Given that the majority of the GURPS line is now in .pdf form only, how are the GURPS fans out there using them?
iPads? Ebook readers? Printouts? FedEx Office? Computer only?
Any reliable way to print and bind these suckers?
To my amazement I walked into a number of GURPS 3rd books at the FLGS and they happened to have the two I still wanted to purchase (GURPS Old West and GURPS Arabian Nights). So, fortunately I wasn't forced to get them as pdf.
I have a couple of volumes printed out -- I took them to Staples and paid $15 or so to have them printed and perfect-bound with a nice cover on them.
I tend to use the PDFs themselves when prepping, and flip through the physical books during gameplay. For some reason, I hate stopping play to peer at a computer screen.
I don't have an iPad or a Kindle so I can't help you there.
Steve Jackson Games always has a load of 3e books for sale at Origins, 3 for $10. I just pick up a few books that way every year. I have just about everything I've ever wanted now.
Should have a bunch of gurps 3rd books going up on ebay soon(along with a bunch of other rpg books), i just need to take a few pictures before i bung them up for bids after which i'll post the link here and ona couple other sites for those interested.
It's interesting to note that only a single response has possibly been about any of the new GURPS 4th product that has been released as .pdf only.
Quote from: KrakaJak;466977It's interesting to note that only a single response has possibly been about any of the new GURPS 4th product that has been released as .pdf only.
I'm surprised we haven't yet seen "best way to enjoy GURPS books is IN THE GARBAGE HYUK HYUK"
I forgot to mention, I also print out pages of Pyramid and some of the smaller supplements, three-hole punch them, and put them in a binder -- for those times I don't need the entire volume.
Quote from: KrakaJak;466977It's interesting to note that only a single response has possibly been about any of the new GURPS 4th product that has been released as .pdf only.
So you were trolling for anti-Gurps 4th posts?
No, I was specifically assuming Gurps 4th .pdfs in the OP. What I got was how to buy 3e books cheap. Irony is fun.
I love PDF gaming books, and I buy a lot of GURPS stuff, or have in the past anyway.
I print them out and put them in sheet protectors, two sheets (back to back) for each sleeve. I then put them in three ring binders. I have all the Creatures of the Night done up in a single binder that way. Ditto the Banestorm stuff.
Quote from: KrakaJak;466977It's interesting to note that only a single response has possibly been about any of the new GURPS 4th product that has been released as .pdf only.
I prefer the real hardbacks for 4th edition, as well as the softcover and POD versions of some 4/e that SJ Games has made available.
Two years ago I picked up the printed versions of the first four 'Dungeon Fantasy' books for
GURPS 4/e at Gen Con.
- Ed C.
Quote from: KrakaJak;467014No, I was specifically assuming Gurps 4th .pdfs in the OP. What I got was how to buy 3e books cheap. Irony is fun.
Haven't made the switch to 4th. Don't see the point in it. All of the 4th edition stuff is either uninteresting or redundant. Plus, I hate pdfs.
Quote from: Machinegun Blue;467026Haven't made the switch to 4th. Don't see the point in it. All of the 4th edition stuff is either uninteresting or redundant. Plus, I hate pdfs.
NO...The 4th edition books make more sense and are better edited than the 3rd edition books.
There are also plenty of corrections, fixes, and rule changes between 3rd and 4trh. They streamlined things in a GOOD way.
- Ed C.
Quote from: KrakaJak;466855Best way to enjoy new GURPS books?
With beans and a Chianti? (http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-tsQlXasLpvM/TcTi0oBFAzI/AAAAAAAAFlE/VdXj5YfvfSs/s1600/hannibal_lecter-copy.jpg)
Sorry, couldn't resist. Back to your regularly scheduled thread... :D
Quote from: Koltar;467056NO...
The 4th edition books make more sense and are better edited than the 3rd edition books.
There are also plenty of corrections, fixes, and rule changes between 3rd and 4trh. They streamlined things in a GOOD way.
- Ed C.
That may be but all that isn't worth it to me.
Quote from: KrakaJak;466855Given that the majority of the GURPS line is now in .pdf form only, how are the GURPS fans out there using them?
iPads? Ebook readers? Printouts? FedEx Office? Computer only?
Any reliable way to print and bind these suckers?
To answer your question. I'm not too big on pdfs. I don't have a reader or anything portable like that. I have a few pdfs but in my experience, pdf = sitting unread on my hard drive.
So, let's say I do have some 4e material, I'd have FedEx/Kinkos print and spiral bind a copy for me if I intend to get any use at all out of it. Of course, that adds $20 or so dollars to the price of the book.
Quote from: Machinegun Blue;467080That may be but all that isn't worth it to me.
