Quote from: Darrin Kelley;1043007That's the thing. He was never a legitimate SJW. He simply used it as a blind to lure in victims and give them a false sense of security.

Are any of them?  There's always an angle, always a con and a payoff to to what they do.

Quote from: Warboss Squee;1043012Are any of them?  There's always an angle, always a con and a payoff to to what they do.

Yes there are. There are true believers in any movement. People who follow the cause out of legitimate belief. Rather than ulterior motives.

Quote from: Darrin Kelley;1043016Yes there are. There are true believers in any movement. People who follow the cause out of legitimate belief. Rather than ulterior motives.

Those are few and far between, and are among the most easily duped.  'SJW' is a political movement designed to lie and deceive.

Quote from: Christopher Brady;1043020Those are few and far between, and are among the most easily duped.  'SJW' is a political movement designed to lie and deceive.

The same thing can be said about those who vote for Reich Wing Republicans.

But I am not here to condemn true believers. Only the frauds who prey upon them and everybody else.

Fannon has always been a vicious predatory fraud. Everything I am morally opposed to.

My problem with Fannon started over a book called The Mutant File. It was supposed to be the full treatment of Mutants and their big enemy Genocide for the Champions 4th edition game line.

It had the misfortune to come out immediately after the greatest Champions organization book of all time. Scott Bennie's Viper. Which set the standard for organization books at a truly incredible level of quality.

The Mutant File wasn't at all in the same league. Calling it a mediocre effort was being charitible. And it was given to the writer in question as an afterthought. Customers were begging for a Genocide sourcebook. And Hero Games wanted one finished and delivered as fast as possible. So they gave it to an untested writer. Without consulting with the many successful writers they had at the age.

The truth came out in a real life meeting with Fannon. Who said he just took the project for a quick publishing credit. And that he really didn't like the subject of the book to begin with. And so he didn't even put a half effort into it. He crapped it out and expected the customers just to suck on it and not talk back.

The contents of the book were a very thin riff on the Hellfire Club and the Reavers from Marvel. There was not one ounce of originality put into the book. And the finished product truly bordered on plageurism. It just plain wasn't up to the quality fans of Champions had expected in the game line they supported. And I very passionately told him so.

For the Minuteman robots. The Champions take on the Sentinels. He made them so absurdly overpowered  that nobody could actually use them in any meaningful way. The writeup was so much that it coudn't be pared down at all to make it actually useable in the game's default power level.  So the players who wanted to include them in their games had to rewrite them from scratch to be able to use them at all. It was a big 'screw you' to the fans who had been waiting three editions to finally have beyond just a one page take on an organization that first appeared in the very first Enemies book.

After its publication and my scathing review of it. Every popular Champions writer that made a name for themselves creating quality products came out and flat out said, that if any of them would have been offered the book, they would have done it and made it much better than the piece of mediocrity that Fannon shat out.

It also led to a project I invested a lot of years into. What was originally going to be my version of Genocide. Something I wanted to create with a lot of horror elements. Including influences drawn from my teenage and childhood exposure to dangerous cults. It was intended to be a no-holds barred look into the inner workings of that particular type of evil. What it did to its victims and what it did to its followers. And what it would do to the world if it weren't stopped.

Years later. The project morphed into something new. It combined with another organization I started working on since the early days of my association with Champions. Their concepts complimented each other. So it was a natural fit to combine them. They became an organization I called Absolution.

Originally Absolution was going to be in my graphic novels. However, the writing tone didn't fit with the heavy Pulp asthetic those books turned out having. So it ended up on the cutting room floor.

I've decided that someday, Absolution will become its own sourcebook for a variety of superhero RPGs. It would be a pity to waste it after all the work I put into it.

Ultimately my anger at the whole situation fed my spark of creativity.

Quote from: Darrin Kelley;1043028The same thing can be said about those who vote for Reich Wing Republicans.

But I am not here to condemn true believers. Only the frauds who prey upon them and everybody else.

Fannon has always been a vicious predatory fraud. Everything I am morally opposed to.

Reich Wing Republicans?

Alright...I'm curious. Mind unpacking that one for me?

Quote from: Warboss Squee;1043039Reich Wing Republicans?

Alright...I'm curious. Mind unpacking that one for me?

