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Can you think of 1 thing that would make 5E even better?

Started by Razor 007, January 16, 2019, 05:38:53 AM

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Haffrung

#15
January 16, 2019, 01:35:01 PM
Better presentation of monster and NPC encounter stats.

5E took a big step back by having spellcasting NPCs and monsters use standard spells. 4E had it right, with the arcane abilities for monsters and NPCs right in the stat blocks. With 5E it's back to the bad old days of printing out spellcards, bookmarking PHBs, making notes etc. whenever you're planning to run an encounter with spellcasters.

One of the things 4E got right was the graphical presentation of encounters and combat abilities - made it way easier to run encounters at the table. 4E is still the only edition of D&D that looks like it had input from people who were professionally trained in presenting complex content in a user-friendly manner.
 

Brad

#16
January 16, 2019, 02:01:35 PM
I played 5th for about three years, finally decided I've had enough; just not doing it for me anymore. If I had to change one thing, I'd remove all the non-AD&D races. I think they add nothing valuable to the main PHB whatsoever. Put dragonborn an tieflings in Xanathar's Guide, I'm fine with that. Having them in the core book annoys the fuck out of me.
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Razor 007

#17
January 16, 2019, 02:37:50 PM
Quote from: Brad;1071563I played 5th for about three years, finally decided I've had enough; just not doing it for me anymore. If I had to change one thing, I'd remove all the non-AD&D races. I think they add nothing valuable to the main PHB whatsoever. Put dragonborn an tieflings in Xanathar's Guide, I'm fine with that. Having them in the core book annoys the fuck out of me.

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#18
January 16, 2019, 02:45:02 PM
Gear. I want an Arms and Equipment-style book for expanding equipment selection (mundane and magical) and making the difference between different weapons/armor meaningful (more tags, subsystems, etc) - I know this is a lot of fiddly crap to a lot of people, so I wouldn't want it in the core, but I'd love to have this in my toolbox
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HappyDaze

#19
January 16, 2019, 02:51:55 PM
Quote from: Brad;1071563I played 5th for about three years, finally decided I've had enough; just not doing it for me anymore. If I had to change one thing, I'd remove all the non-AD&D races. I think they add nothing valuable to the main PHB whatsoever. Put dragonborn an tieflings in Xanathar's Guide, I'm fine with that. Having them in the core book annoys the fuck out of me.
Nobody is forcing you to use them in your games, and it's pretty easy to remove them yourself; just buy a Sharpie and black them out if you don't like them.

Brad

#20
January 16, 2019, 03:35:23 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze;1071579Nobody is forcing you to use them in your games, and it's pretty easy to remove them yourself; just buy a Sharpie and black them out if you don't like them.

Thread: Can you think of 1 thing that would make 5E even better?

So...yeah? You could respond to EVERY post on this board with "just change it".
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HappyDaze

#21
January 16, 2019, 05:31:18 PM
Quote from: Brad;1071596Thread: Can you think of 1 thing that would make 5E even better?

So...yeah? You could respond to EVERY post on this board with "just change it".

No, only to removals of material. The Sharpie approach is far less useful for adding stuff.

BronzeDragon

#22
January 16, 2019, 06:08:00 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze;1071613No, only to removals of material. The Sharpie approach is far less useful for adding stuff.

Addition by subtraction is an actual thing. :D
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Haffrung

#23
January 16, 2019, 06:31:33 PM
Quote from: HappyDaze;1071579Nobody is forcing you to use them in your games, and it's pretty easy to remove them yourself; just buy a Sharpie and black them out if you don't like them.

Yeah, I've always treated those weird races as optional. My players know just because something is in the PHB doesn't mean it's in my game.
 

JeremyR

#24
January 16, 2019, 06:39:38 PM
I think hit dice should stop at 10th level.

Doom

#25
January 16, 2019, 07:02:50 PM
Quote from: Rhedyn;1071517A monster manual filled with creatures that actually have the tools needed to handle the PCs.

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This. Most of the monsters are basically 2nd edition monsters, unaware of the power creep. "Mage Slayer" should be a built in feat for half of them, "Always get opportunity attacks" is another, "Magic Resistance" needs to be not-stupid (the most common spells don't have saves anyway, and there's always autofail methods), spellcasting monsters should cast spells as a bonus action (most of them),
ways to counter "I win" buttons would be good, multi-attack should be on just about every monster past CR3 or so, many more should have effective ranged attacks, perhaps a few other things to bring them in line with the "new and improved" PCs.
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danskmacabre

#26
January 16, 2019, 07:03:41 PM
Quote from: rgalex;1071511A feat that would allow a caster to have a 2nd concentration spell up.  I know the whole concentration thing was an attempt to reign in magic user superiority but most players I know think they went too far with how many spells were hit with the concentration stick.

Yeah, a more flexible approach to concentration rules and limits would be an improvement.
It's really my biggest complaint with 5e.
Overall, I quite like 5e though.

S'mon

#27
January 17, 2019, 02:24:22 AM
I'm a big fan of concentration and the attunement limit so I'd want any changes to be optional.

Monsters - generally if they are underpowered I can just increase their attacks and let them throw stuff. Saving throws can be an issue for most monsters, stuff like Banishment is a bit op imo.
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Haffrung

#28
January 17, 2019, 08:43:15 AM
Quote from: Rhedyn;1071517A monster manual filled with creatures that actually have the tools needed to handle the PCs.

Yeah, challenging the PCs is really tough in 5E. Combats rarely last more than 2 or 3 rounds. PCs in 5E are almost as powerful and impervious as PCs in 4E, but combat is less interesting and monsters weaker. So the only way to get a 'tough' fight is with a monster with huge HP, and combat becomes the PCs chopping down an enormous tree with hit after hit after hit.
 

Brad

#29
January 17, 2019, 09:06:07 AM
Quote from: HappyDaze;1071613No, only to removals of material. The Sharpie approach is far less useful for adding stuff.

"Marking out" parts of a game book just seems...wrong. It makes me anxious. Not a fan of defacing books, regardless of their content.
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