Best version of D&D gets release date. All other editions hide in shame.

Piestrio · January 20, 2013, 12:34:31 PM

Quote from: K Peterson;620144And you're a filthy, filthy liar. And your fun is badwrong. And my D&D is better than your D&D. Plus, more vitriolic comments. :rant:

Rabble rabble rabble !

Sacrosanct · January 20, 2013, 12:42:45 PM

Quote from: Piestrio;620137You all suck.

Just FYI.

Personal attacks are against the rules. You know this. You are banned 1 day for personal attacks and another month for saying another edition but my own favorite is the best.

Oh, and this, because I hear these sorts of things are witty

thedungeondelver · January 20, 2013, 12:43:53 PM

speaking as an ardent supporter of the currently in-print and supported edition of D&D (AD&D, that is), I think it's great that they're throwing a bone to fans of out of print editions. I mean I'm sure it'll be limited edition, collectors only stuff and while some may buy them, lord knows it'll never, ever get played. Ever. I mean, we've moved past such atrocious game design. As if you could use "design" to describe how those books were written.

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Did I nail all the cliches the 4vengers used last January?

TristramEvans · January 20, 2013, 01:36:35 PM

The original 2nd edition Players Handbook was the best Players Handbook ever published for AD&D in any edition. The one they're reprinting here is not it. We used the 2ed PH with the 1E DMG, and 1E Unearthed Arcana.

Unfortunately, the art in MM for 2nd edition sucked. Well, the art in almost all MM's so far have sucked.

Of course, why I'd pay $60 for a reprint of books I can find in any used bookstore around town for 2 or 3 bucks I can't imagine anyways.

Ladybird · January 20, 2013, 03:33:33 PM

Quote from: David Johansen;620148Nonsense, it's such a small print run to please such a vanishingly small fanbase that WotC should be applauded for their dedication to pleasing everyone.

Not gonna lie, I bought the 1e reprints for collector / interest reasons, not expecting them to hit the table - although I'd certainly be willing to throw down with them if I got the chance.

On the other hand, if they're really slow sellers, that's one more set than would have been sold otherwise, and was one more vote for "reprint more stuff!" than WotC would have seen otherwise.

I didn't get the 3.5 reprints, because frankly I don't give a shit - there's nothing interesting there.

Raven · January 20, 2013, 03:48:41 PM

Quote from: TristramEvans;620166Of course, why I'd pay $60 for a reprint of books I can find in any used bookstore around town for 2 or 3 bucks I can't imagine anyways.

Well, these are supposedly premium quality, I assume with all the nice things that entails (heavy paper, NotQuiteLeather covers, elfskin bookmark, etc.) so I guess they're aimed more at collectors and 2e fans who are more hardcore than you and me.

Plus they're something like 35% off at Amazon. That's a sizeable discount. It's almost enough to sway me back towards 'buy'. Almost.

Bedrockbrendan · January 20, 2013, 04:23:25 PM

Quote from: soviet;620153But shitbox black cover retard edition? Fuck you Mike Mearls, no thanks

I will still buy it, but I have agree with the underlying sentiment here. I really don't understand what compelled them to re-issue the black revised editions. It may be an art issue like a few have suggested, but still, these are not the books most 2E fans have in mind when they think of the edition. To be honest though, I am not sure I even remember how much different the black books were from the originals (seem to recall some changes to specialist wizards). I pretty much used my original 1989 2E books the whole run, and the only black book I used (I did have the others though) was the MM.

Piestrio · January 20, 2013, 04:42:57 PM

Quote from: BedrockBrendan;620194I will still buy it, but I have agree with the underlying sentiment here. I really don't understand what compelled them to re-issue the black revised editions. It may be an art issue like a few have suggested, but still, these are not the books most 2E fans have in mind when they think of the edition. To be honest though, I am not sure I even remember how much different the black books were from the originals (seem to recall some changes to specialist wizards). I pretty much used my original 1989 2E books the whole run, and the only black book I used (I did have the others though) was the MM.

The difference is basically just errata and a bit of reorganization.

Endless Flight · January 20, 2013, 04:56:44 PM

Too rich for me. I'm not willing to even pay $40 for these reprints, especially being the revised books.

My copies of the originals are still in good shape.

misterguignol · January 20, 2013, 05:03:57 PM

Okay, so I've never seen the art inside the black-cover versions of the 2e books. Can anybody tell me what sucks about it?

(Granted, I didn't think the art in the original printings of the 2e books was great stuff.)

Also, paying $50 for the 2e DMG is laughable. It's a pretty terrible waste of paper.

Benoist · January 20, 2013, 05:06:40 PM

Here. Hitler autographs one of those black-border AD&D books.

soviet · January 20, 2013, 05:12:03 PM

Quote from: BedrockBrendan;620194I will still buy it, but I have agree with the underlying sentiment here. I really don't understand what compelled them to re-issue the black revised editions. It may be an art issue like a few have suggested, but still, these are not the books most 2E fans have in mind when they think of the edition. To be honest though, I am not sure I even remember how much different the black books were from the originals (seem to recall some changes to specialist wizards). I pretty much used my original 1989 2E books the whole run, and the only black book I used (I did have the others though) was the MM.

The black abortion books also look a bit like the player's option books that ruined 2e. They print these and the next thing you know they'll print those too and they get to ruin 2e a second time and THAT CAN'T HAPPEN

soviet · January 20, 2013, 05:12:58 PM

Quote from: Benoist;620207

Here. Hitler autographs one of those black-border AD&D books.

Even Hitler wouldn't sign black book 2e. He's evil, but not that evil.

elfandghost · January 20, 2013, 05:21:52 PM

I'd love this as the cover for the 2nd Edition Player's Handbook reprint:

But at those prices, and with them being the 1995 editions I'd rather go to ebay get the originals and pick up Legends and Lore and Tome of Magic for about the same cost of more likely less (if I didn't already have them!).

Melan · January 20, 2013, 05:28:46 PM

Quote from: misterguignol;620205Okay, so I've never seen the art inside the black-cover versions of the 2e books. Can anybody tell me what sucks about it?

It is in colour, but cheap in a bad way.