Sooner or later, one of those newer "fans" will attack the product because the word "Chivalry" is misogynist. There will be a rabid round of discussion about what the new name should be. Make sure your popcorn supply is topped off.

Do we really need three simultaneous threads complaining about the people who make Chivalry & Sorcery?

Quote from: Bren;1118904Do we really need three simultaneous threads complaining about the people who make Chivalry & Sorcery?

What is the appropriate number of threads?

Looking at the dates it's just that somebody is bumping old threads.

Quote from: David Johansen;1118911Looking at the dates it's just that somebody is bumping old threads.

Then why are people creating new threads?  Since the OP complaint is about 'aggressively and repetitively pushing an argument' it seems that this board could set an example by putting everything in the same place.  

Quote from: Iron Cross;1118849They have also further stated the "White Supremists" are big fans and admirers of medieval genre.  Anyone who questions anything about this narrative or objects to its spoon feeding on their platform is arbitrarily censored by way of accusations and ejected.

Why is 'white supremacist' in quotes (other than the incorrect spelling)?  The term has a definition and everything.

QuoteWhite supremacy or white supremacism is the racist belief that white people are superior to people of other races and therefore should be dominant over them.

There are organizations that espouse this belief and proudly declare that they are, in fact, white supremacists.  

Not everybody who likes medieval history is a white supremacist, but I can guarantee you that you find more white supremacists liking medieval European history than medieval Islamic history.  There's a certain...cachet...in an argument that Europeans aren't just superior now, but have ALWAYS been superior.  Anyone who is a white supremacist has to defend the claim that integration of different societies has made us worse off than we were. Since the medieval period was one of very little diversity, they want to hold it up as an example of 'superior culture'.  

I am a student of history, and I find such claims absurd.  Setting aside that the medieval period covers roughly a full millennium and that China was more technologically sophisticated in just about every metric you want to use during that period, many white supremacist groups have to reconcile the fact that the Catholic church was dominant during the time and they don't actually like Catholics.  But surely you can see how the image of a Christian crusader crushing hordes of infidels as they capture the Holy Land would appeal to a white supremacist?  

Of course, I'm not the only one who noticed.  It's not hard to find documentation about both why white supremacists like medieval iconography and how badly they understand it.  

I mean, they even insist on calling the Battle flag of Virginia used during the Civil War the 'Confederate Flag'.  That's like calling the flag of Michigan the 'American Flag'.  It's an American flag, but not the American Flag.  

I mean, I guess not using symbols accurately isn't the worst thing that white supremacists do, but can't all agree that it is a bad thing?

Quote from: Iron Cross;1118849I have seen that Britania Games is aggressively and repetitively preaching and pushing an argument of Portland Starbucks social diversity in the European medieval world.  Though there is nothing wrong with that narrative in itself, it's the aggressiveness and repetitive in your face intolerance with which it is done on their social platform.

Does the 5e game itself also contain much of this preaching? I was considering picking it up for research value but I am largely disinclined these days to reward that kind of advocacy, or to slog through it.

Quote from: deadDMwalking;1118921Then why are people creating new threads?  Since the OP complaint is about 'aggressively and repetitively pushing an argument' it seems that this board could set an example by putting everything in the same place.  

I'm pretty sure it started with the one new thread and the other threads were subsequently bumped.  But yes, someone is beating their drum loudly.

Quote from: deadDMwalking;1118921Why is 'white supremacist' in quotes (other than the incorrect spelling)?  The term has a definition and everything.

These are known as scare quotes   : quotation marks used to express especially skepticism or derision concerning the use of the enclosed word or phrase

To be fair the term gets thrown around almost as loosely as Nazi these days.

Quote from: David Johansen;1118934To be fair the term gets thrown around almost as loosely as Nazi these days.

Pretty much every term has been thrown around and overused to the Nth degree that they lose real meaning and start becoming jokes. And not funny jokes either.

Meanwhile these same sociopathic justice warriors are dredging up old words that had lost their power to harm and are diligently re-empowering them. Thank you ever so much you lunatics.

