OK, from a few other threads here, there seems to be enough of us in agreement that we need places where we can discuss RPG stuff without fear of being overly annoyed by the sjw mob. So where are these places located? What websites have not been so overrun by the woke, that we can gather and discuss gaming subjects without undue interference?

Obviously, there is this forum, but what other places are there out there?

This is it. Out of my entire forum list for 20 years.

Every other forum has been taken by the Wightwokers.

I didn't even know about this place. I fled here.

... what defines an oasis is the fact it's surrounded by a vast desert.

I suspect it's less about us finding other oases than us learning how to irrigate. There is a LOT of desert to green. It's time for us to put on our Stillsuits, and take back what's ours and bring the rest of people to us. It took a long time to get to this point, it will take a long time to get out.

I am banned from a lot of them for racism. I died on the hill of it was racist against people to say orcs were supposed to be fantasy versions of minorities. That the very act of saying that was racist and to stop. That minorities were already in D&D and other rpg's as themselves. Human's come in all types of colors and shapes and were already in game and showed D&D pictures of humans from books and modules who were clearly minority types. That orcs were horrible monsters ect....

It was a nice hill to die on and I'm not sorry for it BUT I won't be able to help create a beachhead any time soon.

Quote from: tenbones on July 08, 2021, 10:15:36 AM
... what defines an oasis is the fact it's surrounded by a vast desert.

I suspect it's less about us finding other oases than us learning how to irrigate. There is a LOT of desert to green. It's time for us to put on our Stillsuits, and take back what's ours and bring the rest of people to us. It took a long time to get to this point, it will take a long time to get out.

This is the way.

Quote from: Gameogre on July 08, 2021, 10:25:56 AM
I am banned from a lot of them for racism. I died on the hill of it was racist against people to say orcs were supposed to be fantasy versions of minorities. That the very act of saying that was racist and to stop. That minorities were already in D&D and other rpg's as themselves. Human's come in all types of colors and shapes and were already in game and showed D&D pictures of humans from books and modules who were clearly minority types. That orcs were horrible monsters ect....

It was a nice hill to die on and I'm not sorry for it BUT I won't be able to help create a beachhead any time soon.

That's pretty crazy. If you're (generic "you" here) writing orcs as fantasy versions of black people, then you're writing them wrong. This is why I try to be careful to strip orcs of any qualities that could be potentially perceived as racist coding.

Quote from: Gameogre on July 08, 2021, 10:25:56 AM
I am banned from a lot of them for racism. I died on the hill of it was racist against people to say orcs were supposed to be fantasy versions of minorities. That the very act of saying that was racist and to stop. That minorities were already in D&D and other rpg's as themselves. Human's come in all types of colors and shapes and were already in game and showed D&D pictures of humans from books and modules who were clearly minority types. That orcs were horrible monsters ect....

It was a nice hill to die on and I'm not sorry for it BUT I won't be able to help create a beachhead any time soon.

When confronted by knowledge and sound reason; those who claim that all dark skinned monstrous humanoids in RPGs are stand-ins for black people, will scream and shout that your "facts" don't change their "truth".

Quote from: Jam The MF on July 08, 2021, 12:02:41 PM

Quote from: Gameogre on July 08, 2021, 10:25:56 AM
I am banned from a lot of them for racism. I died on the hill of it was racist against people to say orcs were supposed to be fantasy versions of minorities. That the very act of saying that was racist and to stop. That minorities were already in D&D and other rpg's as themselves. Human's come in all types of colors and shapes and were already in game and showed D&D pictures of humans from books and modules who were clearly minority types. That orcs were horrible monsters ect....

It was a nice hill to die on and I'm not sorry for it BUT I won't be able to help create a beachhead any time soon.

When confronted by knowledge and sound reason; those who claim that all dark skinned monstrous humanoids in RPGs are stand-ins for black people, will scream and shout that your "facts" don't change their "truth".

Tolkien's own "mongol-types" quote doesn't help. Even if he was being critical of racism, it's still not a good look to say that (paraphrasing) "orcs resemble Europeans' racist caricatures of Asians."

The mongols where fucking monsters box. They relished it and where great at it.

Go blow yourself.

Quote from: Shrieking Banshee on July 08, 2021, 01:00:35 PM
The mongols where fucking monsters box. They relished it and where great at it.

Go blow yourself.

At the time he wrote that, "mongoloid" was a common scientific term for East Asians. In Letter 210, Tolkien described Orcs as "...squat, broad, flat-nosed, sallow-skinned, with wide mouths and slant eyes; in fact degraded and repulsive versions of the (to Europeans) least lovely Mongol-types". The context makes it clear he wasn't talking about the Mongol Empire, but instead the East Asian phenotypes.

I took "Microaggression" training at work.  Basically anything you can say that someone might construe or misconstrue, and take offense to, can't be said in a public context.

Doesn't matter if it is for an imaginary game setting or Current Events.

Greetings!

Ahh, Geesus. Worried about racist caricatures of Asians?

How about Europeans can justify whatever "caricatures" they want about Asians--especially the Mongols.

The Mongols literally slaughtered and enslaved *millions* of Europeans. Historical estimates maintain that the Mongols annihilated 50-90% of the entire population of Ukraine! Poland, Hungary, Austria, Slovakia, Romania, Bulgaria were all put under the MONGOL YOKE. Russia was dominated for over two hundred years by the Mongol Dominion. Fuck whining about racism, oppression and hurting your fucking feelings. How about getting raped, beaten into the fucking ground and made to grovel in the dirt like an animal? Then, how about just being tortured to death or otherwise KILLED. I'd think there's many things worse than "Racism" or "stereotyping" or whatever crybaby whining bullshit that some of these morons like to go on and on about. MILLIONS of Europeans were raped and carried off into slavery, crushed for the rest of their lives. The Mongol Dominion was very real, and it wasn't nice, sweet, or gentle.

Ahh, the poor bandy-legged Mongolian types! Come the fuck on. Everyone else can have perfectly justified feelings of resentment and revel in caricatures and stereotyping WHITE people everyday of the week--and no one says a damned thing about it. But let any white person anywhere, make any kind of negative framed comment or stereotype concerning whatever minorities, and OH MY GOD! Time to clutch the fucking pearls!

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

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Quote from: Shrieking Banshee on July 08, 2021, 01:00:35 PM
The mongols where fucking monsters box. They relished it and where great at it.

Go blow yourself.

At the time he wrote that, "mongoloid" was a common scientific term for East Asians. In Letter 210, Tolkien described Orcs as "...squat, broad, flat-nosed, sallow-skinned, with wide mouths and slant eyes; in fact degraded and repulsive versions of the (to Europeans) least lovely Mongol-types". The context makes it clear he wasn't talking about the Mongol Empire, but instead the East Asian phenotypes.

By his own writings, Orcs aren't Mongols, but degraded and repulsive versions of Mongols.

Orcs are also corrupted Elves.

Therefore Mongols = Elves.

But you do you and keep equating all fantasy races with real world people while acusing those who don't see the resemblance of racism.

Quote from: Gameogre on July 08, 2021, 10:12:30 AM
This is it. Out of my entire forum list for 20 years.

Every other forum has been taken by the Wightwokers.

I didn't even know about this place. I fled here.

There's one other place, in my opinion.

Are you familiar with New Zealand agriculture?

Quote from: GeekyBugle on July 08, 2021, 01:30:50 PM
Therefore Mongols = Elves.

Like on Taladas?