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Best rules lite “Star Wars” game?

Started by weirdguy564, April 18, 2023, 05:47:05 PM

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S'mon

Quote from: weirdguy564 on April 23, 2023, 12:48:28 PM
Quote from: S'mon on April 19, 2023, 11:35:07 AM
I like how the stormtrooper Expy in the Mini Six version, the Centurion, has 18 dice of stats and is a badass.  ;D

I'm thinking this is meant to be a player character template.  Actual cannon fodder grunts will probably be the stats from the sample characters, probably a 2 asterisk mook.

It's over with the villains on the top right though, not with the PC templates.
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weirdguy564

I just found this on Drivethru.  Black Star RPG by Lakeside Games.  If I'm correct this game was released on May 11, 2023, so two weeks ago at the time I write this.

https://www.drivethrurpg.com/m/product/437327

It's not free, but it's only $5.  It's also rules light at 50-ish pages long. 

I don't know too much about it, but it definitely is a Star Wars game with mystics which can use Beamswords and has access to a power called Deflect. 

One cool feature is how characters are created. The game has 10 archetypes like Diplomat, or Mystic, or Outlaw.  Your character picks two, and those are the abilities you can pick from.  So you're never just a Mystic (Jedi), but a Mystic Pilot, or Mystic Outlaw, or Outlaw Diplomat.  I like that. 
I'm glad for you if you like the top selling game of the genre.  Me, I like the road less travelled, and will be the player asking we try a game you've never heard of.

Slipshot762

D6 is my jam.
I will not seriously entertain anyone suggesting D6 is not rules lite. Like you might as well attend a klan rally and try to sell them on interracial dating.

It's so rules light that to run d6 fantasy for dnd drones i had to attach most of osric on top of it and then lower myself to running dragonlance.

motherfucking dragonlance.

not rules lite...gtfo.

Ocule

Quote from: tenbones on April 19, 2023, 07:00:03 PM
Fan made SWADE Star Wars is free. It's excellent, and since it's Savage Worlds it's very tweakable to your tastes.

Core Companion
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZS6qxH_0MG8TTVAF9e0fw8Qh7FjbAMNy/view

Planetary Guide
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Y85MBcaTyizD7G3Sz1mAxEOIYMEuO8wd/view

Tapani Campaign - a free entire campaign
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1lUKbytrZNDoza-xBDcvVSbFpX5OKMu7q

He's also made a ton of one-shots.

Core companion link doesn't work


Also imma put out there FFG Star Wars if you don't mind proprietary dice it's actually pretty good.

Savage worlds can do it fantastically, if you're playing remotely it might be troublesome to use the action deck since it relies on a single deck of poker cards.

Never played weg or any of the d20 versions
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Chris24601

Quote from: Ocule on May 23, 2023, 12:21:42 PM
Quote from: tenbones on April 19, 2023, 07:00:03 PM
Fan made SWADE Star Wars is free. It's excellent, and since it's Savage Worlds it's very tweakable to your tastes.

Core Companion
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZS6qxH_0MG8TTVAF9e0fw8Qh7FjbAMNy/view

Planetary Guide
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Y85MBcaTyizD7G3Sz1mAxEOIYMEuO8wd/view

Tapani Campaign - a free entire campaign
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1lUKbytrZNDoza-xBDcvVSbFpX5OKMu7q

He's also made a ton of one-shots.

Core companion link doesn't work


Also imma put out there FFG Star Wars if you don't mind proprietary dice it's actually pretty good.

Savage worlds can do it fantastically, if you're playing remotely it might be troublesome to use the action deck since it relies on a single deck of poker cards.

Never played weg or any of the d20 versions
Foundry has plenty of smooth plug-ins for handling SWADE on its VTT.

LeibyChristopher

#65
The link to the Swade Star Wars Core Companion is outdated. I changed it on May 4th when I released the new Version 3.0, as tenbones noted I have a bunch of other stuff for it also. If your actually interested it's easy to find with a Google search for "Savage Worlds Star Wars Companion" the post in the PEG forums homebrew section is usually first or second.. it trades places with the Facebook group for Savage Worlds Star Wars.

I'd post direct links to both... But I understand direct links to other groups and forums is frowned upon.

You can find it here
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1sGKBBSleuIGBVzM50tIEBRBBMffb-_JO/view

weirdguy564

#66
After a couple of days of reading over the Dark Star game I've come to a few points worth talking about.

1.  It's more complex than you would think. At this point I would say old West End Games D6 is simpler.   Complexity isn't always bad, though I'm not a fan of that. 

2.  It combines stats and skills into a list of 10 things, and they're just called Abilities.  Intelligence is one, while Brawling is another.  Technically there are 11 Abilities, as Jedi/Force users also have Power as an Ability.   Also, the number listed is the dice bonus added to a 2D6 roll. 

3.  Player Facing dice rolls.   This means you roll to attack, but when NPC's go after you, then you also roll one of your 10 (11 if you're a Jedi) Abilities to prevent it. 

4.  Failing a roll isn't the end.  There are three options to succeed, but it'll cost you.

5.  Dice rolls are 2D6+Ability.  Advantage and Disadvantage are used a lot.  So you roll 3D6, pick the best/worst two dice+Ability, and get a 9 or better. 

It's a nice game.  But I am not sold it's better than good old D6 Star Wars from WEG.
I'm glad for you if you like the top selling game of the genre.  Me, I like the road less travelled, and will be the player asking we try a game you've never heard of.

Theory of Games

Great thread! I'm gearing-up to run a 'Star Wars' one-shot/maybe campaign and while SW 1e from WEG seems to be the system, does Pundit's d20 Star Adventurer have space-wizards/Jedi? Couldn't find a review.
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rgalex

Three of the classes are Psychic Adept, Psychic Mystic and Psychic Warrior with a list of 20 psychic powers.  I think it would be possible to run a Star Wars game using those for your Jedi.  There are also laser swords. 

weirdguy564

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Quote from: Theory of Games on May 26, 2023, 12:30:38 PM
Great thread! I'm gearing-up to run a 'Star Wars' one-shot/maybe campaign and while SW 1e from WEG seems to be the system, does Pundit's d20 Star Adventurer have space-wizards/Jedi? Couldn't find a review.

Yes. 

The class list (and specialist sub-class) of Star Adventurer is this.

1.  Brute (Crusader, Mercenary, Raider)
2.  Explorer (Ace Pilot, Adventurer)
3.  Psychic Adept (Primitive Psychic, Renegade Psychic)
4.  Psychic Mystic (Mystic Scholar, Order Psychic)
5.  Psychic Warrior (Dark Psychic, Psychic Knight)
6.  Rogue (Bounty Hunter, Scum)
7.  Technician (Investigator, Lore Master, Scientist)
8.  Warrior (Gang Enforcer, Hit-man, Officer, Stormtrooper)

Don't get too excited by all of that.  Mainly these destinations just mean a +1, 2, or 3 on a few skills.

Psychic Warriors are the only guys to deflect blaster shots.  It's a class ability of the knight and dark knight.  Mystics and Adepts are more like traditional sci-fi Psychics like Star Trek Deanna Troi or Psi-Corps from Babylon-5, and are identical except for ability requirements of a 9 in WIS vs a 9 in INT.  Many of these similar sub-classes are functionally identical.  A knight vs a dark knight only differ by one or two skill points, aka 5%.  That's it.  Those are minuscule changes.  Is it bad or good that way?    You decide.

Overall, Star Adventurer is a very traditional D20/D&D style game with D20 skill rolls vs Armor class.  The three things that stand out is the random tables for leveling up, and the game has a skill list, and there is vehicle design and combat rules.   The big negative is that there is NO help for the GM.  It doesn't even have a glossary of terms for simple things like what DEX is, or pre-generated bad guys.  You just need know what to do.  This means it's not a game for novices. 
I'm glad for you if you like the top selling game of the genre.  Me, I like the road less travelled, and will be the player asking we try a game you've never heard of.