https://www.trolllord.com/tlgstore/#!/Castle-Zagyg-Yggsburgh-Campaign-Setting/p/581953275 (https://www.trolllord.com/tlgstore/#!/Castle-Zagyg-Yggsburgh-Campaign-Setting/p/581953275)
I already have it.
Sounds like the "Gord the Rogue" series may get a re-print at some point too.
Interview with Troll Lord Games and Luke Gygax if you want to watch it
So Zagyg finally comes to fruition, for the masses? It's a shame that half of those who were longing to see this day, have probably already died of old age.
If this would have released, shortly after Gary's death; it would have been Huge!!!
Sounds like the Hermit adventure will be later this year and early next year will be the Gygaxian Fantasy Worlds series
If those do well, there may be 3-4 more boxed sets of Castle Zagyg.
I looks like this is for Castles and Crusades. Am I correct?
Quote from: GhostNinja on August 24, 2023, 03:26:26 PM
I looks like this is for Castles and Crusades. Am I correct?
Believe so, they include a document on converting it to 5E when you buy it.
Quote from: LordBP on August 24, 2023, 03:31:59 PM
Quote from: GhostNinja on August 24, 2023, 03:26:26 PM
I looks like this is for Castles and Crusades. Am I correct?
Believe so, they include a document on converting it to 5E when you buy it.
Ok thank you
I bought it "to convince the estate of its commercial viability."
I've wanted to run a "Gygax Greyhawk" campaign for a long time. If Zagyg is the closest I'll ever get to Gary's Castle Greyhawk, I'm in. I just hope that (a) it's mostly written by The Man and not the co-author, and (b) they don't drag out the necessary components to make the total cost of the dungeon ridiculous.
Oh, and that I live long enough.
Long overdue, for the Gygax fan base.
Quote from: Baron on August 24, 2023, 03:47:38 PM
I bought it "to convince the estate of its commercial liability."
I've wanted to run a "Gygax Greyhawk" campaign for a long time. If Zagyg is the closest I'll ever get to Gary's Castle Greyhawk, I'm in. I just hope that (a) it's mostly written by The Man and not the co-author, and (b) they don't drag out the necessary components to make the total cost of the dungeon ridiculous.
Oh, and that I live long enough.
Yggburgh and Upper Works are absolutely Gary Products. As far as what they'll have Luke do with the notes Gary made for the rest of the castle, I can't say how closely they'll keep to Gary's original vision.
Quote from: shoplifter on August 24, 2023, 07:42:14 PM
Yggburgh and Upper Works are absolutely Gary Products.
The Upper Works are credited: "By Gary Gygax with Jeffrey P. Talanian."
In situations like this, what you purchase may come across as "inspired by" notes provided by the famous guy, but mostly are the product of the "co-author." And that's what I'm afraid of here. Certainly that would be even more of a risk with any new products that hadn't seen publication during the line's initial life time.
Talanian definitely helped him get it done, likely due to Gary's health at the time, but the product itself certainly feels like it's straight from Gary's brain. Yggsburgh itself is 100% Gary. And yes, I agree with you about the unpublished products. My hope is that Luke had enough discussions with his father over the years to get it out there as faithfully as possible. I certainly can't speak as to what state Gary's notes for the unpublished products were in.
Quote from: David Johansen on August 24, 2023, 01:51:24 PM
I already have it.
Great comment, very useful.
I, too, own a copy and will be buying another just so TLG will continue to publish all the other stuff that sat on the back burner for years. That's the real reason to support this. RE: Gygax writing it, I've talked to Jeff Talanian and he pretty much said EGG is responsible for 95% of his and the boxed set, Talanian just did some editing for the most part and got the manuscript together at the end when Gary was not doing so well. He could be full of shit, but if you go through the book it's like reading the DMG or something, so if Talanian ghostwrote some of it he was channeling Gary.
Quote from: Brad on August 24, 2023, 08:26:35 PM
I, too, own a copy and will be buying another just so TLG will continue to publish all the other stuff that sat on the back burner for years. That's the real reason to support this. RE: Gygax writing it, I've talked to Jeff Talanian and he pretty much said EGG is responsible for 95% of his and the boxed set, Talanian just did some editing for the most part and got the manuscript together at the end when Gary was not doing so well. He could be full of shit, but if you go through the book it's like reading the DMG or something, so if Talanian ghostwrote some of it he was channeling Gary.
Same here. I'll happily pony up for a second copy because Gary's final works deserve to be released. It's as close as we're ever going to get to having CG.
Thanks for the clarifications on Talanian's work on TUW. That was certainly the feeling I got from it, so I'm glad that it appears to have been accurate.
Quote from: shoplifter on August 24, 2023, 07:42:14 PM
Quote from: Baron on August 24, 2023, 03:47:38 PM
I bought it "to convince the estate of its commercial liability."
I've wanted to run a "Gygax Greyhawk" campaign for a long time. If Zagyg is the closest I'll ever get to Gary's Castle Greyhawk, I'm in. I just hope that (a) it's mostly written by The Man and not the co-author, and (b) they don't drag out the necessary components to make the total cost of the dungeon ridiculous.
Oh, and that I live long enough.
Yggburgh and Upper Works are absolutely Gary Products. As far as what they'll have Luke do with the notes Gary made for the rest of the castle, I can't say how closely they'll keep to Gary's original vision.
Paul Stormberg had stated in an interview that they had discovered Gary's remaining dungeon notes... Perhaps the original eight levels. I really hope they don't botch it up like Brian Herbert and Kevin J. Anderson did with Frank Herbert's found-in-a-safe-deposit-box Dune 7.
Quote from: Timothe on August 26, 2023, 12:51:06 PMPaul Stormberg had stated in an interview that they had discovered Gary's remaining dungeon notes... Perhaps the original eight levels.
The entire original Castle Greyhawk exists in Gary's estate contents, including both the first version (created by Gary during the OD&D playtesting), and the second, expanded version (created by Gary and Rib Kuntz when they combined Rob's Castle El Raja Key with the original Greyhawk levels, when Rob began to co-DM the Greyhawk campaign with Gary).
Allan.
Anyone know approximately when the hard copies of the reissue are planned to ship?
Quote from: Baron on September 08, 2023, 10:23:48 PM
Anyone know approximately when the hard copies of the reissue are planned to ship?
The Troll Lord website and their Discord server does not mention it. They're having a live chat Sunday night to talk about it:
https://www.facebook.com/1227159343/posts/pfbid0ECtXzedTfk5wKaf7ypWLVhZxfxXErikT1JWgoWgV25WeTxdRuq4rcn1wAZbT4Xvpl/
https://www.twitch.tv/lordgosumba/schedule?seriesID=a52416fa-da04-47f4-a840-bf9fe3c506d6