So, you guys will have noticed by now that I was suspended on Twitter. The stated reason for this is that the BroSR users mass-reported me as "threatening violence", specifically referring to a tweet I did to major anti-semite BroSR poster "bdubs", who was one of the brigaders and claimed it was hypocritical of me to be blocking brosr accounts as the "free speech" guy, to which I responded "sorry, nazis only get the hammer" and then immediately blocked him. The 'hammer' was meant to refer to the ban hammer, of course, but they used that one word as an excuse to mass report and try to have me suspended for 'violent threats'.
I've already filed an appeal, but what you guys could do that would be helpful would be to get regular OSR gamers on twitter to make posts mentioning the correct twitter address (I think it would be @twittersupport but if you think it's something else let me know) calling for me to be reinstated and pointing out that the people reporting against me were doing so in bad faith. That would be really helpful. Spread the word.
On a related note. Any BroSR poster or any poster supportive of the BroSR on theRPGsite will be immediately banned for promoting neo-nazi ideology.
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Should be an easy appeal. I don't do Twitter cuz it's the same pizza as Big Purp. But I get you need to be there and stuff. Didn't know the BrOSR had any real following. Wait, didn't you have Jeffro on IC? ???
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Quote from: Theory of Games on June 29, 2023, 12:57:33 PM
Should be an easy appeal. I don't do Twitter cuz it's the same pizza as Big Purp. But I get you need to be there and stuff. Didn't know the BrOSR had any real following. Wait, didn't you have Jeffro on IC? ???
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Yes, we did have Jeffro on IC, before he exposed himself with openly anti-semitic tweets on twitter.
I just read the tweet from Diversity & Dragons asking about you being banned. He asked if anyone knows what happened.
I figured all of the Brosr flagged your tweets.
Quote from: Jason Coplen on June 29, 2023, 01:02:03 PM
I just read the tweet from Diversity & Dragons asking about you being banned. He asked if anyone knows what happened.
I figured all of the Brosr flagged your tweets.
Yup. They no doubt mass flagged. Spread the word on twitter please, call for my suspension to be lifted. Make sure everyone knows who did this.
Seems to me that the anti-fascists never actually go against real fascists and nazis. Probably too afraid of getting their asses beaten.
Quote from: brettmb on June 29, 2023, 01:24:50 PM
Seems to me that the anti-fascists never actually go against real fascists and nazis. Probably too afraid of getting their asses beaten.
That's absolutely true. There's no doubt a bunch of Wokists who will be cheering me being banned for standing up to the people they're afraid to.
What's the brOSR? I not very familiar with it.
Quote from: brettmb on June 29, 2023, 01:24:50 PM
Seems to me that the anti-fascists never actually go against real fascists and nazis. Probably too afraid of getting their asses beaten.
That's because they're pro-fascists who don't know what they're talking about. If you're a pack of violent political thugs opposing the democratic government, you're pro-fascist.
Quote from: blackstone on June 29, 2023, 01:41:37 PM
What's the brOSR? I not very familiar with it.
I've heard the term used by Jeffro Johnson, who Pundit did a video with back in 2018.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0wvNlUJW68
Johnson published a book called "Appendix N: The Literary History of Dungeons & Dragons". He pushes for AD&D played a particular way.
https://www.amazon.com/stores/Jeffro-Johnson/author/B01NCWLNRI
I'm not sure about how he's a nazi.
Incidentally I see that there are people claiming that I'm lying, that I was blocked on twitter for having sockpuppets or other things.
Here, Twitter literally told me:
For the record I have NEVER used a sockpuppet on Twitter (or anywhere else). None of the accounts that certain people are claiming are sockpuppets of me are real. If I were to guess, they're being created either by the BroSR racists or by some opportunist who is already mentally ill from stalking me, like Poncho Goblin (who seems to conveniently "discover" these accounts even before the accounts post anything).
So I'd be very grateful if people will refer to the proof I shared above if you see anyone on twitter claiming I was banned for sockpuppeting.
Quote from: jhkim on June 29, 2023, 02:15:18 PM
Quote from: blackstone on June 29, 2023, 01:41:37 PM
What's the brOSR? I not very familiar with it.
I've heard the term used by Jeffro Johnson, who Pundit did a video with back in 2018.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0wvNlUJW68
Johnson published a book called "Appendix N: The Literary History of Dungeons & Dragons". He pushes for AD&D played a particular way.
https://www.amazon.com/stores/Jeffro-Johnson/author/B01NCWLNRI
I'm not sure about how he's a nazi.
Jeffro Johnson came out as a full-blown Anti-Semite on Twitter, posting openly anti-semitic tweets including one that directly blamed a "Cabal of Jews" for why people don't like his manly pulp fiction stories.
This was obviously after we had him on Inappropriate Characters, where I just thought of him as a cult leader of a weirdo group of anti-OSR fundamentalists. I had at one point asked him point-blank whether he had any racist or anti-semitic affiliations and he denied it, and I made the mistake of not investigating further.
In retrospect, its pretty clear he was always this way. I'm going to do a video, probably (or talk about it on Inappropriate Characters) where I explain how for YEARS now Jeffro has been associated with Neo-Nazis.
Anti-Semitism goes way beyond Nazis & Neo-Nazis ofc.
Quote from: jhkim on June 29, 2023, 02:15:18 PM
Quote from: blackstone on June 29, 2023, 01:41:37 PM
What's the brOSR? I not very familiar with it.
I've heard the term used by Jeffro Johnson, who Pundit did a video with back in 2018.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0wvNlUJW68
Johnson published a book called "Appendix N: The Literary History of Dungeons & Dragons". He pushes for AD&D played a particular way.
https://www.amazon.com/stores/Jeffro-Johnson/author/B01NCWLNRI
I'm not sure about how he's a nazi.