Another term for the Neo-Nazis that conceal themselves in the Republican Party. And who push the very same agenda and policies of the original Nazis.

I know they exist because that's what some of my biological relatives are. They hold up Hitler as a hero. And they believe the disabled should be exterminated outright.

Quote from: Warboss Squee;1043039Reich Wing Republicans?

Alright...I'm curious. Mind unpacking that one for me?

Please don't take things off topic, it makes Pundit angry.

It sounds like SPF was a douchebag who got caught being douchey. Not surprising considering how many SJWs seem to be creepy predators.

HOWEVER...even total scumbags have due process and shouldn't be tried in the court of public opinion.

It's a corollary of why we must protect the worst speech of the jackasses. We also must stand against trial by internet for assholes.

Its quite possible SPF is everything he's accused of (and more), but without evidence (which does include declarations by witnesses under penalty of perjury under cross examination) then its just hearsay.

Over the years, I have been an acquaintance to several victims of hearsay (both online and the old school version called gossip) and what I've learned is people are complicated, imperfect and witnesses are rarely reliable or unbiased, and their memories of events are remarkably unreliable.

TL;DR = humans suck.

Quote from: jhkim;1042928In most cases, posting people's real names is effectively the same as posting their contact info.

Which makes Farcebook, LinkedIn and Twitter so extremely weird. People don't understand how easily they can be tracked online & offline. It astounds me how much personal information people scatter about online.

However, those hiding in the shadows making moves to destroy someone's reputation shouldn't expect their foe to remain silent.

Quote from: jhkim;1042928What would you call it if I were to post your real name?

A poor decision?

Quote from: jhkim;1042968I did say most cases. For example, I have a stunningly non-unique real name - John Kim. There are literally thousands of John Kims. I found out yesterday that there were two in my stepson's middle school class.

But for most people, the combination of their name and a few suppositions will likely get you enough for a public records check.

I think I've known three guys named John Kim, but one might have been Jonathon.

Quote from: Spinachcat;1043054Which makes Farcebook, LinkedIn and Twitter so extremely weird. People don't understand how easily they can be tracked online & offline. It astounds me how much personal information people scatter about online.

Or just be good to people. If you're just good to people you really have nothing to fear from people knowing your name and address and telephone number. I grew up in an era where everyone had all of this information freely available in the phone book...and nobody had issues with it. To me, I find it weird just how much privacy has become a focus for recent generations, to the point where the thought of attaching their real name to their real opinions is somehow considered a bad thing.

Quote from: Mistwell;1043081If you're just good to people you really have nothing to fear from people knowing your name and address and telephone number.

Being "good to people" is meaningless.

If you're "good", but some asshats want to hurt you because of your "good" opinions, the internet has made it easy to reach out and fuck with someone. In the "old days", there wasn't a worldwide instant opinion shouting platforms and phone books rarely covered more than a few dozen square miles so (a) few people would ever know the opinions of non-famous people, and (b) tracking down non-famous people who weren't local required a tremendous level of work (aka, often the job of private investigators).

In the "old days", the court of public opinion was reserved for local gossip circles of cackling hens and partisan newspapers shitting on their opposing side. Today, whether or not SPF did anything doesn't matter. He's been convicted of whatever people want to claim, exaggerate, insinuate or make up and he's got little recourse but have his career destroyed.

But maybe it's all true. Yet even if SPF is the Worst Hitler Evar, the court of public opinion isn't justified.

And it's not just SPF, he's just the enemy du jour. This bullshit can happen to "good" people too, because the court of public opinion doesn't rule on evidence, just hearsay.

I am still confounded that anyone thinks it is OK to publicly accuse people while remaining anonymous.

Quote from: Ras Algethi;1043094I am still confounded that anyone thinks it is OK to publicly accuse people while remaining anonymous.

It's the accusations that matter to these kinds of people. Who it comes from is entirely unimportant.

Which will bite them in the ass, as so many of these things tend to.

Quote from: Warboss Squee;1043105It's the accusations that matter to these kinds of people. Who it comes from is entirely unimportant.

Which will bite them in the ass, as so many of these things tend to.

It just seems to be a way to effectively prevent someone from defending themselves in the public sphere, where they were accused.