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Title: Best Fantasy City Supplements
Post by: crkrueger on October 29, 2014, 05:50:19 PM
Entire city, Big Book of Taverns, website with random generators, cool maps, whatever.  List your favorite city supplements.

Site with some generators. (http://donjon.bin.sh/fantasy/inn/)
Massive list of city books, with links to books for other genres. (http://rpggeek.com/geeklist/59296/inexorable-cities-city-sourcebooks-fantasy-rpgs)
Title: Best Fantasy City Supplements
Post by: Will on October 29, 2014, 06:57:24 PM
I enjoyed Hollowfaust: City of Necromancers

Review here: http://www.dndarchive.com/content/hollowfaust-city-necromancers

An interesting example of non-evil depiction of necromancers.
Title: Best Fantasy City Supplements
Post by: nightwind1 on October 29, 2014, 07:58:09 PM
The Free City of Haven, for Thieves Guild from Gamelords.
Title: Best Fantasy City Supplements
Post by: Ladybird on October 29, 2014, 08:23:26 PM
Blacksand, nominally for Advanced Fighting Fantasy (2e, although Blacksand! for 1e is similar); it's a grimy, slightly mad, fantasy pirate city that's very, very tightly controlled by it's guilds and it's authoritarian ruler; there's plenty of wierd to be had, plenty of politics to get into, but it also still feels like a place people could really live in.

Also, a Discworld encyclopedia. Ankh-Morpork is a fascinatingly odd place with it's own distinctly bizarre culture, that could cope with PC's really well.
Title: Best Fantasy City Supplements
Post by: S'mon on October 29, 2014, 08:24:12 PM
The JG OD&D City State of the Invincible Overlord version I got off RPGnow was great, better than the 3e Necromancer Games version. Other than that I haven't seen many city books I'm too happy with - not too impressed by 4e D&D Neverwinter Campaign Setting or 2e AD&D City of Greyhawk, say. 1e AD&D Lankhmar: City of Adventure was pretty good. I ordered Vornheim from Paizo but they were out of stock. :(
Title: Best Fantasy City Supplements
Post by: dragoner on October 29, 2014, 09:00:13 PM
Thieves' World has been the best I have seen so far.
Title: Best Fantasy City Supplements
Post by: Will on October 29, 2014, 09:24:51 PM
Paizo's Shackled City!

Which is a single city plus series of adventures in the city going 1-20 (I think).

Loads of material, though I don't own it -- I was in a campaign run using it. It did seem to suffer from 'padding word count.' (with long stupid lists of things, sometimes)
Title: Best Fantasy City Supplements
Post by: JeremyR on October 29, 2014, 09:58:00 PM
The ones from White Wolf for their Scarred Lands d20 setting were pretty good. Hollowfaust and Shelzar both felt like really weird, creepy fantasy cities. The first with undead and the second sleaze.
Title: Best Fantasy City Supplements
Post by: Larsdangly on October 29, 2014, 10:01:48 PM
Pavis and the Big Rubble sets the curve for me.
Title: Best Fantasy City Supplements
Post by: The Butcher on October 29, 2014, 10:36:18 PM
I love the Palladium Fantasy Old Ones supplement. Kevin's a disciple of the JG crew and it shows.
Title: Best Fantasy City Supplements
Post by: Spinachcat on October 30, 2014, 02:40:02 AM
Zak S' Vornheim is on my to-buy list. I flipped through a copy and I was impressed. Here's two reviews:

http://www.rpg.net/reviews/archive/15/15982.phtml
http://grognardia.blogspot.com/2011/05/review-vornheim.html

Quote from: The Butcher;795051I love the Palladium Fantasy Old Ones supplement. Kevin's a disciple of the JG crew and it shows.

Old Ones is a good book. BTW, Kevin Siembieda is ex-JG crew. His artwork is in a number of their products and JG's Pegasus magazine.
Title: Best Fantasy City Supplements
Post by: S'mon on October 30, 2014, 03:07:37 AM
Oh, Paizo do 64-page city books - I have Korvosa, Magnimar & Kaer Maga. Kaer Maga is the weirdest and probably best.
Title: Best Fantasy City Supplements
Post by: pbj44 on October 30, 2014, 08:39:52 AM
Cities by Midkemia Press for its endless amount of fun urban adventure hooks.
Title: Best Fantasy City Supplements
Post by: ZWEIHÄNDER on October 30, 2014, 09:40:21 AM
Dark Streets, by Cakebread and Walton, is the tits. It's basically Georgian London with Cthulhu worshippers on the loose. It tells the tale of the Bow Street Runners, the world's first organized police force, in the wake of the Gin Craze.

It's brilliant. It even received a glowing review by the Pundit: http://therpgpundit.blogspot.com/2013/10/rpgpundit-reviews-dark-streets.html
Title: Best Fantasy City Supplements
Post by: Omega on October 30, 2014, 10:02:55 AM
Flying Buffalos Citybook series. Still in print even.

Dragon Magazine had some city generation articles way back. Pinning them down may be a hassle.
Title: Best Fantasy City Supplements
Post by: Frey on October 30, 2014, 10:10:56 AM
Marienburg, Sold Down the River for WFRP1.
Title: Best Fantasy City Supplements
Post by: Larsdangly on October 30, 2014, 11:03:41 AM
I'll endorse the suggestion above re. the Palladium Fantasy supplement, 'Old Ones'. It is an incredible resource.
Title: Best Fantasy City Supplements
Post by: Skyrock on October 30, 2014, 03:04:15 PM
"Town" (http://www222.pair.com/sjohn/fief.htm) by Lisa J. Steele (and edited by S. John Ross) - a very good system-neutral sourcebook for those who want to play in actual medieval cities, or want to include more actual medieval elements in their fantasy cities.

Quote from: Ladybird;795015Blacksand, nominally for Advanced Fighting Fantasy (2e, although Blacksand! for 1e is similar); it's a grimy, slightly mad, fantasy pirate city that's very, very tightly controlled by it's guilds and it's authoritarian ruler; there's plenty of wierd to be had, plenty of politics to get into, but it also still feels like a place people could really live in.
I second that. The original Blacksand is more to the point and better at the general stuff about building fantasy cities, while the 2e update offers more detail and some cool methods for random features and their placement.

It is one of the few cases where having the sourcebook versions of both editions is worth it.
Title: Best Fantasy City Supplements
Post by: selfdeleteduser00001 on October 30, 2014, 05:01:02 PM
Quote from: Omega;795121Flying Buffalos Citybook series. Still in print even.


These, genuinely system free and yet with enough system for any game.
Title: Best Fantasy City Supplements
Post by: RPGPundit on November 02, 2014, 02:58:46 AM
Dark Streets and Vornheim are both very good, in very different ways; but for me, Blacksand is still the hallmark by which I compare all other city books. It's utterly marvelous.
Title: Best Fantasy City Supplements
Post by: soltakss on November 02, 2014, 05:00:54 AM
Quote from: Larsdangly;795045Pavis and the Big Rubble sets the curve for me.

Yes, I normally compare city writeups with Pavis & Big Rubble and have yet to find anything better.
Title: Best Fantasy City Supplements
Post by: Omega on November 02, 2014, 06:46:36 PM
Much as I may malign WW/SS's d20 Gamma World. Its city as a character system was pretty neet.

One aspect that could be adapted to any other game is this...

Fringe signs of habitation. Or signs of what type of community you are entering. Or signs of what sorts of "feats" the town has.

IE: A town with the infamous feat - youd notice visitors being nervous or showing respect around the townspeople for some reason. A library signs would be a building with books, scholars entering and leaving. Or a town with an advanced smith you might see townspeople walking around well armed and the shops have better crafted or more advanced gear for sale.

As said elsewhere. Some day I'll sit down and adapt this thing to 5e and a fantasy setting.
Title: Best Fantasy City Supplements
Post by: Nerzenjäger on November 02, 2014, 07:16:42 PM
I always liked Flying Buffalo's Citybook series. They had these cool locales you could just throw into any random city environment to make it a tad special.
Title: Best Fantasy City Supplements
Post by: Phillip on November 04, 2014, 12:53:52 PM
Quote from: pbj44;795110Cities by Midkemia Press for its endless amount of fun urban adventure hooks.

I'll second that. For more detailed bits, Flying Buffalo/Blade's Citybook series is rich in interesting creations.
Title: Best Fantasy City Supplements
Post by: Rincewind1 on November 04, 2014, 03:18:23 PM
Quote from: Frey;795122Marienburg, Sold Down the River for WFRP1.

Never can get my paws on it sadly, but I do recommend it's predecessor, Middenheim, The City of White Wolf.

Also, I'd highly recommend Bookhounds of London and The Occult Guide to London. Very well made books, useful even if you don't plan to go with Cthulhu Mythos, but want to set action in 30's London.
Title: Best Fantasy City Supplements
Post by: trechriron on November 05, 2014, 12:30:35 AM
Harn World! The city maps are gorgeous, plenty of detail in the modules, and they are designed as perfect sand box elements, with little plot seeds and current events to spice it up if so desired.