Wonder what will happen if Kevin runs out of money in the middle of the lawsuit, and/or he loses the lawsuit and is forced to pay all of the other party's legal expenses.

Quote from: ggroy;391134Wonder what will happen if Kevin runs out of money in the middle of the lawsuit, and/or he loses the lawsuit and is forced to pay all of the other party's legal expenses.

Would that mean the gaming world becomes bereft of Rift?

Or is RIFT/Rifts then adrift?


- Ed C.

Quote from: Koltar;391135Would that mean the gaming world becomes bereft of Rift?

Or is RIFT/Rifts then adrift?

I doubt Kevin will give up control of RIFTS under any circumstances, as long as he is alive and breathing.  He probably won't file for chapter 7 personal bankruptcy either.

Most likely he'll go on further "funding drives", until nobody is willing to open up their wallets any longer.  After that, it's hard to say for sure what else he will think up of.

Quote from: Cylonophile;391129Kinda like someone putting a sign over the door to his bar that says "no gays allowed" and saying he respects the rights of gays, as long as they go off and be gay elsewhere...

Oh please, get over it. We all have RP preferences. There are people whose playstyle, I don't particularly care for, and who sap my enjoyment of a game, so I avoid them. I don't join their tables and I discourage them from joining mine. Deadalus has said basically the same thing, he's just a little more stringent about it. Expressing a preference for who you like to play with is not tantamount to discriminatory persecution. Grow up.

So what are you Palladium fans suggesting, exactly anyway?

Are you going to force him to play with you?

Quote from: J Arcane;391172Are you going to force him to play with you?

:teehee:

Quote from: Werekoala;391180:teehee:

Quote from: Cylonophile;391129Kinda like someone putting a sign over the door to his bar that says "no gays allowed" and saying he respects the rights of gays, as long as they go off and be gay elsewhere...

Bad analogy.  

A better one would be respecting gays but not having any desire to be fucked in the ass by one.

Quote from: J Arcane;391172So what are you Palladium fans suggesting, exactly anyway?

Are you going to force him to play with you?

Not at all.

But replace "Palladium fanboys" with "Blacks" or "Catholics" or "Role-players in general", and it comes off as a pretty bigoted statement, to some of us.

He's entitled to his opinion, just as I'm entitled to point and laugh at him for being stupid enough to actually express it publicly.

Quote from: Novastar;391205Not at all.

But replace "Palladium fanboys" with "Blacks" or "Catholics" or "Role-players in general", and it comes off as a pretty bigoted statement, to some of us.

He's entitled to his opinion, just as I'm entitled to point and laugh at him for being stupid enough to actually express it publicly.

Bullshit. If you're black or Catholic, that is unrelated to gameplay but "Palladium fanboy" is actually indicative of play-style and game preference, y'know the sorts of things that actually do matter when choosing with whom you're going to sit down and game. Crying persecution because someone doesn't share your game preferences is beyond pathetic; it's actually offensive and trivializing to genuine racism and discrimination. Like I said to Cy, grow the fuck up.

Quote from: Novastar;391205Not at all.

But replace "Palladium fanboys" with "Blacks" or "Catholics" or "Role-players in general", and it comes off as a pretty bigoted statement, to some of us.

He's entitled to his opinion, just as I'm entitled to point and laugh at him for being stupid enough to actually express it publicly.

That is the most ridiculous lack of perspective I've seen expressed in some time.  Bravo.

Are you saying that being black affects how good a gaming experience one will provide?

Quote from: two_fishes;391206Bullshit. If you're black or Catholic, that is unrelated to gameplay but "Palladium fanboy" is actually indicative of play-style and game preference, y'know the sorts of things that actually do matter when choosing with whom you're going to sit down and game. Crying persecution because someone doesn't share your game preferences is beyond pathetic; it's actually offensive and trivializing to genuine racism and discrimination. Like I said to Cy, grow the fuck up.

Actually some dick could argue that he doesn't want to game with a catholic because he doesn't want the catholic's religious views to affect gameplay, which is about as dumb as saying a guy who plays palladium's views will affect how he plays, say, D&D or shadowrun.

Quote from: two fishesBullshit. If you're black or Catholic, that is unrelated to gameplay but "Palladium fanboy" is actually indicative of play-style and game preference, y'know the sorts of things that actually do matter when choosing with whom you're going to sit down and game.

You're free to your opinion, but I've found racial and religious identity have an intristic effect on the personality of people in general, not just gamers.

And just to be clear, Daedalus said "anyone that plays Palladium", and immediately lumped that entire group into the category of CatPissMen.

I'm not gonna argue that Palladium doesn't have it's share of CatPissMen, but not everyone who's ever played, or even currently plays it, deserves to be lumped into that category.

QuoteCrying persecution because someone doesn't share your game preferences is beyond pathetic; it's actually offensive and trivializing to genuine racism and discrimination. Like I said to Cy, grow the fuck up.

And where did I cry about being oppressed?

I think he has a shitty opinion, nothing more, nothing less.

When Daedalus burns a cross on my front lawn, then I'll cry about being oppressed.

Quote from: J Arcane;391207That is the most ridiculous lack of perspective I've seen expressed in some time.  Bravo.

I try.

QuoteAre you saying that being black affects how good a gaming experience one will provide?

Not at all.
But I know some people that wouldn't let a black man sit at their game table, either.

Quote from: Cylonophile;391212Actually some dick could argue that he doesn't want to game with a catholic because he doesn't want the catholic's religious views to affect gameplay, which is about as dumb as saying a guy who plays palladium's views will affect how he plays, say, D&D or shadowrun.

Again I say, being a fan of Palladium is indicative of enjoying a manner of playing that Deadalus apparently finds distasteful, that is relevant to the way they play other games. Judging a person on that basis may be harsh, but it is not equivalent to discriminating against them on the basis of qualities unrelated to gaming (such as religion or skin colour.) If you can explain to me how being Catholic affects gameplay, I will revise my opinion that you are being a butthurt retard.

Quote from: Novastar;391215You're free to your opinion, but I've found racial and religious identity have an intristic effect on the personality of people in general, not just gamers.

For example, how about somebody who is a satan worshipper?

What intrinsic effect does a person being a practicing satanist, have on their personality?