I don't KNOW that he's a nazi or some other flavor of socialist or maybe a muslim. What I do know because I saw it with my own eyes is that the guy IS openly anti-semitic (a PoV shared by many other flavors of socialism and by muslims) and that many of his followers are anti-semitic also.
Quote from: S'mon on June 29, 2023, 03:58:02 PM
Anti-Semitism goes way beyond Nazis & Neo-Nazis ofc.
^This^.
One can be racist, and still think the Nazi's were idiots.
So Pundit is banning discussing a specific way of playing D&D on RPGsite because someone said something on Twitter. Seriously?
Basically the same thing that happened to ACKS but it's now happening here.
I've always been against purity test of RPGers and I still am.
You've known you were living on borrowed time there for quite awhile.
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Quote from: hedgehobbit on June 29, 2023, 06:12:10 PM
So Pundit is banning discussing a specific way of playing D&D on RPGsite because someone said something on Twitter. Seriously?
Basically the same thing that happened to ACKS but it's now happening here.
I've always been against purity test of RPGers and I still am.
Not what I understood, IF I'm getting it right you CAN'T be part of the BrOSR or post in support of them. I don't see anything about the playstyle.
Quote from: GeekyBugle on June 29, 2023, 08:45:53 PM
IF I'm getting it right you CAN'T be part of the BrOSR or post in support of them. I don't see anything about the playstyle.
Seems kind of like a distinction without a difference? What is the distinction between discussion or support of a playstyle and affiliation with a group advocating that playstyle? It's not like there's some member's list, right?
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Quote from: GeekyBugle on June 29, 2023, 08:45:53 PM
IF I'm getting it right you CAN'T be part of the BrOSR or post in support of them. I don't see anything about the playstyle.
Seems kind of like a distinction without a difference? What is the distinction between discussion or support of a playstyle and affiliation with a group advocating that playstyle? It's not like there's some member's list, right?
So, when I'm posting to criticize the new rule change from WotC I'm really posting in their support?
Or when I say that X new rule/mechanic is a good thing I'm really saying that I'm okay with everything else who ever published it does/says?
For example in a thread people have said they love how GURPS managed weapons, ergo they approve SJG position in donations to an abortist "charity"?
Or when someone says they like dogs they are evidently in alignment with the nazis because Hitler also liked dogs.
Is it clearer now?
Quote from: GeekyBugle on June 29, 2023, 09:23:56 PM
So, when I'm posting to criticize the new rule change from WotC I'm really posting in their support?
...
Is it clearer now?
No, because you're illustrating my point. I am not agreeing with the idea that supporting a BroSR playstyle is tantamount to membership, I'm asking how the policy is enforced. Pundit said: "Any BroSR poster or any poster supportive of the BroSR on theRPGsite will be immediately banned for promoting neo-nazi ideology."
If the only thing I can tell that unifies the broSR is their advocacy for a particular playstyle to the exclusion of others, then how does one identify their support or membership other than playstyle? If I advocate for 1:1 time, am I broSR or acting in support of them? I don't think so and I don't think that's what's intended here by Pundit, but I don't know how the policy works without some measure of guilt by association.
OMG, where will we be able to.find your voice now? Mastadon? :o
;D j/k I know you're here.
:o Or are you really here? Is any of this real?
:-[ Hold me, I'm scared!
So the only time I've heard of the BROSR was on a Youtube channel called The Joy of Wargaming, which covers minis gaming and old D&D. I've watched a fair bit of that channel and, while the guy is obviously a conservative Christian (and not above poking the liberal bear a bit), I've never seen anything remotely offensive on the channel. Whether that's because it's fine or if I just wasn't paying attention I don't know. Does anybody care to comment on the channel in question?
I've posted on Twitter, asking for the ban to be re-examined as I believe it's unfair.
I don't agree with Pundit on everything, but I value his voice and don't want him to be silenced for what's actually occurred.
Quote from: S'mon on June 29, 2023, 03:58:02 PM
Anti-Semitism goes way beyond Nazis & Neo-Nazis ofc.
Yes, I know. There's left-wing Antisemitism, lots of it. There's also Christian Nationalist Antisemitism, which I suspect is a significant number of the BroSR (Jeffro also claimed that "non christians can never understand D&D"). The latter overlap a lot with racial nationalists though.
Quote from: hedgehobbit on June 29, 2023, 06:12:10 PM
So Pundit is banning discussing a specific way of playing D&D on RPGsite because someone said something on Twitter. Seriously?
Basically the same thing that happened to ACKS but it's now happening here.
I've always been against purity test of RPGers and I still am.
I'm not banning any kind of way of playing D&D on theRPGsite. If you want to REALLY play AD&D1e Rules-as-Written and talk about that you're welcome to.
Quote from: Opaopajr on June 29, 2023, 09:54:00 PM
OMG, where will we be able to.find your voice now? Mastadon? :o
;D j/k I know you're here.
:o Or are you really here? Is any of this real?
:-[ Hold me, I'm scared!
Not really sure yet. At the moment, I plan to post a bit more on theRPGsite, on the Inglorious OSR group on Mewe, on the Conservative OSR group on Facebook, and probably to be more active on Youtube.
Ironically, I was mulling about how to work out doing subscriptions or videos on Twitter before this, trying to figure out what I could offer there. Now that's out obviously, but who knows, I might see if I can set up Youtube Subs, or if I go really crazy maybe actually start using that Patreon I have always had for people who just wanted to throw money at me.
Quote from: Brigman on June 29, 2023, 10:59:42 PM
I've posted on Twitter, asking for the ban to be re-examined as I believe it's unfair.
I don't agree with Pundit on everything, but I value his voice and don't want him to be silenced for what's actually occurred.
