Quote from: Zachary The FirstI'm going to go to my room and cry, as my beloved Rifts has already appeared on too many (though not as many as I feared) lists.
 
But rest assured, they will be tears of Mega-Damage.

Such is the cross to be borne by those in love of something over-the-top juvenille....and brave/foolish enough to come out of the closet. :haw: I recommend you study the Way of the Master, Dr. Rotwang, to see yourself through this dark hour not only unscathed but uplifted. :keke:

Quote from: Zachary The FirstI'm going to go to my room and cry, as my beloved Rifts has already appeared on too many (though not as many as I feared) lists.
 
But rest assured, they will be tears of Mega-Damage.

I feel your pain, though I'm not quite as big a fan as you are.

Yeah, Rifts is getting a bit of a hammering at the moment.

You know what the solution is, right?

Post your own votes and tear the suckers down with you.

In defense of RIFTS .....

 The most attractive regular customer we have is a RIFTS GM and player. She is brunette and has blue eyes, gorgeous smile, 29 years old, loves to paint miniatures,....... and you'll have to move to Ohio to find out more....

 Now If I ever try RIFTs - it will be because she asked me to try a game of it .

- E.W.C.

To help out Warthur, I'll rank my votes.

1. GURPS
2. Werewolf (both oWoD and nWoD)
3. HERO
4. Weapons of the Gods
5. Shadowrun 4th (and only cuz of the hacking and magic rules; I love everything else about it)

I quite like RIFTS.

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Quote from: RPGPunditI quite like RIFTS.

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What if it happens to be someone's favorite game?

Alright, let me try and put these in order.
1 = most hated.
10 = least hated.

1. NWoD Mage
Everything that was great and good about the old mage is shat upon from a great height to be replaced by an extremely boring and absolutist gameworld that is limp, insipid and unengaging. Its top of the hate parade because of the sheer love for the old version (pre revised).

2. NWoD Vampire
Much the same reasons for loathing the new Mage. Uninspired and unenthusiastic, plus I hated the graphic design.

3. OWoD Demon the Fallen
Yeah, lets contradict everything previously published in a way that makes absolutely no sense and reassert a Judeo Christian cosmology when we've been moving away from that since Vampire. That'll go down well.

4. Star Wars d20 (In fact, d20 for anything other than D&D really).
If anything outside D&D should have actually fit d20 you'd think it might be the quintessential space fantasy, but no. The slowness and boring predictability of d20 robs the game of any sense of urgency or heroics.

5. Heroes Unlimited deserves special mention for 'teh suxxor' as well.
Templated heroes, crapper than usual art and the Palladium system. Ugh.

6. RIFTS (In fact, all Palladium, though we managed to have fun with TMNT for a while).
Lose the system and turn down from 12 to 11 out of 10 on the dial and we'll talk.

7. CP3
Major disappointment on all counts, completely ignored the literary post cyberpunk movement and awful graphic design to boot. Ugh.

8. Manhunter
Strontium Dogs after being vampirised by some sort of awesome leeching bloodsucker leaving nothing cool in its wake.

9. Obsidian
Kult, but in the future. The rules bugged this piss out of me and it was too claustrophobic.

10. Rolemaster (though I like MERP, which was RM 'lite').
My god, its full of tables.

Quote from: WarthurYeah, Rifts is getting a bit of a hammering at the moment.

You know what the solution is, right?

Post your own votes and tear the suckers down with you.

Nah.  Rifts, Palladium, and Kevin S. are topics that seem to inspire a lot of forceful feelings, on one side, or the other.  No harm done.  I'm having fun, and I've gotten a lot of other folks to have fun along with me playing Rifts, PFRPG, Systems Failure, and other lines.  That's what really matters.

I'm gonna totally go on the record and say that while I don't think I, personally, would ever buy RIFTS, I can totally, totally see why people love it and I ain't gonna hold that against 'em.

One of my favorites movies is Xanadu.  See?

Quote from: Dr Rotwang!I'm gonna totally go on the record and say that while I don't think I, personally, would ever buy RIFTS, I can totally, totally see why people love it and I ain't gonna hold that against 'em.

One of my favorites movies is Xanadu.  See?

 Xanadu? ??

 Okay I don't feel so alone in my weirdness now.
 I loved the ELO music used in that movie.

- Ed

Quote from: KoltarI loved the ELO music used in that movie.

See, someone needs to do a science fiction role-playing game based on '70s and '80s rock album covers by bands like ELO, Journey, and Boston.

Quote from: John MorrowSee, someone needs to do a science fiction role-playing game based on '70s and '80s rock album covers by bands like ELO, Journey, and Boston.

 Make that corebook 20 bucks or less - and I'd buy it.


- Ed

Quote from: Dr Rotwang!I'm gonna totally go on the record and say that while I don't think I, personally, would ever buy RIFTS, I can totally, totally see why people love it and I ain't gonna hold that against 'em.

One of my favorites movies is Xanadu.  See?

I love the animated sequence in the middle.  And the unabashed mid-80's love for skating.

I miss my local skating rink.  It was called Roll-O-Rama.  Which should totally be the name of an RPG club, now that I think about it...

What's Xanadu?