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Title: Basic Roleplaying Quick-Start Edition
Post by: Drohem on April 09, 2009, 12:54:16 AM
Chaosium is offering a free 32-page Quickstart version of Chaosium’s Basic Roleplaying system.

Basic Roleplaying Quick-Start Edition (http://catalog.chaosium.com/product_info.php?cPath=37&products_id=3700)
Title: Basic Roleplaying Quick-Start Edition
Post by: stu2000 on April 09, 2009, 08:41:24 AM
That's very cool. The old one was fun.
Title: Basic Roleplaying Quick-Start Edition
Post by: GnomeWorks on April 09, 2009, 11:04:59 AM
Huh, that is much neater than I was expecting it to be.
Title: Basic Roleplaying Quick-Start Edition
Post by: Drohem on April 09, 2009, 12:11:51 PM
Yeah, this is a good move by Chaosium.  This quickstart is devoid of powers like mutations, magic, and psionics.  However, this quickstart is perfect for checking BRP once again, for you oldies but goodies, and to see how Jason complied the various BRP subsystems together into a super BRP toolkit.
Title: Basic Roleplaying Quick-Start Edition
Post by: Benoist on April 09, 2009, 12:17:56 PM
This is cool.
Title: Basic Roleplaying Quick-Start Edition
Post by: Idinsinuation on April 09, 2009, 01:02:51 PM
Nice!  So many cool freebies added to my library lately.
Title: Basic Roleplaying Quick-Start Edition
Post by: Blackleaf on April 09, 2009, 02:24:18 PM
One of those games I've always heard about but never taken a look at. I think I'll download it tonight. :)
Title: Basic Roleplaying Quick-Start Edition
Post by: Spinachcat on April 09, 2009, 02:40:16 PM
Thank you for the link!  

I remember the first BRP Quick-Start I got back in 1981 that came in a box set of dungeon tiles called Fantasy Paths.  It even came with a sample adventure!

BTW, if you can find Fantasy Paths, Castle Paths or Village Paths on eBay, they are extremely cool but made for 15mm-20mm figs.
Title: Basic Roleplaying Quick-Start Edition
Post by: Drohem on April 09, 2009, 02:43:16 PM
Quote from: Spinachcat;295247Thank you for the link!  

I remember the first BRP Quick-Start I got back in 1981 that came in a box set of dungeon tiles called Fantasy Paths.  It even came with a sample adventure!

BTW, if you can find Fantasy Paths, Castle Paths or Village Paths on eBay, they are extremely cool but made for 15mm-20mm figs.

You're welcome. :)  I've a copy of Fantasy Paths.  I've been searching for the other two for several years now (for a reasonable price).
Title: Basic Roleplaying Quick-Start Edition
Post by: Simlasa on April 09, 2009, 02:47:12 PM
I'm really glad they did this.
I've got the BIG book of BRP, which is excellent, but now I've got something to toss at people so they can bone up on the rules... plus my pal in Seattle has been wanting to start playing RPGs and this would be a perfect start for him.

Now if Jason can just get the Interplanetary book out the door I'll be a very happy BRP fan.
Title: Basic Roleplaying Quick-Start Edition
Post by: Akrasia on April 09, 2009, 03:36:53 PM
My copy looks like a 'negative' with respect to all of the illustrations (i.e., what should be white is black, and vice versa).  It also prints up like this.  Anyone else have this problem?  Anyone know how to fix it?

(I'm using 'Preview' on a MacBook Pro.)
Title: Basic Roleplaying Quick-Start Edition
Post by: Drohem on April 09, 2009, 03:42:04 PM
hmm... that's weird.  I don't have any issues with the copy that I downloaded.  I'm using a PC and I'm fairly computer illiterate, so I'm useless to you on this one. :(
Title: Basic Roleplaying Quick-Start Edition
Post by: boulet on April 09, 2009, 04:27:56 PM
weird double post... sorry
Title: Basic Roleplaying Quick-Start Edition
Post by: boulet on April 09, 2009, 04:30:23 PM
Quote from: Akrasia;295265My copy looks like a 'negative' with respect to all of the illustrations (i.e., what should be white is black, and vice versa).  It also prints up like this.  Anyone else have this problem?  Anyone know how to fix it?