Quote from: Omega;1118935Pretty much every term has been thrown around and overused to the Nth degree that they lose real meaning and start becoming jokes. And not funny jokes either.

Meanwhile these same sociopathic justice warriors are dredging up old words that had lost their power to harm and are diligently re-empowering them. Thank you ever so much you lunatics.

Greetings!

You know, the Liberals and SJW's like to invent new words or definitions. It is boggling, and also nefarious, how they proceed to create drama and some manufactured moral crisis, or a social crises, that then of course mushrooms into a huge social debate and conflict--and then, low and behold, the SJW clowns then announce that *They* have the solution to the tragic problem confronting us; naturally, this supposed "solution" typically involves more slander, hate and demonization of someone, usually white, Christian, conservatives for one alleged sin or another; and of course subsequent formations of committees and special counsels, an appropriation of huge amounts of funding; and a barrage of new laws and regulations gathering more power to said committee or whatever agency of the federal government, and further restricting the freedom of American citizens and a corresponding increased criminalization and mechanism for social, legal, and economic disenfranchisement.

There's a particular term used for this sophisticated kind of "crisis manufacturing" and subsequent strengthening of government power, and further restriction of liberty and freedom. I forgot at the moment what it is, but it is a definite term and a policy or strategy that the globalists and the Liberals really love employing to advance their agenda. Conservatives, relatively speaking, have been hammered by this particular tactic in the culture war, and have lost battle after battle from it, and only in recent times with the internet and alternative media, conservative inroads into internet media, have even a halfway decent defense against this process and strategy been successfully mounted.

More certainly needs to be done to fight against this. It's the whole mantra of shrieking about how everyone and anyone that doesn't swallow what the Liberals believe must be a Nazi and a white supremacist. All is designed to create this emotionally panicked attitude where people just bow down to the Liberal tyranny. It is really quite insidious how they seek to manipulate and control masses of people.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Quote from: Iron Cross;1118881It has shit upon its fandom.  It has implied that fans of the medieval period are mostly white supremists.

Of course they're white supremacists! But you gotta use the Official Twitter "Here's how know if somebody is a white supremacist" Test

1) Are they white?
If the answer is yes or no, proceed to question 2.

2) Do they gobble down all the SJW bullshit?
If yes, they are NOT a white supremacist.
If no, they are definitely a white supremacist Nazi misogynist naughty-thinker!!!!!!
 
See? That simple test solves everything.

Quote from: Marchand;1118889If you have a "fanbase" of about 3 guys, and there are, say, double digits of SJWs who will be totally impressed by your brave defiance of your fanbase, maybe enough to buy your book... then I guess this is a smart marketing move.

Anyway, thanks for the heads up - I was vaguely thinking about taking a look at this but I'll pass.

It's a very poor marketing move actually.  The SJWs are all about being Alice in Wonderland in D&D 5th edition.  WOC has that market segment solidly locked down.  C&S will never be able to complete with the simplicity and hip factor of D&D 5e.  What it should have done is cultivated its original fan base which are the grognards and expanded it to get new people who find 5e stupid and want a more Game of Thrones or historical legend experience in a game.   What they've done instead is alienate many people who had an appreciation for the original game and were going to be good customers and even some of its backers.  Stupid business move.  WOC will crush them.

Quote from: Spinachcat;1118945Of course they're white supremacists! But you gotta use the Official Twitter "Here's how know if somebody is a white supremacist" Test

1) Are they white?
If the answer is yes or no, proceed to question 2.

2) Do they gobble down all the SJW bullshit?
If yes, they are a white supremacist. (edit add:  but are aware of their problematic nature and trying to correct it. )
If no, they are definitely a white supremacist Nazi misogynist naughty-thinker!!!!!!
 
See? That simple test solves everything.

Fixed that for you 'cat.

Quote from: Stephen Tannhauser;1118926Does the 5e game itself also contain much of this preaching? I was considering picking it up for research value but I am largely disinclined these days to reward that kind of advocacy, or to slog through it.

Download the basic rules and judge for yourself. The tone and tenor is the same as the core books.
https://dnd.wizards.com/articles/features/basicrules