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Title: Basic Rules Updated..
Post by: Marleycat on August 12, 2014, 04:29:21 PM
Lots of monsters, some DM advice and some magic items http://dnd.wizards.com/articles/features/basicrules (http://dnd.wizards.com/articles/features/basicrules)
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Post by: Saplatt on August 12, 2014, 04:37:36 PM
Cool!  More monsters, including trolls, giants & swarms.
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Post by: cranebump on August 12, 2014, 04:40:48 PM
One dragon on the monster list?  Did I see that right?

It's "Dungeons & Dragon. Yes, just one."
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Post by: Sacrosanct on August 12, 2014, 04:41:00 PM
The DM guide.  finally!  I'm very happy :)
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Post by: Sacrosanct on August 12, 2014, 04:41:35 PM
Quote from: cranebump;778967One dragon on the monster list?  Did I see that right?

It's "Dungeons & Dragon. Yes, just one."

The Dragon Queen free pdf supplement has a few others in it.
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Post by: One Horse Town on August 12, 2014, 04:43:21 PM
It's not this one then?

http://www.therpgsite.com/showthread.php?t=30313
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Post by: Saplatt on August 12, 2014, 04:43:50 PM
And I was wondering what they'd do with headbands of intellect.Treated like gauntlets of ogre power rather than belts of giant strength. Raises INT to 19. Keeps caster DCs from getting ridiculous. I like it.
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Post by: Sacrosanct on August 12, 2014, 04:45:17 PM
Quote from: One Horse Town;778972It's not this one then?

http://www.therpgsite.com/showthread.php?t=30313

yep, that's the supplement with the other dragons.

And Marlycat?  guess what?

If you roll for starting hp, a cat can still kill a wizard in one round (if you roll a 1) :)
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Post by: Mistwell on August 12, 2014, 05:00:39 PM
I really like Legendary Creatures, Legendary Lairs, and Regional Effects of Legendary Creatures.  This stuff is made of awesome, and exactly what my current campaign needs for the big bad at the end of the mega dungeon my players are nearing on.
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Post by: One Horse Town on August 12, 2014, 05:01:35 PM
Blimey, that's a generous number of monsters. Me likey.
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Post by: jcfiala on August 12, 2014, 05:06:38 PM
Quote from: cranebump;778967One dragon on the monster list?  Did I see that right?

It's "Dungeons & Dragon. Yes, just one."

I came across two Dragons in the file, one under "A" for Adult, and one under "Y" for Young.
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Post by: Mistwell on August 12, 2014, 05:14:25 PM
Quote from: cranebump;778967One dragon on the monster list?  Did I see that right?

It's "Dungeons & Dragon. Yes, just one."

Two actual dragons in that PDF (red and young green), and then one addtional dragon-type (Wyvern).  So three dragons.
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Post by: Blacky the Blackball on August 12, 2014, 05:39:03 PM
I note with interest that potions now seem to be identifiable by their look and behaviour. The invisibility potion is invisible. The potion of vitality has a heartbeat, and the potion of flying is lighter than air and has clouds in it...
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Post by: Exploderwizard on August 12, 2014, 06:21:16 PM
Quote from: Blacky the Blackball;778996I note with interest that potions now seem to be identifiable by their look and behaviour. The invisibility potion is invisible. The potion of vitality has a heartbeat, and the potion of flying is lighter than air and has clouds in it...

Its not a problem. After all anyone can find out the properties of any magic item just by spending an hour whispering sweet nothings to it.
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Post by: YourSwordisMine on August 12, 2014, 07:05:26 PM
MULES!

The Donkey-Horse is dead!
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Post by: YourSwordisMine on August 12, 2014, 07:06:39 PM
Quote from: Exploderwizard;779015Its not a problem. After all anyone can find out the properties of any magic item just by spending an hour whispering sweet nothings to it.

Some potions like to be talked dirty to...
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Post by: Warboss Squee on August 12, 2014, 07:15:30 PM
Quote from: Blacky the Blackball;778996I note with interest that potions now seem to be identifiable by their look and behaviour. The invisibility potion is invisible. The potion of vitality has a heartbeat, and the potion of flying is lighter than air and has clouds in it...

That is very cool.
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Post by: BigWeather on August 12, 2014, 07:15:35 PM
Ok, I may be really dense here, but...

I downloaded the PDF (the first one listed) and I don't see any monsters, potions, etc. on the first look-through.  How did I miss them?  My version is listed as 0.2.

