worlds if everyon wants a list of everything in the book.

dar · October 21, 2007, 08:41:27 PM

Actually I stopped when I was going to throw in C&S and T&T and Jorune. I stopped at what I thought should be added.

To me MA was the game I lusted after and only played Gamma World because it was a derivative.

Champions cause, well, cause.

GURPS cause I'm an addict.

Blackleaf · October 21, 2007, 08:48:13 PM

Where's the Marvel Superheroes love?

grubman · October 21, 2007, 08:51:58 PM

Quote from: StuartWhere's the Marvel Superheroes love?

comeon! OLD SCHOOL!

What the heck does FASERIP have to do with old school? Revolutionary color coded table, unified mechanic, streamlined rules, clearly writen instructions...need I go on?

grubman · October 21, 2007, 08:54:06 PM

Quote from: darGURPS cause I'm an addict.

Gurps is a refined version of an actual old school game, tFT...being refinded knocks it right off the old school list IMHO.

My new mission, to rip apart every game on this thread!

Just kidding

Blackleaf · October 21, 2007, 08:57:30 PM

Quote from: grubmanstreamlined rules, clearly writen instructions...need I go on?

That IS the old school...

:haw:

Koltar · October 21, 2007, 09:07:33 PM

Quote from: grubmanGurps is a refined version of an actual old school game, tFT...being refinded knocks it right off the old school list IMHO.

My new mission, to rip apart every game on this thread!

Just kidding

NOPE, TFT was a rough draft of a roleplaying game. GURPS is what Jackson got to do for an RPG when he is his own Boss.

Even 1st Edition GURPS is pretty cool compared to many RPGs being released today.

- Ed C.

Wil · October 21, 2007, 09:15:38 PM

I wonder if the criteria "it came in a boxed set" defines old school. Are there any "core" old school games (besides AD&D) that didn't come in a boxed set?

KrakaJak · October 21, 2007, 09:37:34 PM

I say....Palladium anything.

arminius · October 21, 2007, 09:55:58 PM

Quote from: WilI wonder if the criteria "it came in a boxed set" defines old school. Are there any "core" old school games (besides AD&D) that didn't come in a boxed set?

Neither Runequest nor TFT. Bits of TFT came in separate boxed sets, but the most roleplayingest version came just as three thin 8.5x11 books.

Ysgarth also was just books, no box, although I wouldn't call it "core". Same applies to High Fantasy.

Wil · October 21, 2007, 10:38:23 PM

Quote from: Elliot WilenNeither Runequest nor TFT. Bits of TFT came in separate boxed sets, but the most roleplayingest version came just as three thin 8.5x11 books.

Ysgarth also was just books, no box, although I wouldn't call it "core". Same applies to High Fantasy.

You mean like this for Runequest? Runequest may have had some non-boxed books (such as the original hardback) but it had plenty of boxed products. While I concede that TFT had no boxed set, there were plans for one and Melee and Wizard both came in pocket boxes originally. Boxed sets are very much "old school"

arminius · October 21, 2007, 11:12:46 PM

Yeah, I referred to the Melee and & Wizard boxed sets above.

Had no idea about the RQ boxed set; I bought my copy of RQ2 new as just the paperback manual.

With that I suppose rephrasing the criterion as "came in a boxed set, even if it also came as non-boxed books" is a pretty good first-pass.

Wil · October 21, 2007, 11:37:51 PM

See, I came at RPGs in the late '70s/early '80s from playing numerous pocket box games, as well as games like Panzer Blitz and Panzer Leader with my dad (as well as old SSI games such as Eastern Front). To me, boxed sets are pretty much the definition of old school and you'll find that even games that did not have their core books in boxed sets (such as AD&D) still heavily featured boxed sets for expansions.

arminius · October 21, 2007, 11:53:49 PM

Yep, I began with the same stuff, but somehow my RPG buying patterns didn't have such a clear pattern of boxes. Or I'm just forgetting.

Koltar · October 21, 2007, 11:55:58 PM

I STILL have the box from my GURPS 1st edition boxed set - I store cardboard heroes in it these days.

- Ed C.