Thank you, I really appreciate that! referencing @twittersupport or even @elonmusk might help. You never know.
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Quote from: Opaopajr on June 29, 2023, 09:54:00 PM
OMG, where will we be able to.find your voice now? Mastadon? :o
;D j/k I know you're here.
:o Or are you really here? Is any of this real?
:-[ Hold me, I'm scared!
Not really sure yet. At the moment, I plan to post a bit more on theRPGsite, on the Inglorious OSR group on Mewe, on the Conservative OSR group on Facebook, and probably to be more active on Youtube.
Ironically, I was mulling about how to work out doing subscriptions or videos on Twitter before this, trying to figure out what I could offer there. Now that's out obviously, but who knows, I might see if I can set up Youtube Subs, or if I go really crazy maybe actually start using that Patreon I have always had for people who just wanted to throw money at me.
Patreon has been co-opted for years now, you'd be better off switching to subscribestar.
Quote from: GeekyBugle on June 30, 2023, 12:58:17 AM
Quote from: RPGPundit on June 30, 2023, 12:49:58 AM
Quote from: Opaopajr on June 29, 2023, 09:54:00 PM
OMG, where will we be able to.find your voice now? Mastadon? :o
;D j/k I know you're here.
:o Or are you really here? Is any of this real?
:-[ Hold me, I'm scared!
Not really sure yet. At the moment, I plan to post a bit more on theRPGsite, on the Inglorious OSR group on Mewe, on the Conservative OSR group on Facebook, and probably to be more active on Youtube.
Ironically, I was mulling about how to work out doing subscriptions or videos on Twitter before this, trying to figure out what I could offer there. Now that's out obviously, but who knows, I might see if I can set up Youtube Subs, or if I go really crazy maybe actually start using that Patreon I have always had for people who just wanted to throw money at me.
Patreon has been co-opted for years now, you'd be better off switching to subscribestar.
Well, you might be right. It's been fine though, for giving me 25-35 dollars a month every month from people who either already bought every book of mine or never wanted to buy a book of mine but still wanted to support my efforts in exchange for absolutely nothing; other than my thanks.
Quote from: rkhigdon on June 29, 2023, 10:46:07 PM
So the only time I've heard of the BROSR was on a Youtube channel called The Joy of Wargaming, which covers minis gaming and old D&D. I've watched a fair bit of that channel and, while the guy is obviously a conservative Christian (and not above poking the liberal bear a bit), I've never seen anything remotely offensive on the channel. Whether that's because it's fine or if I just wasn't paying attention I don't know. Does anybody care to comment on the channel in question?
He says he's broSR but I don't think he's the same person that Pundit was talking about. I personally haven't seen anything particularly offensive on that channel and I've watched a fair bit of it.
Quote from: RPGPundit on June 30, 2023, 12:46:45 AM
I'm not banning any kind of way of playing D&D on theRPGsite. If you want to REALLY play AD&D1e Rules-as-Written and talk about that you're welcome to.
Thank you for the clarification! Good luck with your twitter account.
Quote from: RPGPundit on June 30, 2023, 01:48:41 AM
Quote from: GeekyBugle on June 30, 2023, 12:58:17 AM
Quote from: RPGPundit on June 30, 2023, 12:49:58 AM
Quote from: Opaopajr on June 29, 2023, 09:54:00 PM
OMG, where will we be able to.find your voice now? Mastadon? :o
;D j/k I know you're here.
:o Or are you really here? Is any of this real?
:-[ Hold me, I'm scared!
Not really sure yet. At the moment, I plan to post a bit more on theRPGsite, on the Inglorious OSR group on Mewe, on the Conservative OSR group on Facebook, and probably to be more active on Youtube.
Ironically, I was mulling about how to work out doing subscriptions or videos on Twitter before this, trying to figure out what I could offer there. Now that's out obviously, but who knows, I might see if I can set up Youtube Subs, or if I go really crazy maybe actually start using that Patreon I have always had for people who just wanted to throw money at me.
Patreon has been co-opted for years now, you'd be better off switching to subscribestar.
Well, you might be right. It's been fine though, for giving me 25-35 dollars a month every month from people who either already bought every book of mine or never wanted to buy a book of mine but still wanted to support my efforts in exchange for absolutely nothing; other than my thanks.
Until some leftard asshole reports you for wrongthink.
Quote from: hedgehobbit on June 29, 2023, 06:12:10 PM
So Pundit is banning discussing a specific way of playing D&D on RPGsite because someone said something on Twitter. Seriously?
Basically the same thing that happened to ACKS but it's now happening here.
I've always been against purity test of RPGers and I still am.
I look forward to being banned from theRPGsite for discussing the merits of 1:1 time in the campaign and quoting the Holy Gygax YOU CANNOT HAVE A MEANINGFUL CAMPAIGN IF STRICT TIME RECORDS ARE NOT KEPT. ;D
Edit: I see from later posts (I'm just out of bed) this will apparently be allowed, *whew*.
Quote from: RPGPundit on June 30, 2023, 12:45:33 AM
Quote from: S'mon on June 29, 2023, 03:58:02 PM
Anti-Semitism goes way beyond Nazis & Neo-Nazis ofc.
Yes, I know. There's left-wing Antisemitism, lots of it. There's also Christian Nationalist Antisemitism, which I suspect is a significant number of the BroSR (Jeffro also claimed that "non christians can never understand D&D"). The latter overlap a lot with racial nationalists though.
Traditional Catholicism is at least a bit anti-Semitic (as well as anti-Freemason), as is WASP/Episcopalian culture, depending on what you mean by anti-Semitic I guess. Most people with prejudices aren't genocidal Nazis of course.
