Cool games versus uncool games

Koltar · September 02, 2007, 09:48:37 AM

Quote from: GrimGentThe game's about finding your place in a world that no longer seems to have a place for you, true. It's up to the individual players to decide how they go about it: that could mean brutally murdering the Fetch and trying to take its place, or leaving your old life alone and instead seeking a new one among the rest of the fae.

Gee, that sounds like an ongoing sub-plot in my ongoing supposedly boring GURPS:TRAVELLER game. And I didn't have to buy a World of Darkness book to do such a plot.

Got maybe THREE characters that could fit that description.

One is the ship's pilot. She is a guman brain in an android body. A body that resembles her old human one - because she may have had a "stalker" before she died in that explosion. She spent the early days of the campaign trying to decide just what she was or how she could fit in...if she could even think of herself as a human or a woman again. Now, she feels accepted by the crew and is in love with the ship's engineer.

This is still just the litttle old TRAVELLER universe tho.....

- Ed C.

signoftheserpent · September 02, 2007, 10:08:39 AM

Quote from: RezendevousExcept for, you know, all the people who said they were disgusted by the actual play in that thread.

People over here are quoting that thread very selectively.

er, what?

Where did i say no one else was criticising the game?

signoftheserpent · September 02, 2007, 10:09:34 AM

Quote from: GrimGentNone of that came from the book itself, though, which apparently only specifies what the mechanical consequences of sinning are, and that rape or murder are possible sins; but since that is also true of consensual adultery, you might as easily play a roguish Casanova hated by husbands at every port. In the thread over at RPGnet, even the people present during the actual game session mentioned being taken aback by her character's behaviour: as always, it's all about what the group brings to the game.

someone very disturbed it would seem.

Rezendevous · September 02, 2007, 11:06:29 AM

Quote from: signoftheserpentsomeone very disturbed it would seem.

On that, I agree with you. I wouldn't enjoy playing in a group like the one described in that AP thread, nor would I tolerate that sort of thing in any game that I ran.

Brantai · September 02, 2007, 12:51:42 PM

Quote from: KoltarGee, that sounds like an ongoing sub-plot in my ongoing supposedly boring GURPS:TRAVELLER game. And I didn't have to buy a World of Darkness book to do such a plot.

No one said you had to, shitbrick.

RPGPundit · September 02, 2007, 01:20:53 PM

Hmm, typical "woe-is-me no one understands me" goth pretentious emo crap vs. typical "look at how utterly amoral we can be, because we are the new elite" sophomoric pseudointellectual degenerate crap. What a dilemma.

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Koltar · September 02, 2007, 02:52:23 PM

Quote from: BrantaiNo one said you had to, shitbrick.

Well if you're going to use THAT nickname - Stifler's Mom was kind of Hot.

jeff37923 · September 02, 2007, 04:44:25 PM

Quote from: WarthurChangelings, conversely, are trying to get normal again. They've had this thing happen to them, they're inherently out of step with the world they were meant to be part of all along, and what they are inherently trying to do is become normal, ordinary people again.

Were I playing in a Changeling game, I'd have the thing that so victimized my player character be having that character actually playing any WoD game.

The Yann Waters · September 02, 2007, 04:56:57 PM

Quote from: jeff37923Were I playing in a Changeling game, I'd have the thing that so victimized my player character be having that character actually playing any WoD game.

That... has potential as a PC background, you know. Perhaps the Others snatched this character away only to use him for years (or dozens of years) as a pawn in some inscrutable game, wrapped up in illusions and masquerades so that he's spent much of his life in an otherworldly version of a neverending LARP. That would be bound to mess someone up pretty badly.

Warthur · September 02, 2007, 07:20:20 PM

Quote from: jeff37923Were I playing in a Changeling game, I'd have the thing that so victimized my player character be having that character actually playing any WoD game.

And then they have to deal with the consequences of the inevitable brain damage?

Brantai · September 03, 2007, 01:55:28 AM

Quote from: WarthurAnd then they have to deal with the consequences of the inevitable brain damage?

He didn't say there were making him play D&D

KrakaJak · September 03, 2007, 02:02:22 AM

Quote from: signoftheserpentSo over on that other site, there are two threads: one is a thread about the, IMO, rather fabulous new Changeling rpg. The other is about some indie game called 'Poison'd', which is about realistic pirates (ie mature themes, readers). Sounds reasonable.

The first thread however features plenty of people who are somewhat uncomfortable at Changeling's implicit victim nature. People are auncomfortable with that as a role an issues of being a rape victim are mentioned (that's not the game i'm reading, but ymmv).

The second features plaudits for a game where eopel commit pretty disgusting acts. Actual play stuff being reported is pretty grim indeed.

No on the face of it that's fine and I don't have a problem with that per se. My point is that what's cool for poison'd isn't cool, despite being much worse, for Changeling. One game you can commit vile acts because it's a cool indie game, the other gets it's fair share of the lash.

Hmmm.

I'm getting to this thread a little late...but I'll reply with what I couldn't say over there:

There is a guy on rpg.net who has a player that will NOT play Changeling because the PC's have been universally been abused...in his opinion, from reading the book. This player has also convinced the Happless GMs other players not to play too, forcing said GM to find another group.

The GM argued they didn't HAVE to play abused characters if they didn't want to. His "player" argued back that "they wouldn't be playing the game right" if they didn't.

His (thank god) former player is a Pantywaist carebear shithead. Pulling this bullshit and wrecking his game before it started.

Drew · September 03, 2007, 02:07:09 AM

Quote from: KrakaJakHis (thank god) former player is a Pantywaist carebear shithead. Pulling this bullshit and wrecking his game before it started.

Heh. He ought to be chained to the table and forced to play the A1-4 modules for AD&D.

"OMG! I awake as a prisoner in the Slave Lords dungeons, chained to the walls and stripped of weapons and armour! Abuse! Abuse! Deprotagonization etc.!"