Are still using VHS as well?
You probably also have a mobile phone the size of a brick that has an extendable antenna.
The 4th edition of
GURPS (unlike some other company's "4th edition") is worth it enough to make the change.
- Ed C.
Quote from: Koltar;467125Are still using VHS as well?
You probably also have a mobile phone the size of a brick that has an extendable antenna.
Yeah, and you probably wear polyester shirts and Buster Browns and derby hats and drive a Gremlin and have a television manufactured during the Eisenhower administration! Bam! Sick burn!
That's just silly, man. Who cares if he doesn't buy 4E?
I stick with the classics.
(http://i.imgur.com/imfjF.jpg)
Quote from: J Arcane;467137I stick with the classics.
What, no first edition box set? Amateur. :P
Quote from: Koltar;467125Are still using VHS as well?
I've still got some tapes, yeah. I prefer Savage Worlds nowadays.
Quote from: KrakaJak;467142What, no first edition box set? Amateur. :P
I
STILL got my Box from first edition - but I run
GURPS 4th edition.
The old box is used as storage for Cardboard Heroes minis.
- Ed C.
Quote from: joewolz;467015I print them out and put them in sheet protectors, two sheets (back to back) for each sleeve. I then put them in three ring binders. I have all the Creatures of the Night done up in a single binder that way. Ditto the Banestorm stuff.
How long does that take you to do?
Yes, I realize that by asking this question I am admitting to being lazy.
I don't actually run GURPS anymore. I only pick up supplements that are generically useful and I don't care if they're 4th or 3rd edition. Has anything interesting in that respect come out for GURPS 4th yet?
Quote from: KrakaJak;467193How long does that take you to do?
Yes, I realize that by asking this question I am admitting to being lazy.
Depends on the book. I recently did it to a 180 page book. It took me about 20 minutes. I had a few bound at Kinko's but it was cheaper to do it this way and instead of waiting, I did the work myself in about the same amount of time.
Closing your eyes and wistfully pretending they were old 3e historical sourcebooks?
RPGPundit
Quote from: HombreLoboDomesticado;467211I don't actually run GURPS anymore. I only pick up supplements that are generically useful and I don't care if they're 4th or 3rd edition. Has anything interesting in that respect come out for GURPS 4th yet?
Depends on what you're looking for, I suppose.
There was a university study a while back that "proved scientifically" the best place to read any book was on the toilet. Apparantly it has something to do with relaxation and concentration being in balance.
Yeah and people wonder why higher education is so thoroughly mocked!
Quote from: KrakaJak;466855Given that the majority of the GURPS line is now in .pdf form only, how are the GURPS fans out there using them?
iPads? Ebook readers? Printouts? FedEx Office? Computer only?
Any reliable way to print and bind these suckers?
I use the PDFs to create cheat sheets by cutting and pasting from the PDF to Word. My group uses most of the GURPS combat options for our fantasy campaign and it isn't that complex provided you have a nice cheat sheet in front of you.
There is a ongoing thread on the SJGames about the use of ebooks with the PDFs. http://forums.sjgames.com/showthread.php?t=53559
In my opinion the most of books of 4e are better done than their predecessors. Fantasy in particular. GURPS Mysteries is a standout of the 4e line and useful to most any RPG game as it gives solid advice on running mystery plots.
Quote from: Machinegun Blue;467026Haven't made the switch to 4th. Don't see the point in it. All of the 4th edition stuff is either uninteresting or redundant. Plus, I hate pdfs.
Quote from: Koltar;467056NO...
The 4th edition books make more sense and are better edited than the 3rd edition books.
There are also plenty of corrections, fixes, and rule changes between 3rd and 4trh. They streamlined things in a GOOD way.
- Ed C.
I agree with Ed, GURPS 4th edition is overall just a better system and the books are generally more comprehensive and better written. The main thing problem with the line is that it is a high barrier for gamers to adopt it as their main system. For $100 in books you have to a lot of work as a referee to create a campaign.
The Dungeon Fantasy line helps but it would much better if they have a single powered by GURPS RPG for Fantasy, Horror, and Space. Each book implementing GURPS for that genre and giving the same range of material as the leading competitor for that genre. For Fantasy that means, Character creation, combat, magic, monsters, items, and possibly an adventure.
Sure someone threw it out there already but GaryCon!!!
Nothing but games. No side shows. No circus atmosphere. No special guests (unless they're bellying up to a table to play next to you).
Seriously I can't recommend this con enough. Great location. Decent room rates (75 bucks a night as I recall) and a veritable who's who from the golden age of gaming in attendance.
it's the only con I attend that I refuse to work a booth. Just non stop gaming.