(I'm using 'Preview' on a MacBook Pro.)

Did you check the version of acrobat reader on your computer and on their website ? Maybe you just need an update. The windows version has an update item in the help menu. It's probably the same for you.
Title: Basic Roleplaying Quick-Start Edition
Post by: Philotomy Jurament on April 09, 2009, 10:37:47 PM
Quote from: Akrasia;295265My copy looks like a 'negative' with respect to all of the illustrations (i.e., what should be white is black, and vice versa).  It also prints up like this.  Anyone else have this problem?  Anyone know how to fix it?

(I'm using 'Preview' on a MacBook Pro.)
I'm on a MacBook Pro, too.  If I use Preview, I see the "negative" illustrations.  If I use Adobe Reader, it looks correct.  I don't know if it's a problem with Preview or with the document, but using Reader works-around it.
Title: Basic Roleplaying Quick-Start Edition
Post by: Benoist on April 09, 2009, 10:49:46 PM
I'm using Acrobat, and no negative pictures here.
Looks like MacBook has problems reading the file. Since you guys have different files and the same issue reading it via MB, I guess it comes from the original encoding of the file.
Title: Basic Roleplaying Quick-Start Edition
Post by: KrakaJak on April 10, 2009, 01:40:28 AM
Quote from: Akrasia;295265My copy looks like a 'negative' with respect to all of the illustrations (i.e., what should be white is black, and vice versa).  It also prints up like this.  Anyone else have this problem?  Anyone know how to fix it?

(I'm using 'Preview' on a MacBook Pro.)
Don't use preview. Use Acrobat Reader.
Title: Basic Roleplaying Quick-Start Edition
Post by: Akrasia on April 10, 2009, 03:24:46 PM
Quote from: Philotomy Jurament;295359I'm on a MacBook Pro, too.  If I use Preview, I see the "negative" illustrations.  If I use Adobe Reader, it looks correct.  I don't know if it's a problem with Preview or with the document, but using Reader works-around it.

Yup, no problem with Adobe Reader.  Thanks for the tip, Philotomy.
Title: Basic Roleplaying Quick-Start Edition
Post by: Casey777 on April 12, 2009, 03:02:33 PM
Good pdf, much better look while still not straying far from Chaosium classic looks. Great that it's free, too bad it requires a PITA registration just for the free download, which makes it harder to get potential players to download and checkout.

Preview seems to be perpetually behind a few notches in PDF and often doesn't display certain PDF features right from what I've seen. It's great if it works as it's built in and svelt, but yeah, keep a as up to date copy of Acrobat Reader as you dare around just in case. Dunno if there are other free PDF displayers for Mac OS X but might be worth a looksee.

Never hurts to bring the issue up with the maker of the pdf but no promise of any changes taking place. :(
Title: Basic Roleplaying Quick-Start Edition
Post by: Mostlyjoe on April 13, 2009, 06:54:17 AM
Ooh! Thanks for catching this. I've been picking up free games, quickplays, and toolkits like crazy since the .pdf boom of April. (Thanks WoTC)
Title: Basic Roleplaying Quick-Start Edition
Post by: Drohem on April 16, 2009, 11:38:52 AM
Hey guys, an update.

The BRP Quickstart rules have been updated to 48-pages with a sample adventure.  

Updated BRP Quickstart Rules (http://catalog.chaosium.com/product_info.php?cPath=37&products_id=3700)

Also, Chaosium has made the BRP fanzine Uncounted Worlds #1 (http://catalog.chaosium.com/product_info.php?cPath=37&products_id=3701) available for free as well.
Title: Basic Roleplaying Quick-Start Edition
Post by: Benoist on April 16, 2009, 11:51:14 AM
Well, that is cool. Thanks Drohem for the update!
I know some time, I'm going to itch for some BRPS gaming again.
Title: Basic Roleplaying Quick-Start Edition
Post by: Narf the Mouse on April 16, 2009, 05:34:40 PM
'download requires login'. I don't care how easy that is, it is lame, intrusive and destroys the essential anonymity of the internet.
Title: Basic Roleplaying Quick-Start Edition
Post by: Idinsinuation on April 16, 2009, 05:40:33 PM
Quote from: Narf the Mouse;297001'download requires login'. I don't care how easy that is, it is lame, intrusive and destroys the essential anonymity of the internet.