Quote from: S'mon on June 30, 2023, 03:12:38 AM
Quote from: RPGPundit on June 30, 2023, 12:45:33 AM
Quote from: S'mon on June 29, 2023, 03:58:02 PM
Anti-Semitism goes way beyond Nazis & Neo-Nazis ofc.
Yes, I know. There's left-wing Antisemitism, lots of it. There's also Christian Nationalist Antisemitism, which I suspect is a significant number of the BroSR (Jeffro also claimed that "non christians can never understand D&D"). The latter overlap a lot with racial nationalists though.
Traditional Catholicism is at least a bit anti-Semitic (as well as anti-Freemason), as is WASP/Episcopalian culture, depending on what you mean by anti-Semitic I guess. Most people with prejudices aren't genocidal Nazis of course.
While you could argue that is true, the type of things BroSR people were posting on twitter was nowhere near that mild. They were talking about full-on Antisemitism.
Quote from: RPGPundit on June 30, 2023, 12:45:33 AM
Quote from: S'mon on June 29, 2023, 03:58:02 PM
Anti-Semitism goes way beyond Nazis & Neo-Nazis ofc.
Yes, I know. There's left-wing Antisemitism, lots of it. There's also Christian Nationalist Antisemitism, which I suspect is a significant number of the BroSR (Jeffro also claimed that "non christians can never understand D&D"). The latter overlap a lot with racial nationalists though.
If that's true, that's an incredibly short sighted and ignorant thing Jeffro said. Especially seeing as the BrOSR are supposed to be the one true arbiters of DnD how it's meant to be played but didn't catch on to the obvious bits of paganism nicked by Gygax and co for DnD.
Quote from: S'mon on June 30, 2023, 03:12:38 AM
Quote from: RPGPundit on June 30, 2023, 12:45:33 AM
Quote from: S'mon on June 29, 2023, 03:58:02 PM
Anti-Semitism goes way beyond Nazis & Neo-Nazis ofc.
Yes, I know. There's left-wing Antisemitism, lots of it. There's also Christian Nationalist Antisemitism, which I suspect is a significant number of the BroSR (Jeffro also claimed that "non christians can never understand D&D"). The latter overlap a lot with racial nationalists though.
Traditional Catholicism is at least a bit anti-Semitic (as well as anti-Freemason), as is WASP/Episcopalian culture, depending on what you mean by anti-Semitic I guess. Most people with prejudices aren't genocidal Nazis of course.
I know scores of Catholics and not one anti-Semite*. I'm talking about experience not doctrine; might be missing something.
Anti-Freemason, maybe, but I know plenty of protestants that are anti-freemason too (and at least one catholic mason... if fact, Brazil probably had a Catholic mason king and hundreds of politicians that are catholic masons etc.).
* Come to think of it, I know a few people who are prejudiced... usually because they want to support Palestine and get confused. Yes, there are a few people that get confused about who killed Christ too, but I dont think this is the "anti-Semitism" we are talking about.
Quote from: S'mon on June 30, 2023, 03:12:38 AM
Quote from: RPGPundit on June 30, 2023, 12:45:33 AM
Quote from: S'mon on June 29, 2023, 03:58:02 PM
Anti-Semitism goes way beyond Nazis & Neo-Nazis ofc.
Yes, I know. There's left-wing Antisemitism, lots of it. There's also Christian Nationalist Antisemitism, which I suspect is a significant number of the BroSR (Jeffro also claimed that "non christians can never understand D&D"). The latter overlap a lot with racial nationalists though.
Traditional Catholicism is at least a bit anti-Semitic (as well as anti-Freemason), as is WASP/Episcopalian culture, depending on what you mean by anti-Semitic I guess. Most people with prejudices aren't genocidal Nazis of course.
I come from a WASP background, and now attend Catholic church, I have never once encountered anything remotely anti semitic among Christians. I am well aware there have been times in history where people who claim to be Christian have treated Jews terribly, but those times are the exceptions not the norm.
This whole kerfuffle is the first I've even heard of the Brosr. It sounds pretty lame.
Tempest in a teapot. The only winning move is not to engage with these twatwaffles as by engaging with them you give them creedance to their way of gaming.
I read what the BrOSR is and it's using AD&D 1st edition in a bizzare kind of way. Whatever makes them happy and keeps on playing have it and keep posting their garbage on itch.io for those tens of dollars.
EDIT: Clarified whom i was referring to.
Quote from: THE_Leopold on June 30, 2023, 02:24:35 PM
Tempest in a teapot. The only winning move is not to engage with these twatwaffles as by engaging with them you give them creedance to their way of gaming.
I read what the BrOSR is and it's using AD&D 1st edition in a bizzare kind of way. Whatever makes them happy and keeps on playing have it and keep posting your garbage on itch.io for those tens of dollars.
If your argument is to stay silent while other prominent people in the hobby DO engage with them, essentially endorsing them while helping them to cover up their racism, I completely disagree.
Was that last sentence directed at me, by the way?
Quote from: RPGPundit on June 30, 2023, 02:39:24 PM
Quote from: THE_Leopold on June 30, 2023, 02:24:35 PM
Tempest in a teapot. The only winning move is not to engage with these twatwaffles as by engaging with them you give them creedance to their way of gaming.
I read what the BrOSR is and it's using AD&D 1st edition in a bizzare kind of way. Whatever makes them happy and keeps on playing have it and keep posting your garbage on itch.io for those tens of dollars.
If your argument is to stay silent while other prominent people in the hobby DO engage with them, essentially endorsing them while helping them to cover up their racism, I completely disagree.
Was that last sentence directed at me, by the way?
Not to stay silent but to push their nonsense to the fringe and let them stay there.
No it was not directed to you, you sell on DTRPG and are successful at it. Breffro Johnson and their iilk are itch.io dregs.
