Quote from: Kyle Aaron;333219Don't you ever watch American Idol or So You Think You Can Dance?

No, but I think it's hilarious that you do.

What can I do, my woman controls the remote.

Quote from: Kyle Aaron;333275What can I do, my woman controls the remote.

"The remote?" That's what they call it in Oz?

Does she keep "the remote" in a box on the mantle? How often does she let you touch it? Can you take it without asking her for permission first?



Okay, I could go on with this for hours, but I should really just stop now.

in Soviet Russia, remote controls woman!

Tuesday night I stopped in at the other main game store locally.

 This past Saturday "Game Day" they ran 7 groups for D&D Game Day over the course of the day. Their planned 8th session got cancelled.

This store might be considered our main competition - but if they are we're pretty friendly as competitors go. About 50% to two-thirds the stuff we sell overlaps what they have to sell...just the quantities vary. For example: the store I work at has a bigger selection of WARHAMMER 40K products than they do, they have a large selection of used and older games includsing older editions of D&D - we do not , we just stock currently in-print stuff.

So I asked that store's manager what he thought of the Game Day Kit.
 He said that he and his staff (two of them are his sons) looked it over and knew that it was not the kind of 'Game Day' experience their regular customers normally look for - or the rookies who were signing on the siugn-up sheets.

He then called his WotC contact and asked for permission to hand out the kits a week or so early to the Dungeon Masters involved and let them make it into more of a regular dungeon adventure. His WoTc contact had no problem with that idea - and understood the issues or possible problems with the original kit (You know the stuff that I ranted about)

That store's manager said that they should have titled it as a "DM Workshop kit" and not as a Game Day adventure.

By-the-way, the guy I'm talking about runs a 1st or 2nd edition D&D game in the basement of his store every Sunday for some of the regulars there.  When I've stopped in on Sundays to browse he has had this gorgeous huge map of Greyhawk that is under a pane of glass that makes up a huge portion of this large table they use for their game sessions.


- Ed C.

Quote from: Koltar;333863His WoTc contact had no problem with that idea - and understood the issues or possible problems with the original kit (You know the stuff that I ranted about)

"Oh there is either 'story gaming' or 'forgie' influence in the writing of this and terminology."

No, I don't think we do know - we're still waiting on this.

Seanchai

Quote from: DeadUematsu;332663I don't see what the problem is. People making collaborative adventures and then playing them is a sin now?

Only in the eyes of people who lack the skills to pull it off.

Quote from: ICFTI;333964Only in the eyes of people who lack the skills to pull it off.

Sure, but we're also talking about a group effort here. All you need is a person or two who doesn't possess the right attributes - whether those are the ability to come up with a good scenario or just plain cooperate as a group - and things don't turn out as well.

Seanchai

Quote from: Seanchai;333974Sure, but we're also talking about a group effort here. All you need is a person or two who doesn't possess the right attributes - whether those are the ability to come up with a good scenario or just plain cooperate as a group - and things don't turn out as well.

It was supposed to be a simple intro, and the product wasn't expected to be art. Considering it was supposed to be used by some people who were total n00bs to DMing(if not D&D and/or the entire hobby in general), I think your expectations are unrealistic. You're not going to take someone from n00b to l337 in an hour, and nobody was expecting to. When a product doesn't do something it's not intended to do, I have a hard time calling that a failure.

Not to mention nobody was going to be forced to do the adventure-building part if they really didn't want to. You're totally overreacting.

Quote from: Koltar;333863His WoTc contact had no problem with that idea - and understood the issues or possible problems with the original kit (You know the stuff that I ranted about)

Was that in another thread?

Quote from: Fifth Element;334010Was that in another thread?

No this thread, post #214

Seriously, the OP is made of awfulness and fail. Now watch as Koltar tries to appoint himself as Orthodoxy Comissar of Gaming, second only to the Great Inquisitor of the One True Way.

Sad.

Quote from: GeekEclectic;334005...I think your expectations are unrealistic.

I don't have any expectations regarding it, per se, save that if you take a bunch of people - just a random assortment of people - and ask them to work together on a task like the one we're discussing, it'll take longer than expected, won't produce even results, will result in disagreements, etc..

Quote from: GeekEclectic;334005You're totally overreacting.

I think you're confusing me with someone else. For example, I said, "But I thought it did a decent job of doing what it was supposed to: give people a wee taste of 4e. I attended one of these for 3e and it was pretty much the same: a flimsy reason to go adventuring, a couple of encounters, and a congratulations at the end."

Seanchai
Seanchai