The whole Forger/Swine movement depends on the notion, that adventure gamers are basically not having fun.

If they had fun, there´d be no need to investigate other possibilities.

In reality, basically nobody investigates these "other possibilities".

Because they are having fun already.

Quote from: SeanchaiIt's also just possible that adherents of indy games have trouble taking no for an answer. It's awesome to make someone aware of a game they might like, but fricking annoying not to take a hint and stop trying when they indicate they're not interested...

I'm curious.  When was the last time someone did this to you?

!i!

QuoteYour starting a drama thread about an imaginary war is even more pathetic. Really -- praising ignorance as a virtue. Aren't you embarrassed?

So following a pastime is ignorance?

I think you are mistaking games for the culture of your respective civilization. The one to be embarassed is you.

You are swine.

Quote from: SettembriniSo following a pastime is ignorance?

You see?  There you go again, trying to make it seem like I stated something that I didn't.  I'll cut you some slack and chalk it up to English not being your native language.  Sit down with a copy of my post and a dictionary, then come back when you've figured out what you got wrong.

!i!

That could well be.

But instead of being condescending and dodgy, you could be superiour by being clear and answer the questions.

All messages I get from you are in the swine frequency. Change that, and I´ll listen.

Why should I answer a question that has no bearing on the topic?  Why should I answer a question that is clearly intended to trap me into saying something that will (hopefully) offend a large sector of the membership here?  Why don't you use the search engine and cross-reference "Ian Absentia" and "D&D"?  I'm guessing you'll be surprised, and quite possibly disappointed, by the result.  But I'll happily dance around you like this when you come at me like you have.

Oh, and this...

Quote from: SettembriniAll messages I get from you are in the swine frequency. Change that, and I´ll listen.

You seem to be listening to me.  Honestly, I think this whole "Swine" term has lost any meaning it ever had, if, indeed, it ever had any.  It seems to just mean "I don't like you or the way you talk about roleplaying games."

!i!

(P.S. I'm genuinely sorry about bringing in the second language issue -- that seems like a low blow.  But I'm honestly wondering if we're just misunderstanding one another. By "ignorant" I most certainly don't mean "stupid" or "incapable of learning."  What I mean is "unaware of something other."  Even if you find that you don't like something other, at least you know that you don't.  As I stated earlier in the thread, the fact that most people are unaware (let's not use "ignorant") of games that diverge from the mainstream isn't a virtue, it's a deficit.  It's something that they haven't experienced yet, and if they ever have the opportunity to broaden their horizons, they might find something else that they like.  Or not.  Discovery is funny like that.)

QuoteIt seems to just mean "I don't like you or the way you talk about roleplaying games."

That´s what I´m saying, you bumhead!
What´s the problem with you?

You grew up on some kind of home for the spineless or what?
Show your colours!

Quote from: Ian AbsentiaOh, and this...You seem to be listening to me.  Honestly, I think this whole "Swine" term has lost any meaning it ever had, if, indeed, it ever had any.  It seems to just mean "I don't like you or the way you talk about roleplaying games."

And then read this :

QuoteSett:

If they had fun, there´d be no need to investigate other possibilities.

In reality, basically nobody investigates these "other possibilities".

Because they are having fun already.

So, you know where he is coming from, right?

Regards,
David R

I certainly do. He's a Swine!

!i!

We're all of us normal roleplayers.

Except for you.  Yeah, you.  You're the abnormal one.

Yup.

Regards,
David R

Quote from: SettembriniThe whole Forger/Swine movement depends on the notion, that adventure gamers are basically not having fun.

If they had fun, there´d be no need to investigate other possibilities.

In reality, basically nobody investigates these "other possibilities".

Because they are having fun already.

Does putting something in philosophical proof form make it a stronger argument no matter how ridiculous?

The idea that enjoying one thing means I'd never want to try another thing is retarded.

Just because they haven't heard of it, doesn't make it good. It just means it isn't widespread.

Just because it's popular, doesn't make it shitty.

Did I miss anything?

Quote from: GunslingerDoes putting something in philosophical proof form make it a stronger argument no matter how ridiculous?

That's a root assumption of most German philosophy, yes.

Quote from: RPGPundit...Its a nonentity, popular only in the sick minds of the RPG.net fashionistas.

Ohhhhh. This is another "I Hate the RPGNet" thread.  Can we at least move these to the "Pundit Forum"?

Or perhaps create a new forum here specifically for "I Hate RPGNet" threads?  That way we can move all these threads to one area so as not to get in the way of the actual gaming discussion.  

Jeff?

-Andy