Quote from: RPGPundit on June 29, 2023, 12:45:58 PM
So, you guys will have noticed by now that I was suspended on Twitter. The stated reason for this is that the BroSR users mass-reported me as "threatening violence", specifically referring to a tweet I did to major anti-semite BroSR poster "bdubs", who was one of the brigaders and claimed it was hypocritical of me to be blocking brosr accounts as the "free speech" guy, to which I responded "sorry, nazis only get the hammer" and then immediately blocked him. The 'hammer' was meant to refer to the ban hammer, of course, but they used that one word as an excuse to mass report and try to have me suspended for 'violent threats'.
I've already filed an appeal, but what you guys could do that would be helpful would be to get regular OSR gamers on twitter to make posts mentioning the correct twitter address (I think it would be @twittersupport but if you think it's something else let me know) calling for me to be reinstated and pointing out that the people reporting against me were doing so in bad faith. That would be really helpful. Spread the word.
On a related note. Any BroSR poster or any poster supportive of the BroSR on theRPGsite will be immediately banned for promoting neo-nazi ideology.
That sucks Pundit. I saw some jackasses celebrating (without context) and came here to find out what happened. That's some serious F'ed up stuff there and completely unjust. Kinda feels like you were set up. I'll send something to that support contact with a copy to musk, though I doubt it will help. Others should too.
Quote from: RPGPundit on June 29, 2023, 12:45:58 PM
I've already filed an appeal, but what you guys could do that would be helpful would be to get regular OSR gamers on twitter to make posts mentioning the correct twitter address (I think it would be @twittersupport but if you think it's something else let me know) calling for me to be reinstated and pointing out that the people reporting against me were doing so in bad faith. That would be really helpful. Spread the word.
Sorry, Pundit. That does suck, and I'd like to help. I technically have a Twitter account, though I never post there. This official post says that you can't appeal on someone else's behalf:
https://twitter.com/TwitterSafety/status/1649811976279736321?lang=en
Can anyone here confirm about how to give support to a suspension appeal?
I have zero idea of who these guys are, as I'm not in to OSR. I also have no idea of their politics, although Pundit's accounts of them sound awful.
Upon trying to find out who the hell these nobodies were, I came across the following image, which to me means they can't be all bad:
(http://jonmollison.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/BROSRmag3.jpg)
I lost it at the guy clinging to the boat, trying to make them take a copy of Strixhaven.
Quote from: Old Aegidius on June 30, 2023, 01:49:12 AM
Quote from: rkhigdon on June 29, 2023, 10:46:07 PM
So the only time I've heard of the BROSR was on a Youtube channel called The Joy of Wargaming, which covers minis gaming and old D&D. I've watched a fair bit of that channel and, while the guy is obviously a conservative Christian (and not above poking the liberal bear a bit), I've never seen anything remotely offensive on the channel. Whether that's because it's fine or if I just wasn't paying attention I don't know. Does anybody care to comment on the channel in question?
He says he's broSR but I don't think he's the same person that Pundit was talking about. I personally haven't seen anything particularly offensive on that channel and I've watched a fair bit of it.
I've watched a lot of his videos. I've never heard anything offensive there either.
BrOSR is small potatoes. Their 15 minutes came and went a year ago when they were almost-hot on the Youtube OSR scene. They're only trending (a lil) now because of Pundit. You'll never see people raving about them over on TBP or EnWorld - both sites are
The Forge Strikes Back.Look at the bright side - you weren't banned, just suspended :D And a lot of cool people have been suspended from Twitter:
- Twitter Co-founder & former CEO Jack Dorsey
- Clinical psychiatrist and Free-Speech advocate Jordan Peterson
- Red-Pill evangelist and international pimp Andrew Tate
- Former POTUS Donald Trump
- Rap billionaire Kanye "YE" West
- Investigative reporter Alex Jones
- Half of Russia
- Two-Thirds of U.S. Conservatives
- Over a billion Chinese accounts "because bots"
- All Chinese embassies in the U.S.
Pundit, don't worry! Someone will eventually restore order to Twitter!
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Quote from: THE_Leopold on June 30, 2023, 02:24:35 PM
Tempest in a teapot. The only winning move is not to engage with these twatwaffles as by engaging with them you give them creedance to their way of gaming.
I read what the BrOSR is and it's using AD&D 1st edition in a bizzare kind of way. Whatever makes them happy and keeps on playing have it and keep posting your garbage on itch.io for those tens of dollars.
If your argument is to stay silent while other prominent people in the hobby DO engage with them, essentially endorsing them while helping them to cover up their racism, I completely disagree.
Was that last sentence directed at me, by the way?
Not to stay silent but to push their nonsense to the fringe and let them stay there.
No it was not directed to you, you sell on DTRPG and are successful at it. Breffro Johnson and their iilk are itch.io dregs.
Ah, OK.
Deleted and blocked for being sockpuppet of tubesock
#BrOSR's Session Zero:
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Also, #BrOSR reporting Pundit to Twitter:
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If I was to report the New York Times twitter account and as a result twitter permaed them, whose fault is that?
This is not a defense of the shitbirds that did this, but anyone with a big enough voice on twitter will always have haters spamming report. The big problem here is twitter. This entire thread should be way more mad at twitter than it is. Someone who spams reports along with his dipshit pals can't ban an account- only twitter can.
I know it's generally better than previously, but there's still a ton of people banned on twitter and it seems like there's either multiple factions at twitter, or they just have tiers of misbehavior before you get added to perma-blacklisted individuals.
For what it's worth, this particular case is really unlikely to be permanent.
They're currently telling me that it's permanent, though giving me the option to appeal if I think they got it wrong.
So, people who openly promote punching N*zis have gotten you banned for allegedly threatening violence against N*zis. I guess that's par for the course these days.