Your loss.  :P

I feel your pain but gave up caring a long time ago.  I just don't have the capacity to let things like this bother me anymore.  *shrug*
Title: Basic Roleplaying Quick-Start Edition
Post by: Drohem on April 16, 2009, 05:47:12 PM
If anyone that wants it and doesn't want to register, just PM me with your email and I'll email it to you.
Title: Basic Roleplaying Quick-Start Edition
Post by: jgants on April 16, 2009, 07:06:30 PM
Quote from: Narf the Mouse;297001'download requires login'. I don't care how easy that is, it is lame, intrusive and destroys the essential anonymity of the internet.

[rant]
Personally I don't care so much about the anominity of the Internet as the fact that I literally have over 80 fucking different user names and passwords out there already.  I literally have to have a giant fucking spreadsheet to keep track of them all; even though many are similar, different sites have different requirements so the same thing won't always work.

And don't even get me started on the jackass paranoia of sites that force you to keep changing the damn thing.  Not to mention that many of them keep adding new shit to verify you (some have up to eight fucking challenge questions now plus give you a picture you have to identify plus some even try some "verifying the IP address bullshit).  Soon computers will require a fucking plug-in biometric reader (perhaps an anal probe) or some shit.

And why?  It's all because some security nerd jackasses like to overreact to everything.  They are as bad as the CDC about whipping people up into a frenzy over nothing just to justify their pathetic existence each year (seriously, which is a bigger scam to the public - freaking people out about Bird Flu or Cornflicker?  You decide).

I seriously wish now that Microsoft's plan of years past to rule the Internet and force everyone to use MS Passport for handling all logins would have worked.  Seriously.  It's enough to make you want to stop using the Internet some times.
[/rant]
Title: Basic Roleplaying Quick-Start Edition
Post by: Tahmoh on April 16, 2009, 07:35:32 PM
downloaded it and im gonna give it a good read tmw, the fact it mostly uses d6's has already semi sold me on the ruleset so heres hoping ive found me new go to system :)
Title: Basic Roleplaying Quick-Start Edition
Post by: Idinsinuation on April 16, 2009, 07:38:30 PM
Quote from: Broken-Serenity;297029downloaded it and im gonna give it a good read tmw, the fact it mostly uses d6's has already semi sold me on the ruleset so heres hoping ive found me new go to system :)

BRP uses d6's for stats but otherwise it's mostly a d% system.  Honestly I'm kinda surprised they haven't just gone to % based stats too to streamline things further.
Title: Basic Roleplaying Quick-Start Edition
Post by: Tahmoh on April 16, 2009, 09:05:05 PM
ah ok well no biggy im sure the fact it only really uses d6's and d%'s will be just a cool :)
Title: Basic Roleplaying Quick-Start Edition
Post by: TheShadow on April 16, 2009, 10:35:18 PM
The new quickstart looks fantastic with a half-dozen mini-adventures in different genres. This would have blown my mind if someone had handed it to me as a 15-year old newbie. Hope it brings the word of BRP to a lot more folks!
Title: Basic Roleplaying Quick-Start Edition
Post by: Casey777 on April 17, 2009, 12:07:56 AM
Made sure that the update me if this file is updated feature worked this time (jic they update the quickstart again) and also grabbed the free Uncounted Worlds #1 fanzine.

7 adventures each 2-3 pages with a small map and 4 pregenerated characters.

I was rather surprised at the number, range and versatility of adventures in what's a free quickstart pdf. Yes these are barebones cliched stock situations and characters (though with some flair and cheek). I think that's the point, get playing right away with easy to grasp and easily expanded upon adventures while your group is learning the rules.

Finishes with an allosaurus and lion. Don't have the previous edition but these may just be teasers tacked on to fill up a page.

Are these new to the quickstart or excerpts from BRP core?

