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[Call of Cthulhu] So, what supplements should I buy?

Started by CTPhipps, September 06, 2016, 09:05:05 PM

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Dimitrios

Mansions of Madness is an older product, but it's fun and has been recently reprinted. There's a by now huge series of Secrets of X location source books, any of which might be useful depending on where you plan to set your game.

I definitely agree that Masks of Nyarlathotep is worth picking up. Its high reputation is deserved. As mentioned earlier, you'll probably have to tone it down a bit if you don't want PCs dropping like flies, however.

K Peterson

Quote from: CTPhipps;917569What supplements should I get from all the other editions, being primarily a fluff man.
Definitely the Lovecraft Country books. Anything you can find from Pagan Publishing. The 1920s Investigator's Handbook. Malleus Monstrorum.
QuoteWhat are the ones to avoid?
The 7th edition core books. ;)
QuoteI especially am interested in campaigns and adventures.
Then, Masks of Nyarlathotep, Beyond the Mountains of Madness, Escape from Innsmouth, Coming Full Circle, Realm of Shadows.

Robyo

Lots of great responses! Definitely seems like Masks of Nyarlathotep is a sure thing. Many others to check out too.

Forgive my blaspheme, but we're actually looking at running d20 CoC. It's what my players are most familiar with (PF/D&D/yaddayadda) I'm not worried about conversions, shouldn't be too hard...

Has anyone tried the Nocturnum campaign that FFG put out back in the day?

Hermes Serpent

If you are playing D20 CoC I'd suggest getting st least one of the dual-stat adventure supplements so that you can see how the conversion works. While 7e to earlier Chaosium D100-based editions is easy I'm not so sure that converting between completely different systems is going to be easy or work well.

Teodrik

Arkham
Dunwich
Kingsport
Dreamlands
Tatters of the King (campaign)

Teodrik

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Quote from: Robyo;917757Lots of great responses! Definitely seems like Masks of Nyarlathotep is a sure thing. Many others to check out too.

Forgive my blaspheme, but we're actually looking at running d20 CoC. It's what my players are most familiar with (PF/D&D/yaddayadda) I'm not worried about conversions, shouldn't be too hard...

Has anyone tried the Nocturnum campaign that FFG put out back in the day?

Supplements dual stated for BRP/D20 Cthulhu:

Arkham
Kingsport
Dunwich
Delta Green
Nocturnum
CoC D20 GM'screen with a adventure, handouts and conversion rules.

I have only skimmed Nocturnum long time ago. It is a classic kind of globe-trotter campaign set in our time and not the 20' or 30' (so there is travelling around the world) with the aim of stopping the end of the world and the unraveling of a great conspiracy against human existence. So not very original. But it seems like a very classic style kind of CoC campaign like "Masks..." and "Shadows of Yog-Sothoth". It does some inventing of new Mythos Threats for the plot of the campaign. So may not be for purists.

DavetheLost

I would put in a plug for d20 Call of Cthulhu. It has outstanding GM advice, good art, and a good implimentation of the d20 mechanics. It can be obtained for reasonable prices on Amazon, etc. The GM pack was, and may still be available on DriveThru from WotC.

TrippyHippy

Quote from: Omega;917702Unless they really overhauled CoC then it shouldnt bee too much like MSH.

They did. It is.
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yosemitemike

I really like Delta Green but it takes the game in a very different direction.  It brings it to modern times and incorporates modern UFO lore and conspiracy theory elements.  It's really different from the usual CoC 20s setting.  It's much more like X-Files.
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CTPhipps

Quote from: yosemitemike;917892I really like Delta Green but it takes the game in a very different direction.  It brings it to modern times and incorporates modern UFO lore and conspiracy theory elements.  It's really different from the usual CoC 20s setting.  It's much more like X-Files.

I've purchased Delta Green and that was actually my first and only line of Cthulhu-related products (aside from plushie). Overall, it's very nice but it's become very dated because they set out to be "modern" and they left out elements which were timeless. For example, the opening book really pissed me off by saying "The Cult of Cthulhu no longer exists because the Cult of Cthulhu was stupid and no one would seriously follow a degenerate revelry rights organization like it."

Which, hilariously, is right next to the Illuminati and UFOWatch.

