Quote from: Crawford Tillinghast;1090409Here's the first paragraph of the introduction of the bad guys.
(blah blah quoted for review blah blah no challenge blah blah).


I'm not seeing anything particularly problematic with this so far.  I suppose if you look hard enough, you can see anti-Trumpism in the shadows.  Is the SJW stuff further in?

Also I had never heard of "National Union for Social Justice" but I find the name of the outfit just plain hilarious.

Bemusingly. Sinclair Lewis' novel, "It Can't Happen Here", was the basis for the original TV series "V" as it was originally rejected by the execs untill it was re-submitted as an alien invasion story.

Quote from: Gagarth;1107008Pregens from part one of Nu-Chaosium's latest organised play series Flotsam and Jetsam

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er... What is supposed to be wrong with these characters? That there are 4 women on the page and 2 men? Arent there any more pregen characters?

Wonder when the SJWs will turn on CoC itself for being based on a racist's work.

Quote from: ArrozConLeche;1108035Wonder when the SJWs will turn on CoC itself for being based on a racist's work.

They already have, if you think about it.  Chaosium products are no longer for people who want to fight the Cthulthu Mythos, but for people who want to fight the ghost of H. P. Lovecraft.

Moved.

Roll 1d6/2 +4 SAN loss and continue posting in the thread due to moving to the correct forum. If your SAN drops low enough, add a quirk or just get a beer from the fridge.

Quote from: Crawford Tillinghast;1108044They already have, if you think about it.  Chaosium products are no longer for people who want to fight the Cthulthu Mythos, but for people who want to fight the ghost of H. P. Lovecraft.

I'm just thinking that even that might not be pure enough in the future since the source of it is tainted with an original sin.

Quote from: Crawford Tillinghast;1108044They already have, if you think about it.  Chaosium products are no longer for people who want to fight the Cthulthu Mythos, but for people who want to fight the ghost of H. P. Lovecraft.

I think this is true of most popular media and Scifi/Fantasy sites as well. Anyone in the press covering a topic related to Lovecraft always calls out his racism. I believe they do so because otherwise they will get a lot of hate mail / comments from those that are too academically incapable of separating a subject from the author.

"Lovecraft Country" and the Nick Cage movie are only going to make this worse.

Quote from: Lynn;1108289I think this is true of most popular media and Scifi/Fantasy sites as well. Anyone in the press covering a topic related to Lovecraft always calls out his racism.

Yeah, I've noticed the beating of that drum, and it annoys me. I won't deny for a second that Lovecraft had a lot of issues... and that these fueled his creations. But I'm not sure I see urgent necessity of bringing it up EVERY FUCKING TIME his name drops.
I can't think of any other popular writer who I've seen people do this with... maybe Marion Zimmer Bradley (much more recent and someone who I'd say was worse than Lovecraft in her actual misdeeds)?
There are a number of popular artists that were/are horrible people (and beyond merely having dumb opinions), yet you don't see a litany of their sins repeated in EVERY article about them.
I suspect it has more to do with needling some assumed fandom of Lovecraft's than it does any actual bother about the man himself.

In a more general sense, I see no point in this obsession for looking up the skirts of dead folks when we have plenty of evil fuckers in the here-and-now to deal with.

Quote from: S'mon;1090198PDF is on sale here - https://www.chaosium.com/a-cold-fire-within-pdf/

Wow, that art is terrible. Cthulhu already suffers for being a cartoony bad guy so drawing the mythos as an actual cartoon doesn't help.

Quote from: hedgehobbit;1108409Wow, that art is terrible.

It's not bad, IMO, but it's not really giving me a vibe of atmospheric horror. It looks more like a Batman-style cartoon aimed at pulpy action/adventure, which I assume was its intent.

Odd how the font choice for the title of the pdf is reminiscent of the typography of an 80s metal cover. Registers as a bit incongruous.

I actually kind of like the art from what I can see of it.

QuoteIt looks more like a Batman-style cartoon aimed at pulpy action/adventure, which I assume was its intent.

The module is written for Pulp Cthulhu after all.

As for the claims made by the OP...well, all I can say is that I'm interested enough in the synopsis for the module to pick it up, read it and decide for myself. If it ends up being all that's claimed up thread, I guess I consider myself to have been duly warned. I'm still kind of hoping there's a fun, pulpy adventure to be had there though.

Pregens for Nu-Chaosium's  The Quest of the Red Blade for Pendragon

Male Roman Christain Knight from Eburacum
Male Irish Christain Knight from Estergales
Female Lesbian Christian Knight from Wuerensis
Male Gay Christain Knight frmom Benoit
Female pagan Knight from Lothian
Male Berber Saracen Faris (Knight)

I could not give two craps whether there is liberal or conservative views interspersed in this product. The fact that there may be an extremist socio-political organisation is fine for a 1930s Pulp Cthulhu campaign.

What puts me off is the cover artwork:

The font style looks like it's from a Heavy Metal album, and the characters depicted on the cover look like goofy villains from a Scooby-Do cartoon. If Chaosium wants to portray Pulp Cthulhu then the artwork needs to look like a classic serial, or like an Indiana Jones or Mummy movie poster.

Their previous Pulp Cthulhu campaign, The Two-Headed Serpent, has a great cover, so I don't know what they were thinking this time.

The art direction is just wrong, and that frames it for me. I doubt I'll get a hard copy of this.