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Consumers Guide to TTRPGs

Started by Ocule, November 19, 2022, 01:45:23 PM

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D-ko

#75
March 25, 2025, 12:14:52 AM
Quote from: erc1971 on January 20, 2025, 09:31:39 AM
Quote from: Teodrik on January 20, 2025, 04:52:46 AMThis list seems way far too lenient I think. For example I just looked in the Savage Worlds SWADE edition and it's woke as fuck. They almost completely removed any white dudes from illustrations. Mostly (manly/ugly) white women and PoC. Comparing with the older editions is jarring. No fucking way a company that does that kind of DEI crap should be considered green.

Pinnacle is Yellow.

And it is sad to see them slowly slide down this route, as Savage Worlds is my go to RPG.  Luckily, the game was designed to make it easy for people to make their own stuff for it, so until they get their act together I can do just that.

I met the lady who runs their website like a decade back. She started a town newspaper strictly for sharing extreme progressive views in a very conservative part of Washington State. Doesn't surprise me at all. Original Savage Worlds is the best Savage Worlds.
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erc1971

#76
March 27, 2025, 04:52:21 PM
Quote from: D-ko on March 25, 2025, 12:14:52 AM
Quote from: erc1971 on January 20, 2025, 09:31:39 AM
Quote from: Teodrik on January 20, 2025, 04:52:46 AMThis list seems way far too lenient I think. For example I just looked in the Savage Worlds SWADE edition and it's woke as fuck. They almost completely removed any white dudes from illustrations. Mostly (manly/ugly) white women and PoC. Comparing with the older editions is jarring. No fucking way a company that does that kind of DEI crap should be considered green.

Pinnacle is Yellow.

And it is sad to see them slowly slide down this route, as Savage Worlds is my go to RPG.  Luckily, the game was designed to make it easy for people to make their own stuff for it, so until they get their act together I can do just that.

I met the lady who runs their website like a decade back. She started a town newspaper strictly for sharing extreme progressive views in a very conservative part of Washington State. Doesn't surprise me at all. Original Savage Worlds is the best Savage Worlds.

What is weird is that there are some people who say Pinnacle has some very Conservative people at it.  While some of their actions can be seen as pandering to the woke in order to avoid the headache, they have refused to work with people who asked them to stop with the woke stuff (the cover art to one of the Savage Rifts book is an example of this). 

This is all sad because Savage Worlds is my go to system.  I wrote them a polite letter saying I cannot continue to support their company, but since I have not seen them blatantly attack customers I would be willing to return if their products returned to being non political.

D-ko

#77
March 27, 2025, 07:18:18 PM
Quote from: erc1971 on March 27, 2025, 04:52:21 PM
Quote from: D-ko on March 25, 2025, 12:14:52 AM
Quote from: erc1971 on January 20, 2025, 09:31:39 AM
Quote from: Teodrik on January 20, 2025, 04:52:46 AMThis list seems way far too lenient I think. For example I just looked in the Savage Worlds SWADE edition and it's woke as fuck. They almost completely removed any white dudes from illustrations. Mostly (manly/ugly) white women and PoC. Comparing with the older editions is jarring. No fucking way a company that does that kind of DEI crap should be considered green.

Pinnacle is Yellow.

And it is sad to see them slowly slide down this route, as Savage Worlds is my go to RPG.  Luckily, the game was designed to make it easy for people to make their own stuff for it, so until they get their act together I can do just that.

I met the lady who runs their website like a decade back. She started a town newspaper strictly for sharing extreme progressive views in a very conservative part of Washington State. Doesn't surprise me at all. Original Savage Worlds is the best Savage Worlds.

What is weird is that there are some people who say Pinnacle has some very Conservative people at it.  While some of their actions can be seen as pandering to the woke in order to avoid the headache, they have refused to work with people who asked them to stop with the woke stuff (the cover art to one of the Savage Rifts book is an example of this). 

This is all sad because Savage Worlds is my go to system.  I wrote them a polite letter saying I cannot continue to support their company, but since I have not seen them blatantly attack customers I would be willing to return if their products returned to being non political.

To be fair, I have no idea how much they actually know about the people they contract/hire and diversity funding was at full-swing this last decade. She was honestly a nice lady but it shocked me what she was up to sorta behind the scenes. Around that time in my life I felt like I was running from organized Abrahamic religions because they were too conservative, from Unitarian churches because they were too progressive, and even the local game shops and recovery from religion groups had ideologies they wanted to push. I just wanted to be with a group of people who didn't care about politics. Still searching a decade later. 
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Gagarth

#78
April 03, 2025, 09:41:42 AM Last Edit: April 04, 2025, 03:14:52 AM by Gagarth
More wokery from Chaosium in the Gaslight Keeper's Book.  No doubt that their fuckwit political commissar Lynne Hardy had a lot of input in this.

QuoteWithin the Cthulhu by Gaslight setting are various aspects that some Keepers and players may find distressing, most notably violence against children, societal injustice and prejudice, societal attitudes
to mental health, and colonialism, as well as horrors both historically real and imagined. Players should
consider and discuss such matters with their Keeper and the group before play begins, enabling the Keeper to adjust their presentation of the darker side of the Victorian era to ensure everyone's comfort levels. Adjusting aspects problematical for your play group is easy to do, whether by toning such aspects  , and understanding where to cut or to draw a veil and fade to black is not only a useful skill for the Keeper to employ, but also everyone's responsibility to ensure nothing crosses their own lines. Sensitivity in the portrayal of horror, mental and physical injury, and the darker aspects of the era should be a consideration for both players and the Keeper. This is a game, and should be enjoyable and fun for everyone to play.


QuoteBritain's imperialism, and the exploration of foreign lands have both scenario potential and uncomfortable implications. Note that this is, rightly, a contentious and sensitive area to explore in roleplaying and may lead to strong emotional reactions in your player-group. If you are setting a scenario in a colony, do historical and cultural research thoroughly, taking note of the viewpoint of the colonized as well as that of the colonizers.

QuotePlease be cautious when deploying cults or monsters with overseas cultural origins in your scenarios, though they have featured heavily in past publications, and do still have their place in Call of Cthulhu. If you are not careful, repetition of the motif can inadvertently build up a picture that anyone not British and white is likely to be evil, mad, or dangerous, and that the "innocent English" are besieged by foreign wickedness. Even Dracula has a subtext of "evil foreigners coming over here to steal our women"—one, incidentally, that would have been quite apparent to Victorian readers.







'Don't join us. Work hard, get good degrees, join the Establishment and serve our cause from within.' Harry Pollitt - Communist Party GB

"Don't worry about the election, Trump's not gonna win. I made f*cking sure of that!" Eric Coomer -  Dominion Voting Systems Officer of Strategy and Security

Eirikrautha

#79
April 04, 2025, 11:27:02 PM
QuoteEven Dracula has a subtext of "evil foreigners coming over here to steal our women"—one, incidentally, that would have been quite apparent to Victorian readers.

The sheer audacity of someone at Chaosium to write that post-Rotherham is breathtaking...
"Testosterone levels vary widely among women, just like other secondary sex characteristics like breast size or body hair. If you eliminate anyone with elevated testosterone, it's like eliminating athletes because their boobs aren't big enough or because they're too hairy." -- jhkim

Aerlanger

#80
April 07, 2025, 04:57:24 PM
Quote from: cavalier973 on December 08, 2024, 10:22:29 PMI haven't seen Mythmere Games on any of the lists. They apparently have taken over publishing Swords & Wizardry from Frog God Games.

I truly wanted to know any information about current Mythmere Games. I saw a Pride Logo on their Facebook profile posted in 2023. Really sad to see it.

Krazz

#81
April 09, 2025, 03:26:59 PM
Quote from: Eirikrautha on April 04, 2025, 11:27:02 PM
QuoteEven Dracula has a subtext of "evil foreigners coming over here to steal our women"—one, incidentally, that would have been quite apparent to Victorian readers.

The sheer audacity of someone at Chaosium to write that post-Rotherham is breathtaking...

Facts don't matter as much as their feelings. I believe it's now 41 towns where gangs have been convicted; heaven knows how many where the authorities still turn a blind eye.

And if they'd bothered to read Dracula, they'd know that two of the small band of heroes are foreigners, including Van Helsing, who's the leader of the good guys and saves a British woman's life.
"The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing;
Rush in and die, dogs—I was a man before I was a king."

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