Quote from: RPGPundit;610262Yeah I have to admit that I'm more inclined to the level of things as its done in ICONS.  Not sure I'd have much use for a game that was exclusively street-level.

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But a game which specifically addresses this level of superhero comics is a worthy effort.  Using more conventional superhero games might not work as well for street level campaigns because more mainstream supers games have different physics and genre assumptions.

Quote from: RPGPundit;610692Batman is often street-level when he's being just Batman in gotham with the bat-clan.  As soon as he hangs around with the Justice League, he becomes something else.

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Just as Superman is frequently depicted as nigh-invulnerable in his solo titles, but in the Justice League (especially the animated series) he gets beaten up on a 50-50 basis.

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Quote from: James Gillen;610791Just as Superman is frequently depicted as nigh-invulnerable in his solo titles, but in the Justice League (especially the animated series) he gets beaten up on a 50-50 basis.

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People always suck at writing Superman, to be fair he is NIGH-invulnerable to most Earthly scale things, but they often forget that when writing things (and the fact that of course there are Unearthly things which CAN be a threat easily.)

The Byrne 80s reboot dragged Superman out of the cosmos 'asteroid juggling' adventures he used to have and ditched much of the silliness that had taken over Supermans' stories. Shame it didn't last, though whilst I like Byrnes art I will concede that all his characters have square jaws and lines for mouths (even the women) and mostly look the same with a different wig on. Plus he treats the women in comics shabbily (at best) if I recall. He did a great job with the Man of Steel mini series and reboot though.

By depowering Superman he could (and did) get knocked about by military grade weaponry and it brought him nearer the tops of buildings, if not quite down to street level.

With regards the grim/gritty/iron age game I find Supers games are much more interesting when you have a range of adventures available. Most of the Justice League and Avengers aren't interested in Street Level crime - it's just not worth their effort. Can you imagine Thor or Iron Man chasing a purse snatcher? Maybe in the early (60s) days, but busting drug dealers, rescuing kidnapped people and the like aren't the things that make them get out of bed in the morning, alien invasions are.

Anyway, I backed it, because I like Supers games, but it's got a tough job on to make the target over the xmas period. People have other things on their mind, usually...

Quote from: Kaiu Keiichi;610717Happy to be of service!

Stardust the Super Wizard vs The 5th Column.

Oh yeah, I'd seen that one before. Needless to say, that's not one Golden Age character appearing in my campaign.

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Quote from: Kaiu Keiichi;610718But a game which specifically addresses this level of superhero comics is a worthy effort.  Using more conventional superhero games might not work as well for street level campaigns because more mainstream supers games have different physics and genre assumptions.

I agree that a game specifically designed to do "unpowered mystery men plus very-low power level supers" is potentially a useful endeavour.

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Quote from: Kaiu Keiichi;610718But a game which specifically addresses this level of superhero comics is a worthy effort.  Using more conventional superhero games might not work as well for street level campaigns because more mainstream supers games have different physics and genre assumptions.

That's the reason I wrote it, chief.  While you can run an Iron Age game in any number of other supers games, the investigative mechanics, the focus on no-powered and low-powered heroes, and the setting elements won't be present.  

It's like hammering in a nail with the side of a wrench.  Yes, you can do it.  Yes you can adjust your setting and your default character-building and everything that goes with it....but why not just use the tool that's meant for the job?

The holiday season has slowed us up, certainly, but it was a concern that we went into with our eyes open.  We've watched successes in this time-frame--FATE Core, anyone?--but I'm really hoping we get a solid post-Christmas surge to put us over our goal.

Quote from: RPGPundit;610992Oh yeah, I'd seen that one before. Needless to say, that's not one Golden Age character appearing in my campaign.

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GM: "The Eviscerator sends his entire battalion of cyberzombie soldiers to attack the city."
Player: "I turn all of them into marmosets."

I don't think most GMs would allow that either.

JG

Yeah, but its a really interesting example of how they were still trying to figure it all out back then, this whole concept of the comic-book superhero.

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Quote from: CRKrueger;609857Pics or it didn't happen.

Well, brother--you asked for pics, and I did you one better.

Check out our latest video update and make sure you stay till the end.  

She also does Huntress and Speedy (Mia Dearden), for the record.


More seriously, though, we have one more week to go, guys, and it's going to be a sprint to the finish.  If you're interested, if you'd like to donate, we need you now more than ever.  
Don't forget that you can also 'claim bounty' on your friends.  Convince one person to pledge, and you get a free set of Hero Pool Tokens.  Convince 3 (now reduced from five!) to donate, and I bump your entire reward tier by one, with no additional cost to you!  

Thanks again, and have a great holiday!

You're a good sport, you got yourself a backer.   Happy Holidays.

That's putting your money where your mouth is!

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Quote from: RPGPundit;611703That's putting your money where your mouth is!

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Hey, she offered!  Who am I to turn down some shameless marketing?

Quote from: APKlosky;611735Hey, she offered!  Who am I to turn down some shameless marketing?

Indeed! That's capitalism in action!

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Despite some reservations I have with the game (ie high powered heroes are only npcs), I decided to pledge anyway. Sadly, looks like this isn't going to make its funding, though I hope to be proven wrong