Edit: Oh, dear, nevermind me.  I was being really dense.  I just saw V2 with V1 below it and thought "hey, I've already got V1" and ignored that it was the DM basic rules. =)
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Post by: Marleycat on August 12, 2014, 07:46:54 PM
Quote from: Sacrosanct;778974yep, that's the supplement with the other dragons.

And Marlycat?  guess what?

If you roll for starting hp, a cat can still kill a wizard in one round (if you roll a 1) :)

*steeples her fingers*  EXCELLENT.:)
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Post by: Blacky the Blackball on August 12, 2014, 07:58:47 PM
Quote from: BigWeather;779037Ok, I may be really dense here, but...

I downloaded the PDF (the first one listed) and I don't see any monsters, potions, etc. on the first look-through.  How did I miss them?  My version is listed as 0.2.

Edit: Oh, dear, nevermind me.  I was being really dense.  I just saw V2 with V1 below it and thought "hey, I've already got V1" and ignored that it was the DM basic rules. =)

Thank God I wasn't the only person to do that!
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Post by: danbuter on August 12, 2014, 08:02:55 PM
Quote from: Sacrosanct;778969The Dragon Queen free pdf supplement has a few others in it.

Don't be trying to spoil his righteous indignation!
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Post by: Gold Roger on August 12, 2014, 08:08:14 PM
Two words:

Giant Goat


Never again shall one of my characters have another mount.
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Post by: snooggums on August 12, 2014, 08:20:39 PM
Where there enough changes between the Player's Guide v1 and v2 to make it worth reprinting?
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Post by: Blacky the Blackball on August 12, 2014, 08:22:21 PM
Annoyingly I'm unable to find a list of changes; so other than the obvious (the appendices attached to the end) it's not that clear what's changed and what hasn't without going through it with a fine-tooth comb.
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Post by: jadrax on August 12, 2014, 08:49:05 PM
Quote from: snooggums;779050Where there enough changes between the Player's Guide v1 and v2 to make it worth reprinting?

Probably not, no. They added a couple of spells, the Noble Background, a rules clarification about recovering Hit Dice at level one and some stuff on the Forgotten Realms Gods and Factions. Most of the other changes were to formatting.
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Post by: LibraryLass on August 12, 2014, 09:18:00 PM
...Spectators, really, of all things?

To be honest if I were them I'd probably have used pretty much verbatim the B/X list with one or two tweaks (Less devil swine, more beholders).

Still, this is an interesting starter list. That red dragon is officially the shit as far as I'm concerned.
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Post by: Saplatt on August 12, 2014, 09:19:08 PM
What have you got against Devil Swine?
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Post by: cranebump on August 12, 2014, 09:25:12 PM
Quote from: danbuter;779046Don't be trying to spoil his righteous indignation!

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!  WOHO! WOHAHAHAHA! WAHAHA...oh, wait, that wasn't funny...(ahem)...true....I shouldn't be upset about there being but two dragons in the monster section. Then again, maybe I'd know there were two, if, oh, I dunno they FILED THEM UNDER "D?" You now..."D?"...for Dragon? (really, guys? "Y" is for "Dragon?").
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Post by: flyerfan1991 on August 12, 2014, 11:16:27 PM
Quote from: Marleycat;778958Lots of monsters, some DM advice and some magic items http://dnd.wizards.com/articles/features/basicrules (http://dnd.wizards.com/articles/features/basicrules)

Thank goodness, some good news today.
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Post by: Sacrosanct on August 12, 2014, 11:33:24 PM
Yeah, I don't get how they organized the monsters either.  Pretty stupid actually.  I don't want to flip through the entire monster manual just to look up different ages of dragons.
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Post by: jcfiala on August 12, 2014, 11:45:52 PM
Quote from: cranebump;779069BWAHAHAHAHAHA!  WOHO! WOHAHAHAHA! WAHAHA...oh, wait, that wasn't funny...(ahem)...true....I shouldn't be upset about there being but two dragons in the monster section. Then again, maybe I'd know there were two, if, oh, I dunno they FILED THEM UNDER "D?" You now..."D?"...for Dragon? (really, guys? "Y" is for "Dragon?").

The Dragons entered into a witness protection program after turning state's evidence in on the Terrasque.
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Post by: Marleycat on August 12, 2014, 11:47:23 PM
Quote from: Sacrosanct;779094Yeah, I don't get how they organized the monsters either.  Pretty stupid actually.  I don't want to flip through the entire monster manual just to look up different ages of dragons.

They took the list thing far too seriously given that is a charopper's favorite tool. They didn't trust natural language and how multiclassing actually works to be enough. Very sad now.
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Post by: Natty Bodak on August 13, 2014, 12:59:47 AM
Quote from: Sacrosanct;779094Yeah, I don't get how they organized the monsters either.  Pretty stupid actually.  I don't want to flip through the entire monster manual just to look up different ages of dragons.