:)

yosemitemike

Quote from: CTPhipps;917951I've purchased Delta Green and that was actually my first and only line of Cthulhu-related products (aside from plushie). Overall, it's very nice but it's become very dated because they set out to be "modern" and they left out elements which were timeless. For example, the opening book really pissed me off by saying "The Cult of Cthulhu no longer exists because the Cult of Cthulhu was stupid and no one would seriously follow a degenerate revelry rights organization like it."

Which, hilariously, is right next to the Illuminati and UFOWatch.

It's a bit dated now with its X-Files vibe but Illuminati and UFO theories are still alive and flourishing on the internet.  Things have shifted a bit like the greater concern about the surveillance state but a lot of that stuff is still around as much as ever.

The Cult of Cthulhu as presented in the 20s material is very much a Roaring 20s/flapper/Great Gatsby sort of thing.  I think that cult would have died out though I would have it around in other forms.  I would probably have it in the raver/club scene now.  That party subculture doesn't look the same now but it's still very much with us.
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CTPhipps

Quote from: yosemitemike;918018Which, hilariously, is right next to the Illuminati and UFOWatch.

It's a bit dated now with its X-Files vibe but Illuminati and UFO theories are still alive and flourishing on the internet.  Things have shifted a bit like the greater concern about the surveillance state but a lot of that stuff is still around as much as ever.

The Cult of Cthulhu as presented in the 20s material is very much a Roaring 20s/flapper/Great Gatsby sort of thing.  I think that cult would have died out though I would have it around in other forms.  I would probably have it in the raver/club scene now.  That party subculture doesn't look the same now but it's still very much with us.

Yeah, totally disagree. The Cult of Cthulhu would be everywhere. They would be behind evangelists, Prosperity Gospel, the secret spiritual advisors of the government, and there would be books on Cthulhu as a concept in stores.

Then again, I really loved the way it was depicted in The Apocalypse Codex.

Future Villain Band

Quote from: CTPhipps;918023Yeah, totally disagree. The Cult of Cthulhu would be everywhere. They would be behind evangelists, Prosperity Gospel, the secret spiritual advisors of the government, and there would be books on Cthulhu as a concept in stores.

Then again, I really loved the way it was depicted in The Apocalypse Codex.
Specifically, the Delta Green rulebook says that the Cult of Cthulhu doesn't exist in its old form -- inbred, debased revelers in swamps is not something that survive to the present day.  His cult is now made up of a lot of powerful individuals, worshipping privately or in small groups, but when he's ready to wake up again, then they'll all unify and the Cult of Cthulhu will return in a new form, made up of the cream of society.  

So they didn't write out the Cult of Cthulhu permanently, but they did update it.  Given DG's focus on Hastur, the Shan, the Mi-Go, and the like, I imagine they were trying to make more use out of underused Mythos entities rather than going back to the well again.

yosemitemike

Quote from: CTPhipps;918023Yeah, totally disagree. The Cult of Cthulhu would be everywhere. They would be behind evangelists, Prosperity Gospel, the secret spiritual advisors of the government, and there would be books on Cthulhu as a concept in stores.

Then again, I really loved the way it was depicted in The Apocalypse Codex.

I totally disagree with your total disagreement.  There are lots of mythos entities and races besides Cthuhlu.  There's no particular reason why Cthulhu should be that ubiquitous.  You can do that if you want but there are lots of other mythos entities that could be behind any number of those things.  Nyarlathotep springs to mind.  There probably are books of Cthulhu.  They are probably shelved next to the UFO conspiracy books, the books on the Illuminati, the Hollow Earth books and any number of other things that are actually true in that world but are considered to be crank nonsense by most people.  You can probably buy a book on MJ-12 just like you can in the real life except that there really is an MJ-12 conspiracy in the Delta Green world.  The problem in Delta Green would not be finding information.  With the internet, that's easy.  The problem would be sifting through all of the nonsense, misinformation and general internet noise to find the truth.
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Omega

Quote from: Future Villain Band;918033inbred, debased revelers in swamps is not something that survive to the present day.

You dont travel much do you? Even today, or especially today theres these towns all over the US that are isolated and more than a few hiding dirty little secrets and blood on their hands. Or just places that time forgot. Or any given place that looks like an Amish town. But isnt. And thats without some thing from beyond playing pick-up-sticks with your sanity.