Quote from: Almost_Useless on July 03, 2023, 12:05:23 AM
So, people who openly promote punching N*zis have gotten you banned for allegedly threatening violence against N*zis. I guess that's par for the course these days.
Yes, with the added detail that threatening violence was not my intent.
That smells of high bullshittery. No reasonable viewer would think you meant actual violence. "The banhammer" is a common internet term. >:(
Quote from: Brigman on July 03, 2023, 10:57:54 AM
That smells of high bullshittery. No reasonable viewer would think you meant actual violence. "The banhammer" is a common internet term. >:(
Pity he said "get the hammer" not "banhammer." I suspect Jeffro & co did not actually feel in fear of physical violence from Pundit, but I can barely fault them for shooting at an open goal.
Quote from: S'mon on July 03, 2023, 12:39:03 PM
Pity he said "get the hammer" not "banhammer." I suspect Jeffro & co did not actually feel in fear of physical violence from Pundit, but I can barely fault them for shooting at an open goal.
I think it barely matters whether twitter decided to honor the request of some BrOSR pundit-hater or some random antifa / gamerghazi stooge. Twitter pulled this trigger, which of the million haters get the credit for having their alleged reason selected seems so unimportant to me I dunno.
Quote from: RPGPundit on July 02, 2023, 11:03:32 PM
They're currently telling me that it's permanent, though giving me the option to appeal if I think they got it wrong.
This sadly doesn't mean anything, though I guess with my extensive qualifications as "anonymous guy who is on the internet", I would recommend you jump through their hoops and engage in good faith (assuming said hoops are not too burdensome). Sometimes this process works, sometimes it does not. My guess is, if you're on a blacklist it's a perma and they were waiting, and if you aren't they will clear it up. Not only is it obviously not a violent threat or inciting anyone to violence, it requires an
incredibly tortuous set of beliefs to land there. First you have to pretend that you aren't talking about banning people which you obviously are, then you have to pretend that "get the hammer" implies that you will personally run around with an actual hammer and beat up people you disagree with politically, and third you have to pretend that you meant this in an unironic and literal fashion.
It's also possible that these twitter speech-censors, as obvious villains, identify as vicious barrels thrown by a chaotic ape, and are worried because they know that a hammer makes you a threat to them.
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Well guys, if you want to help me out, please share the link to my Livestream to twitter (see my livestream thread for the link). And then if you're on twitter, sometime tonight, write a post to @twittersupport explaining that I was unfairly banned and did not mean to threaten violence.
Could someone please link to Tweets/Blogs/Videos where these views were actually expressed, and any of the push back? I am morbidly curious.
Quote from: GeekyBugle on June 30, 2023, 12:58:17 AM
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Quote from: Opaopajr on June 29, 2023, 09:54:00 PM
OMG, where will we be able to.find your voice now? Mastadon? :o
;D j/k I know you're here.
:o Or are you really here? Is any of this real?
:-[ Hold me, I'm scared!
Not really sure yet. At the moment, I plan to post a bit more on theRPGsite, on the Inglorious OSR group on Mewe, on the Conservative OSR group on Facebook, and probably to be more active on Youtube.
Ironically, I was mulling about how to work out doing subscriptions or videos on Twitter before this, trying to figure out what I could offer there. Now that's out obviously, but who knows, I might see if I can set up Youtube Subs, or if I go really crazy maybe actually start using that Patreon I have always had for people who just wanted to throw money at me.
Patreon has been co-opted for years now, you'd be better off switching to subscribestar.
As far as I know it's pretty tough for new people to get set up on SubscribeStar (based on accounts of a few people who have tried). I've heard they take a smaller cut than Patreon.
Odysee has similar features to Patreon ("Memberships") and takes a smaller cut than Patreon as well.
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Quote from: Opaopajr on June 29, 2023, 09:54:00 PM
OMG, where will we be able to.find your voice now? Mastadon? :o
;D j/k I know you're here.
:o Or are you really here? Is any of this real?
:-[ Hold me, I'm scared!
Not really sure yet. At the moment, I plan to post a bit more on theRPGsite, on the Inglorious OSR group on Mewe, on the Conservative OSR group on Facebook, and probably to be more active on Youtube.
Ironically, I was mulling about how to work out doing subscriptions or videos on Twitter before this, trying to figure out what I could offer there. Now that's out obviously, but who knows, I might see if I can set up Youtube Subs, or if I go really crazy maybe actually start using that Patreon I have always had for people who just wanted to throw money at me.
Patreon has been co-opted for years now, you'd be better off switching to subscribestar.
As far as I know it's pretty tough for new people to get set up on SubscribeStar (based on accounts of a few people who have tried). I've heard they take a smaller cut than Patreon.
Odysee has similar features to Patreon ("Memberships") and takes a smaller cut than Patreon as well.
I would recommend looking at Utreon/Playeur. They have actual human beings that you can get a hold of to fix platform issues or take suggestions, they take less than Patreon, and have content discovery mechanisms unlike SubscribeStar.
Well, my newest appeal has been rejected, in under 2 minutes (so, it's automated, no one even read it).
Meanwhile on this thread, Elon has been unsuspending people who were mistakenly or unjustly suspended.
If you have a Twitter account, please get on that thread, tell him that my account (@kasimirurbanski) was suspended for a misinterpretation of a reference to the "ban hammer", and ask him for help!
It would help if you posted a link and not a photo.
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1675539077607596033
Thanks Almost_Useless!
https://twitter.com/GeekyBugle01/status/1676294577223770125 (https://twitter.com/GeekyBugle01/status/1676294577223770125)
Quote from: RPGPundit on July 03, 2023, 06:22:42 PM
Well guys, if you want to help me out, please share the link to my Livestream to twitter (see my livestream thread for the link). And then if you're on twitter, sometime tonight, write a post to @twittersupport explaining that I was unfairly banned and did not mean to threaten violence.