I continue to boggle at why the races aren't listed alphabetically in the PHB. Super annoying to flip through them. Definitely a few weird decisions here and there.
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Post by: jeff37923 on August 13, 2014, 01:08:00 AM
I'd like to see the DMG now.

The section on Combat Encounters leaves me a bit chilled. One of the best things about 3.0 to me was CR and the way you use that to give XP for overcoming an encounter, not just by combat but by any means possible. That seems to be missing so far from 5E, but I am hoping that it shows up in the DMG because it really does expand the game in ways that I enjoy.
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Post by: LibraryLass on August 13, 2014, 01:40:13 AM
Quote from: Saplatt;779067What have you got against Devil Swine?

Not much, though I find them redundant with regular wereboars. Mostly I just feel like their slot could go to something that's more of a fan favorite.
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Post by: Imp on August 13, 2014, 01:53:33 AM
Quote from: Sacrosanct;779094Yeah, I don't get how they organized the monsters either.  Pretty stupid actually.  I don't want to flip through the entire monster manual just to look up different ages of dragons.

They're looking forward to really fucking up people's shit when they introduce the "Precocious Gold Dragon" and the "Young But Relativistically Aged Green Dragon" probably
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Post by: YourSwordisMine on August 13, 2014, 02:05:07 AM
the Teenaged Black Dragon could fuck up some peoples shit... It is just too Emo to care...

It's the Tween Red Dragons everyone is going to have trouble with...
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Post by: The Butcher on August 13, 2014, 07:54:03 AM
D&D 5e has stats for the grick.

All is right with the world once more.

;)
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Post by: estar on August 13, 2014, 11:01:08 AM
Quote from: snooggums;779050Where there enough changes between the Player's Guide v1 and v2 to make it worth reprinting?

There is a changelog on the webpage

QuoteCHANGE LOG
This change log indicates significant updates from the previous version of the D&D Basic Rules.

Added acid splash and poison spray spells.
Added noble background.
Added appendix containing the Forgotten Realms deities.
Added appendix containing descriptions of the five factions that feature in the D&D Adventurers League.
Legal text added to the footer to allow reproduction for personal purposes.

Personally I would wait until after the DMG is out before printing it out again.
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Post by: Omega on August 13, 2014, 01:56:11 PM
Quote from: Marleycat;779043*steeples her fingers*  EXCELLENT.:)

And elk are still a terror. Ram for 1d6+3 or Charge and land 3d6+3 damage.

and oooooh! Giant Elk! 2d6+4 ram and charge for 4d6+4... ow...Trample for 4d8+4, and this is a CR2 critter.
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Post by: Omega on August 13, 2014, 02:10:05 PM
Quote from: snooggums;779050Where there enough changes between the Player's Guide v1 and v2 to make it worth reprinting?

So far at first glance seems like they added one or two new spells and the Noble background. Will have a more in depth look later.
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Post by: Omega on August 13, 2014, 02:14:27 PM
Typo in the size category list.

Small and Medium are both listed as 5x5ft.

Addendum: Possible typo. Could be intentional.
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Post by: jeff37923 on August 13, 2014, 02:15:06 PM
Quote from: Omega;779239And elk are still a terror. Ram for 1d6+3 or Charge and land 3d6+3 damage.

and oooooh! Giant Elk! 2d6+4 ram and charge for 4d6+4... ow...Trample for 4d8+4, and this is a CR2 critter.

I want Orcs on Elk cavalry now.
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Post by: Rincewind1 on August 13, 2014, 02:28:23 PM
Quote from: jeff37923;779248I want Orcs on Elk cavalry now.

Dire Boar's riding where it's at. And you can have the models for the reas- Games Workshop's price! (https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-ZQQOUq5FHUo/TYWGwVpVp2I/AAAAAAAABRA/Sfr4lfHPNOg/s1600/m1550175a_P1Mb5.jpg)
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Post by: Omega on August 13, 2014, 02:28:56 PM
Quote from: jeff37923;779248I want Orcs on Elk cavalry now.

Hell with that! The Elk will ride Orc cavalry now! :cool:
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Post by: Exploderwizard on August 13, 2014, 06:12:04 PM
Quote from: Omega;779246Typo in the size category list.

Small and Medium are both listed as 5x5ft.

Addendum: Possible typo. Could be intentional.

I believe it is intentional. Small and medium were both 5 x5 in 3E too.