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Castles & Crusades vs. Old School Essentials

Started by Batjon, June 22, 2021, 12:29:21 AM

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GhostNinja

#30
April 02, 2023, 05:57:15 PM
I went the OSE route (as I have said in multiple threads and are probably sick of me saying)  ;D

I looked over many of the different OSR books/systems out there and for me OSE just worked and made sense.  I did this because I am currently running 5e and I having real annoyances with the system and I no longer want to give WOTC any more money.

I looked at Castles and Crusades and it just seemed a bit clunky/overcomplicated to me and that really turned me off of it.   OSE makes sense to me.  Plus, being able to use the OSE adventures that are published and any B/X adventures out there gives me a wealth of material to work with.
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finarvyn

#31
April 02, 2023, 08:58:38 PM
When I playtested C&C back in the day, I had handy all sorts of AD&D monster books and AD&D modules and ran that stuff with minimal conversion. C&C is basically AD&D rebuilt on a 3E framework. There are a few changes such as ascending AC, the SIEGE mechanic, and such, but really nothing that couldn't be converted on the fly.

OSE is basically B/X D&D, so if you like that better than AD&D then go that route.

My group went from OD&D to AD&D to 2E to 3E to 5E, so C&C was more intuitive for me, but I assume if you learned D&D through B/X and BECME then OSE would be a better choice.
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GhostNinja

#32
April 03, 2023, 09:25:36 AM
Quote from: finarvyn on April 02, 2023, 08:58:38 PM
When I playtested C&C back in the day, I had handy all sorts of AD&D monster books and AD&D modules and ran that stuff with minimal conversion. C&C is basically AD&D rebuilt on a 3E framework. There are a few changes such as ascending AC, the SIEGE mechanic, and such, but really nothing that couldn't be converted on the fly.

OSE is basically B/X D&D, so if you like that better than AD&D then go that route.

My group went from OD&D to AD&D to 2E to 3E to 5E, so C&C was more intuitive for me, but I assume if you learned D&D through B/X and BECME then OSE would be a better choice.

I assume you are addressing me.  Even if you are not, I agree with your assessment.  That's why after reading a bunch of different things that I settled on OSE.
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Persimmon

#33
April 03, 2023, 10:45:42 AM
C&C is not really over complicated, but if you don't have an AD&D background, the greater number of options, spells, etc., will make for a higher entry bar than OSE, particularly if you're sticking to classic, as opposed to "Advanced" OSE.  I love both games and have played both extensively.  Personally, I slightly prefer C&C, but my players prefer OSE and it is easier for me to run so we end up playing that more.

GhostNinja

#34
April 03, 2023, 12:23:41 PM
Quote from: Persimmon on April 03, 2023, 10:45:42 AM
C&C is not really over complicated, but if you don't have an AD&D background, the greater number of options, spells, etc., will make for a higher entry bar than OSE, particularly if you're sticking to classic, as opposed to "Advanced" OSE.  I love both games and have played both extensively.  Personally, I slightly prefer C&C, but my players prefer OSE and it is easier for me to run so we end up playing that more.

I am thinking that after I go through the classic OSE book I might get the Advanced ones to add more classes and other features to spice up the game.

Figured I start with classic, see if its really want I want then move up.
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