Done and done!
Thank you guys, I appreciate it!
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Quote from: S'mon on June 29, 2023, 03:58:02 PM
Anti-Semitism goes way beyond Nazis & Neo-Nazis ofc.
Yes, I know. There's left-wing Antisemitism, lots of it. There's also Christian Nationalist Antisemitism, which I suspect is a significant number of the BroSR (Jeffro also claimed that "non christians can never understand D&D"). The latter overlap a lot with racial nationalists though.
Thats pathetic when you look at how certain christians claim that 'real' christians should never touch D&D or any RPG.
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Quote from: Opaopajr on June 29, 2023, 09:54:00 PM
OMG, where will we be able to.find your voice now? Mastadon? :o
;D j/k I know you're here.
:o Or are you really here? Is any of this real?
:-[ Hold me, I'm scared!
Not really sure yet. At the moment, I plan to post a bit more on theRPGsite, on the Inglorious OSR group on Mewe, on the Conservative OSR group on Facebook, and probably to be more active on Youtube.
Ironically, I was mulling about how to work out doing subscriptions or videos on Twitter before this, trying to figure out what I could offer there. Now that's out obviously, but who knows, I might see if I can set up Youtube Subs, or if I go really crazy maybe actually start using that Patreon I have always had for people who just wanted to throw money at me.
Patreon has been co-opted for years now, you'd be better off switching to subscribestar.
Well, you might be right. It's been fine though, for giving me 25-35 dollars a month every month from people who either already bought every book of mine or never wanted to buy a book of mine but still wanted to support my efforts in exchange for absolutely nothing; other than my thanks.
Until some leftard asshole reports you for wrongthink.
He's right too. I knew a few people who had Patrions and then some moral guardian gets them shut down. A few years ago this was happening in droves. Much like being on other sites that can and will ban you for whatever they hallucinate today.
I'm surprised BGG hasnt covertly censored his stuff long ago. Then again maybe they have and just never notice.
Well, I have now been restored, after a lot of people appealing to Twitter Support and Elon, another repeat of the same appeal I did before, and a bit of magic.
Glad you're back!
Hope you keep making more videos though, those were enjoyable. :)
Quote from: RPGPundit on July 08, 2023, 02:25:53 AM
Well, I have now been restored, after a lot of people appealing to Twitter Support and Elon, another repeat of the same appeal I did before, and a bit of magic.
HUZZAH!!
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Well, I have now been restored, after a lot of people appealing to Twitter Support and Elon, another repeat of the same appeal I did before, and a bit of magic.
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Quote from: Brigman on July 08, 2023, 10:52:57 AM
Glad you're back!
Hope you keep making more videos though, those were enjoyable. :)
Yes, I'll keep making more material on my Youtube; community posts, videos and more frequent livestreams. Also, more Meatball!
Never any doubt you'd be back, as I know how these things go.
However now that you've demonstrated you're capable of sharing receipts when it suits you, it's time to do so when it doesn't. So where are these supposed antisemetic #Tweets you talk about? Where is that #Tweet of Foxy Dan celebrating your bananation? Can't claim the high ground if you're going to selectively present the facts just like they do.
Quote from: RPGPundit on July 08, 2023, 02:25:53 AM
Well, I have now been restored, after a lot of people appealing to Twitter Support and Elon, another repeat of the same appeal I did before, and a bit of magic.
Good news. Glad you were restored.
I got no response from my two complaints so I had assumed the fell into a black hole.
You might consider opening a Threads account by the way. That's the new Twitter clone that Instagram just created. It's where everyone from Twitter seems to be fleeing to after Elon throttled the number of Tweets a single account can see in a day (which is a very dumb move on a platform primarily supported by ads - reducing the number of ads a person can see).
Quote from: Mistwell on July 09, 2023, 06:25:37 PM
Quote from: RPGPundit on July 08, 2023, 02:25:53 AM
Well, I have now been restored, after a lot of people appealing to Twitter Support and Elon, another repeat of the same appeal I did before, and a bit of magic.
You might consider opening a Threads account by the way.
He also might consider, yaknow, updating this site.
Quote from: Mistwell on July 09, 2023, 06:25:37 PMThat's the new Twitter clone that Instagram just created.
You mean #Meta, and that's not the endorsement you think it it.
Quote from: Mistwell on July 09, 2023, 06:25:37 PMIt's where everyone from Twitter seems to be fleeing to after Elon throttled the number of Tweets a single account can see in a day (which is a very dumb move on a platform primarily supported by ads - reducing the number of ads a person can see).
And an incredibly
smart move when you realize that more than half the traffic #Twitter gets is from bots, who while being quite good at selling you stuff aren't quite sentient enough to want to buy things yet.
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Quote from: Mistwell on July 09, 2023, 06:25:37 PM
Quote from: RPGPundit on July 08, 2023, 02:25:53 AM
Well, I have now been restored, after a lot of people appealing to Twitter Support and Elon, another repeat of the same appeal I did before, and a bit of magic.
You might consider opening a Threads account by the way.
He also might consider, yaknow, updating this site.
Quote from: Mistwell on July 09, 2023, 06:25:37 PMThat's the new Twitter clone that Instagram just created.
You mean #Meta, and that's not the endorsement you think it it.
Quote from: Mistwell on July 09, 2023, 06:25:37 PMIt's where everyone from Twitter seems to be fleeing to after Elon throttled the number of Tweets a single account can see in a day (which is a very dumb move on a platform primarily supported by ads - reducing the number of ads a person can see).
And an incredibly smart move when you realize that more than half the traffic #Twitter gets is from bots, who while being quite good at selling you stuff aren't quite sentient enough to want to buy things yet.
