Consumers Guide to TTRPGs

D-ko · March 25, 2025, 12:14:52 AM

Quote from: erc1971 on January 20, 2025, 09:31:39 AM
Quote from: Teodrik on January 20, 2025, 04:52:46 AMThis list seems way far too lenient I think. For example I just looked in the Savage Worlds SWADE edition and it's woke as fuck. They almost completely removed any white dudes from illustrations. Mostly (manly/ugly) white women and PoC. Comparing with the older editions is jarring. No fucking way a company that does that kind of DEI crap should be considered green.

Pinnacle is Yellow.

And it is sad to see them slowly slide down this route, as Savage Worlds is my go to RPG. Luckily, the game was designed to make it easy for people to make their own stuff for it, so until they get their act together I can do just that.

I met the lady who runs their website like a decade back. She started a town newspaper strictly for sharing extreme progressive views in a very conservative part of Washington State. Doesn't surprise me at all. Original Savage Worlds is the best Savage Worlds.

erc1971 · March 27, 2025, 04:52:21 PM

Quote from: D-ko on March 25, 2025, 12:14:52 AM
Quote from: erc1971 on January 20, 2025, 09:31:39 AM
Quote from: Teodrik on January 20, 2025, 04:52:46 AMThis list seems way far too lenient I think. For example I just looked in the Savage Worlds SWADE edition and it's woke as fuck. They almost completely removed any white dudes from illustrations. Mostly (manly/ugly) white women and PoC. Comparing with the older editions is jarring. No fucking way a company that does that kind of DEI crap should be considered green.

Pinnacle is Yellow.

And it is sad to see them slowly slide down this route, as Savage Worlds is my go to RPG. Luckily, the game was designed to make it easy for people to make their own stuff for it, so until they get their act together I can do just that.

I met the lady who runs their website like a decade back. She started a town newspaper strictly for sharing extreme progressive views in a very conservative part of Washington State. Doesn't surprise me at all. Original Savage Worlds is the best Savage Worlds.

What is weird is that there are some people who say Pinnacle has some very Conservative people at it. While some of their actions can be seen as pandering to the woke in order to avoid the headache, they have refused to work with people who asked them to stop with the woke stuff (the cover art to one of the Savage Rifts book is an example of this).

This is all sad because Savage Worlds is my go to system. I wrote them a polite letter saying I cannot continue to support their company, but since I have not seen them blatantly attack customers I would be willing to return if their products returned to being non political.

D-ko · March 27, 2025, 07:18:18 PM

Quote from: erc1971 on March 27, 2025, 04:52:21 PM
Quote from: D-ko on March 25, 2025, 12:14:52 AM
Quote from: erc1971 on January 20, 2025, 09:31:39 AM
Quote from: Teodrik on January 20, 2025, 04:52:46 AMThis list seems way far too lenient I think. For example I just looked in the Savage Worlds SWADE edition and it's woke as fuck. They almost completely removed any white dudes from illustrations. Mostly (manly/ugly) white women and PoC. Comparing with the older editions is jarring. No fucking way a company that does that kind of DEI crap should be considered green.

Pinnacle is Yellow.

And it is sad to see them slowly slide down this route, as Savage Worlds is my go to RPG. Luckily, the game was designed to make it easy for people to make their own stuff for it, so until they get their act together I can do just that.

I met the lady who runs their website like a decade back. She started a town newspaper strictly for sharing extreme progressive views in a very conservative part of Washington State. Doesn't surprise me at all. Original Savage Worlds is the best Savage Worlds.

What is weird is that there are some people who say Pinnacle has some very Conservative people at it. While some of their actions can be seen as pandering to the woke in order to avoid the headache, they have refused to work with people who asked them to stop with the woke stuff (the cover art to one of the Savage Rifts book is an example of this).

This is all sad because Savage Worlds is my go to system. I wrote them a polite letter saying I cannot continue to support their company, but since I have not seen them blatantly attack customers I would be willing to return if their products returned to being non political.

To be fair, I have no idea how much they actually know about the people they contract/hire and diversity funding was at full-swing this last decade. She was honestly a nice lady but it shocked me what she was up to sorta behind the scenes. Around that time in my life I felt like I was running from organized Abrahamic religions because they were too conservative, from Unitarian churches because they were too progressive, and even the local game shops and recovery from religion groups had ideologies they wanted to push. I just wanted to be with a group of people who didn't care about politics. Still searching a decade later.