Well, BSG was informed by Star Wars, which is a nice way of saying "Let's get us somma that gravy!".  So anything that would do Star Wars with a minimum of hassle (sans The Force natch) would be a good choice.

So say we all.

*snrk*

Quote from: ImperatorIf you say that this Adama has no balls, you really have not watched even the intro credits. Adama is the badassest.

nBSG's Adama doesn't just have balls. He chews on brass ones for breakfast, with teeth of flint and fire.

Okay, that's too much.  But he is quite full of grit, that Eddy Olmos Adama.

EDITED to make sense because uh-bwuuuuh.

Exalted!!

Wait.. I was having an rpg.net flashback.

Actually

Savage Worlds + Silent Death for the win!

SW plugs into SD pretty easily and directly and SD is the best space opera fighter game ever written.  On the downside, there's no rules for anything bigger than an escort cruiser so the Galactica would have to be treated as a terrain feature with guns.

Quote from: David JohansenOn the downside, there's no rules for anything bigger than an escort cruiser so the Galactica would have to be treated as a terrain feature with guns.

That's  a drawback?  Generally, that's a pretty accurate model.

Where does one find Silent Death these days?

!i!

(P.S. Oh, and the game Renegade Legion pops to mind, though I never played it when it was in print.)

Quote from: RPGPunditLorne Green. The real Adama, the one that had balls; not like the apparently ineffectual pussy they have now.

Sorry Pundit, but you waaaay missed the mark there.  Of all the things to criticise nBSG over (and there are a few), Edward James Olmos is not one of them.  I loved Lorne Greene in the original, but the Adama in the new series is the absolute personification of grit and steel.

IMHO, if you accept that new series is not an attempt to re-make the original... if you watch it on it's own merits and not try and compare it to the original... if you treat it as a stand alone sci-fi series... it's damn good.  Particularly once you get past the mini series.

Quite possibly my second favourite sci fi series of all time, after Firefly.

GURPS , of course.

 Ignore the whacko religious-stuff and hallucinations - thats specific to 4 or 5 characters on the show.  The majority of the RagTag Fleet are having their own equally interesting aventures that could run by almost any really good game system that does generic space Sci-Fi stuff pretty well.

 Over on the SJG forums there have already been at least 20 threads where people are converting that setting to GURPS 4/e over the past 2 years. (Maybe double that , I don't always see every thread over there.)

Oh, and the Edward James Olmos Adama makes the Lorne Greene Adama look weak. Besides I gotta root for a guy whose frst name is Ed (the actor) and who wears glasses while ordering a nuclear missile strike.

- Ed C.

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Savage Worlds + Silent Death for the win!

SW plugs into SD pretty easily and directly and SD is the best space opera fighter game ever written.  On the downside, there's no rules for anything bigger than an escort cruiser so the Galactica would have to be treated as a terrain feature with guns.

That would be good, but I'd try to see if I could get by with the dogfight rules from the SW Pulp Toolkit before I went to Silent Death, unless I knew in advance my players were going to be heavily into that part.

SW is great for cybernetic dogs, bug people, and deranged robot gunslingers.


Edward James Olmos could never have kept those Cartwright boys under control. I'm not sure what you guys are thinkin.

Oh, I'm sure SW dog fights are adequate, but SD is perfect.  They even published rules for it in Starwars Gamer, so yes, we can play a squadron of X-wings engaging a squadron of Night Hawks.  I'd want Pit Vipers against A-Wings of course.

I can't recall Vipers having any kind of Torpedos so I'd probably make them a high thrust (17 maybe?) attrition fighter with two Med Lasers and decent armour.

Quote from: ImperatorIf you say that this Adama has no balls, you really have not watched even the intro credits. Adama is the badassest.

From what I've heard, he's a loser who's "deeply conflicted" and unsure of himself and the consequences of his actions, and in other words totally failing in all the leadership qualities and guiding wisdom that the original Adama had.

Also, I'm willing to bet anything (total stab in the dark having never watched the series ever) that anytime he does make a definitive decision where he's sure of himself it all goes horribly wrong (and I'd bet probably someone else, probably a female character's, idea would have been right and saved lives), and I'll bet dollars to donuts that he has a fucked up set of personal relationships with his family. How do I know this? Because dumbasses who try to "radically reinvent" series by being all "dark" and "iconoclastic" are very, very predictable.

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At least in the pilot movie, the New Adama was a political emo kid, and all problems he had directly related to family problems.

It was quite pathetic.

Sett,

 You're confusing "Apollo" with "Husker".

 Pundit,

 No, No , ...and NOPE.

Many times the female authority figure makes some VERY wrong decisions and Adama calls her on it .

 It might really help to watch the thing with an open mind.


 Oh, and I'd NEVER recommend a Forge-style game to simulate the show ....a thousand times NO on that one.  Hell, I'll never recommend a Forge RPG for anything.


As for complete disclosure :  As a young teen I watched the Original BSGweek to week, two thirds the way through it I felt very disappointed. The writers of the oBSG wasted so many oppurtunities.


- Ed C.

Quote from: RPGPunditFrom what I've heard, he's a loser who's "deeply conflicted" and unsure of himself and the consequences of his actions, and in other words totally failing in all the leadership qualities and guiding wisdom that the original Adama had.

No, it isn't. He makes hard decissions, and carry them to the end. He also have ethics, though, so sometimes he makes things that he would prefer not to be obliged to.
 
Adama makes people want to be better. Heck, I want to serve in the BSG right now. Under his command.
 
Point for you in one thing: Adama and Apollo have a bad relationship. But not in the way you think.

Uh huh. Whatever. Lorne Greene was the guy who LED. The guy who was RIGHT. He was the one who always held the high ground, who always guided everyone and kept everything together.

Your new adama is a morally-relativist twisted-copy just like your Starbuck, your Boomer, and your Apollo (and, I would presume your Tigh if he even exists); all just making a mockery of the original series by making it into the exact moral OPPOSITE of what the original series was.

The original series was all about humanity seeking hope against impossible odds. The new series is apparently about humans being suicide bombers, everyone betraying everyone else, men being wimps, women smoking cigars and being the only ones allowed to be tough, and the Cylons being not "really bad" guys.

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Quote from: RPGPundit.................

The original series was all about humanity seeking hope against impossible odds. ................

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...and the current, better written series is  also exactly that.

Just much more believable.


- Ed C.