My man, Threads amassed more than 100 million users in less than five days, and usage of Twitter has massively dropped in that time period. It was a terrible awful horrible idea and he's retracting it quick in reaction to the disaster his decision caused.
Quote from: Anon Adderlan on July 09, 2023, 09:26:47 AM
Never any doubt you'd be back, as I know how these things go.
However now that you've demonstrated you're capable of sharing receipts when it suits you, it's time to do so when it doesn't. So where are these supposed antisemetic #Tweets you talk about? Where is that #Tweet of Foxy Dan celebrating your bananation? Can't claim the high ground if you're going to selectively present the facts just like they do.
Or you could just finally admit I don't lie, and look it up yourself, if indeed you haven't already.
Quote from: Mistwell on July 10, 2023, 11:39:37 PM
Quote from: Anon Adderlan on July 10, 2023, 02:39:48 PM
Quote from: Mistwell on July 09, 2023, 06:25:37 PM
Quote from: RPGPundit on July 08, 2023, 02:25:53 AM
Well, I have now been restored, after a lot of people appealing to Twitter Support and Elon, another repeat of the same appeal I did before, and a bit of magic.
You might consider opening a Threads account by the way.
He also might consider, yaknow, updating this site.
Quote from: Mistwell on July 09, 2023, 06:25:37 PMThat's the new Twitter clone that Instagram just created.
You mean #Meta, and that's not the endorsement you think it it.
Quote from: Mistwell on July 09, 2023, 06:25:37 PMIt's where everyone from Twitter seems to be fleeing to after Elon throttled the number of Tweets a single account can see in a day (which is a very dumb move on a platform primarily supported by ads - reducing the number of ads a person can see).
And an incredibly smart move when you realize that more than half the traffic #Twitter gets is from bots, who while being quite good at selling you stuff aren't quite sentient enough to want to buy things yet.
My man, Threads amassed more than 100 million users in less than five days, and usage of Twitter has massively dropped in that time period. It was a terrible awful horrible idea and he's retracting it quick in reaction to the disaster his decision caused.
The problem is that Threads auto enrolls you if you have FB or Insta shadow account - that 100 million isn't real.
Secondly - of you actually sign up for Threads and want to then close your account, good luck since it will also close your Instagram account as well.
Quote from: RPGPundit on July 11, 2023, 05:51:11 AM
Quote from: Anon Adderlan on July 09, 2023, 09:26:47 AM
Never any doubt you'd be back, as I know how these things go.
However now that you've demonstrated you're capable of sharing receipts when it suits you, it's time to do so when it doesn't. So where are these supposed antisemetic #Tweets you talk about? Where is that #Tweet of Foxy Dan celebrating your bananation? Can't claim the high ground if you're going to selectively present the facts just like they do.
Or you could just finally admit I don't lie, and look it up yourself, if indeed you haven't already.
It is no longer possible to browse or search #Twitter without being logged in, I have one account, and I'm blocked by Dan. So one wonders how
you even saw it. And while I finally found the tweets in question (https://archive.is/K9svH), that was only because D&D had retweeted it, and then I had to find it on the #Google cache because Dan had of course deleted it.
So no, you don't lie, just make it difficult to verify you're telling the truth. And why should others put the work in to help defend your reputation if you aren't?
Quote from: Anon Adderlan on July 16, 2023, 04:39:41 AM
So one wonders how you even saw it. And while I finally found the tweets in question (https://archive.is/K9svH)
Fox is just total scum, isn't he? That tweet reminds me of the end of
Animal Farm. He's exactly the type to be a Fascist when the Fascists are on top, just as he's a Commie while the Commies are on top.
Edit: And thanks for finding the tweet AA. You are 100% right that Pundit is his own worst enemy on this stuff. I'm used to his attitude of "I shouldn't have to explain myself!" as it's a part of my own Ulster-Protestant culture, but it's very often self-defeating.
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Quote from: RPGPundit on July 08, 2023, 02:25:53 AM
Well, I have now been restored, after a lot of people appealing to Twitter Support and Elon, another repeat of the same appeal I did before, and a bit of magic.
You might consider opening a Threads account by the way.
He also might consider, yaknow, updating this site.
Quote from: Mistwell on July 09, 2023, 06:25:37 PMThat's the new Twitter clone that Instagram just created.
You mean #Meta, and that's not the endorsement you think it it.
Quote from: Mistwell on July 09, 2023, 06:25:37 PMIt's where everyone from Twitter seems to be fleeing to after Elon throttled the number of Tweets a single account can see in a day (which is a very dumb move on a platform primarily supported by ads - reducing the number of ads a person can see).
And an incredibly smart move when you realize that more than half the traffic #Twitter gets is from bots, who while being quite good at selling you stuff aren't quite sentient enough to want to buy things yet.
My man, Threads amassed more than 100 million users in less than five days, and usage of Twitter has massively dropped in that time period. It was a terrible awful horrible idea and he's retracting it quick in reaction to the disaster his decision caused.
The problem is that Threads auto enrolls you if you have FB or Insta shadow account - that 100 million isn't real.
Nope. FB ad Insta accounts do not shadow account to Threads. Not sure where you read that, but that's not how that works. It's oddly a little more complicated than expected to open a Threads account.
By the way, if that were how it worked, there would be billions of Threads accounts. Facebook alone has 3 billion active accounts. So, obviously, they're not all shadow accounting to Threads given Threads has only 100 million.
Yeah, I was kicked off of Twitter 4 months ago for commenting on a video simply stating an opinion. The censoring hasn't changed much in the last 12 months...
Once again: when punks like Fox flap their pie holes open, archive, archive, archive.
I should not have to remind some of you about this.
I love the current pushback from both the Right AND Left: