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Can A Vampire Become A Lich?

Started by jeff37923, September 05, 2021, 06:50:30 PM

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Banjo Destructo

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September 07, 2021, 12:05:25 PM
Personally, I don't think it would work in a game I run.
I'd roll with it if someone made it a thing in a game they were running.
I could see an anime slant to it where like... in vampire hunter D, there's vampires, but then there's a higher order vampire that hunts/consumes regular vampires.

So this vampire lich could be a vampire version of a lich that hunts/feeds off of liches, rather than just a combination of the qualities of a vampire and a lich. Maybe they actively seed information into human civilizations to lead to the creation of more liches to increase their own food supply, that sort of thing.

Shrieking Banshee

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September 07, 2021, 12:25:49 PM
I liked the idea of a Lich that has to drain other spellcasters. Sort of like a Failed Lich in a way.
Vampire->Lich is just too...Template stack-y.
Lich and Vampire have separate thematic underpinnings. You can create a combo, but in general I don't feel like stacking them works.

Pat

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September 07, 2021, 12:42:53 PM
Quote from: Shrieking Banshee on September 07, 2021, 12:25:49 PM
I liked the idea of a Lich that has to drain other spellcasters. Sort of like a Failed Lich in a way.
That would work well with the original conception of the incantatrix, the ones who were rare abberations, widely considered to be failed magic-users, who can't quite master the basics... but who can learn to steal the magic from another caster's mind. Make the lich an undead meta-magic parasite.

Shrieking Banshee

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September 07, 2021, 01:01:11 PM
Quote from: Pat on September 07, 2021, 12:42:53 PMThat would work well with the original conception of the incantatrix, the ones who were rare abberations, widely considered to be failed magic-users, who can't quite master the basics... but who can learn to steal the magic from another caster's mind. Make the lich an undead meta-magic parasite.

As an alternative to a vampirey Lich, you can have a Lichy Vampire.

A immortal undead spellcaster thats charismatic and social in place of one who isolates in a tower. Maybe teaches in an academy and bangs the hot students on the side, and them maybe has accidents happen to the students he dislikes.

BoxCrayonTales

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September 07, 2021, 03:44:30 PM
I was thinking of doing a standardization of the Koschei/Voldemort types. Ring-wraiths, lich-knights, lich-priests, lich-mages, vampires, etc... Each would have some kind of "secret heart" like a ring, suit of armor, sword, tefillin, coffin, zombie bottle, whatever. As long as the secret heart is intact, the Koschei won't stay dead.
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