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Chaosium's new campaign A Cold Fire Within is out

Started by Gagarth, June 01, 2019, 08:16:44 AM

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Gagarth

June 01, 2019, 08:16:44 AM
What a surprise the bad guys are American fascists led by a populist influential radio figure.
'Don't join us. Work hard, get good degrees, join the Establishment and serve our cause from within.' Harry Pollitt - Communist Party GB

"Don't worry about the election, Trump's not gonna win. I made f*cking sure of that!" Eric Coomer -  Dominion Voting Systems Officer of Strategy and Security

Spinachcat

#1
June 01, 2019, 04:46:47 PM
Links!

And should this thread should be in RPG main page?

I can't believe I'm gonna toss CoC. It's been my horror go-to forever.

Blood Axe

#2
June 01, 2019, 05:57:02 PM
Quote from: Gagarth;1090102What a surprise the bad guys are American fascists led by a populist influential radio figure.

Oh brother.   Does it come with a free " Punch a Nazi " t-shirt?
To DEFEND: this is the pact.
 But when life loses its meaning
 and is taken for naught...
 then the pact is to AVENGE !

Armchair Gamer

#3
June 01, 2019, 06:53:55 PM
Quote from: Gagarth;1090102What a surprise the bad guys are American fascists led by a populist influential radio figure.

   Does it anchor it in the historical precedent of folks like Fr. Coughlin, or in contemporary progressive fears?

shuddemell

#4
June 01, 2019, 08:58:52 PM
As a nearly lifelong fan of Mythos fiction, this "progressive" viewpoint has started to seep into Mythos fiction in the last decade or so, to the point where it is becoming unenjoyable. It's sad to see Chaosium encouraging this even further with CoC.
Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts – Richard Feynman

Our virtues and our failings are inseparable, like force and matter. When they separate, man is no more. – Nikola Tesla

A wise man can learn more from a foolish question than a fool can learn from a wise answer. – Bruce Lee

He who lives in harmony with himself lives in harmony with the universe. – Marcus Aurelius

For you see we are aimless hate filled animals scampering away into the night. – Skwisgaar Skwigelf

jeff37923

#5
June 01, 2019, 10:05:38 PM
As much as I'm tired of leftist propaganda showing up in pop culture (especially my favorite hobby), I'd like to see some more information and confirmation of this.
"Meh."

shuddemell

#6
June 02, 2019, 01:36:31 AM
Quote from: jeff37923;1090164As much as I'm tired of leftist propaganda showing up in pop culture (especially my favorite hobby), I'd like to see some more information and confirmation of this.

As would I. I can attest only to it showing up in fiction, but some authors are certainly pushing it. I also don't believe it unlikely, since a good chunk of the Mythos material comes from Chaosium. It certainly wouldn't surprise me that it is seeping over into their RPG's.
Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts – Richard Feynman

Our virtues and our failings are inseparable, like force and matter. When they separate, man is no more. – Nikola Tesla

A wise man can learn more from a foolish question than a fool can learn from a wise answer. – Bruce Lee

He who lives in harmony with himself lives in harmony with the universe. – Marcus Aurelius

For you see we are aimless hate filled animals scampering away into the night. – Skwisgaar Skwigelf

jeff37923

#8
June 02, 2019, 06:19:22 AM
Quote from: S'mon;1090198PDF is on sale here - https://www.chaosium.com/a-cold-fire-within-pdf/

Thank you, S'mon. I'm not seeing any "bad guys are American fascists led by a populist influential radio figure" in this adventure at first glance. Does anybody have a better link?
"Meh."

Gagarth

#9
June 02, 2019, 06:49:35 AM
Quote from: Armchair Gamer;1090138Does it anchor it in the historical precedent of folks like Fr. Coughlin, or in contemporary progressive fears?

Why would that matter? Since the latter uses the former as a tool in their propaganda. But since you ask the organisation is the League of Forgotten Men lifted straight from Sinclair Lewis'  It Can't Happen Here. Here is a take on the book probably not unlike New Chaosium's views. http://viridislumen.blogspot.com/2017/08/it-cant-happen-here-last-lament-of.html and the author's since he loves wallowing in Lovecraft's racism https://csmithadair.com/2016/07/01/lovecraft-in-his-grave-pondering-race/
'Don't join us. Work hard, get good degrees, join the Establishment and serve our cause from within.' Harry Pollitt - Communist Party GB

"Don't worry about the election, Trump's not gonna win. I made f*cking sure of that!" Eric Coomer -  Dominion Voting Systems Officer of Strategy and Security

Gagarth

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June 02, 2019, 06:55:18 AM Last Edit: June 02, 2019, 07:06:03 AM by Gagarth
Quote from: jeff37923;1090209Thank you, S'mon. I'm not seeing any "bad guys are American fascists led by a populist influential radio figure" in this adventure at first glance. Does anybody have a better link?

You will not find any because as far as I can see New Chaosium has been very tight lipped about the actual content of the campaign.  In case you are in any doubt who the bad guys are one of them has a copy of Mein Kampf.
'Don't join us. Work hard, get good degrees, join the Establishment and serve our cause from within.' Harry Pollitt - Communist Party GB

"Don't worry about the election, Trump's not gonna win. I made f*cking sure of that!" Eric Coomer -  Dominion Voting Systems Officer of Strategy and Security

Godfather Punk

#11
June 02, 2019, 07:23:56 AM
So it's Pulp Cthulhu, it's set in the 1930's, and people are surprised the bad guys are nazi's?

shuddemell

#12
June 02, 2019, 07:44:21 AM
I have a big problem with people "interpreting" Lovecraft with a modern lens. Sadly, his views were pretty commonplace then, and his extreme xenophobia, in large part contributed to his view of other cultures and his racism. While it is lamentable that such talented artists could be in some aspects horrible people, it is not surprising. Though often, this "judgement" is very selectively applied much like leftists today hold their opponents to far more stringent standards than they hold themselves to.
Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts – Richard Feynman

Our virtues and our failings are inseparable, like force and matter. When they separate, man is no more. – Nikola Tesla

A wise man can learn more from a foolish question than a fool can learn from a wise answer. – Bruce Lee

He who lives in harmony with himself lives in harmony with the universe. – Marcus Aurelius

For you see we are aimless hate filled animals scampering away into the night. – Skwisgaar Skwigelf

jeff37923

#13
June 02, 2019, 08:19:44 AM
Quote from: Gagarth;1090212You will not find any because as far as I can see New Chaosium has been very tight lipped about the actual content of the campaign.  In case you are in any doubt who the bad guys are one of them has a copy of Mein Kampf.

I hate to do this, but I'm hitting the heresay barrier pretty hard on this one. While I don't doubt that the authors can take advantage of Lovecraft to virtue signal, I personally need more proof before I condemn.
"Meh."

Shasarak

#14
June 02, 2019, 07:16:46 PM
Quote from: Gagarth;1090212You will not find any because as far as I can see New Chaosium has been very tight lipped about the actual content of the campaign.  In case you are in any doubt who the bad guys are one of them has a copy of Mein Kampf.

Chaosium is so far behind the curve, now you can tell who the real bad guys are if they have a copy of 12 Rules for Life.
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pathetically struggling,
look at the good things you've got! -  Jesus
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