The fanzine is 52 pages with a good variety of use out of the box stuff for GMs (including lifepaths for BRP) and should be very useful esp. for free. I'd consider buying it if it became like Fight On! Knockspell or the like.
Title: Basic Roleplaying Quick-Start Edition
Post by: Casey777 on April 17, 2009, 12:11:30 AM
Quote from: The_Shadow;297049The new quickstart looks fantastic with a half-dozen mini-adventures in different genres. This would have blown my mind if someone had handed it to me as a 15-year old newbie. Hope it brings the word of BRP to a lot more folks!

Yes, this is worlds better than the slim BRP booklet Chaosium sold a few years ago. It's like bundling up 6+ Savage Worlds One Sheets complete with a map each along with the quickstart. More goodness like this please!
Title: Basic Roleplaying Quick-Start Edition
Post by: mrk on April 17, 2009, 04:58:22 AM
Now if Chaosium would only put out a Fantasy ( i.e Non Gloranthan) supplement  For BRP that would be most divine.
Title: Basic Roleplaying Quick-Start Edition
Post by: enelson on April 17, 2009, 07:22:44 AM
Quote from: mrk;297083Now if Chaosium would only put out a Fantasy ( i.e Non Gloranthan) supplement  For BRP that would be most divine.

Over the years, the BRP engine has driven Stormbringer, Hawkmoon, Elf Quest and Fantasy World in Worlds of Wonder. All these are non-Gloranthan Fantasy games using the BRP engine.
Title: Basic Roleplaying Quick-Start Edition
Post by: Simlasa on April 17, 2009, 05:00:53 PM
There's also the Ashes To Ashes monograph... new for BRP... Dark Fantasy. I haven't read it though so can't make any testimonials...
Title: Basic Roleplaying Quick-Start Edition
Post by: Tahmoh on April 17, 2009, 05:30:01 PM
I would just like to let you guys know that thanks to the quick start im now a brp convert.  The system is pretty frickin awesome from what ive seen so far and now i cant wait to grab a copy of the full rules next week when i visit Fanboy3 in manchester(they usually have most rpg's in stock so im hopefull they will have a copy in), thanks for the links guys.
Title: Basic Roleplaying Quick-Start Edition
Post by: Drohem on April 17, 2009, 05:48:31 PM
Quote from: Broken-Serenity;297216I would just like to let you guys know that thanks to the quick start im now a brp convert.  The system is pretty frickin awesome from what ive seen so far and now i cant wait to grab a copy of the full rules next week when i visit Fanboy3 in manchester(they usually have most rpg's in stock so im hopefull they will have a copy in), thanks for the links guys.

Right on!:D  Good for you.  BRP brought me many years of enjoyment, from RuneQuest III to Elfquest, and many other Chaosium games.  It is one of the most elegant, simple, and robust system out there, IMHO.
Title: Basic Roleplaying Quick-Start Edition
Post by: mrk on April 17, 2009, 07:26:50 PM
Quote from: enelson;297093Over the years, the BRP engine has driven Stormbringer, Hawkmoon, Elf Quest and Fantasy World in Worlds of Wonder. All these are non-Gloranthan Fantasy games using the BRP engine.

I'm talking about something much more modular and  that's not entirely based on someone else's world. This is one   of the many reasons why D&D is so vastly popular as the  core rules ( Players, DM and Monster Guide) gives you all you need to run yoru own home brew campaign without ever looking at Forgotten Realms, Greyhawk or any other 3rd party game world. that's not even counting  stuff like the Complete fighter or the complete Magic User. Worlds of Wonder was maybe the closest of all of Chaosiums supplements of doing  just that, but it was  not close enough and the fact that it's been out of print for over 20 years isn't helping at all.

Stormbringer, Hawkmoon ,Pendragon are all great ( I'll pass on Elf Quest thank you) but if you don't  want to run  any of those settings, your kinda screwed :mad:
Title: Basic Roleplaying Quick-Start Edition
Post by: Drohem on April 17, 2009, 07:31:16 PM
Quote from: mrk;297259I'm talking about something much more modular and  that's not entirely based on someone else's world. that's one  of the many reasons why D&D is so vastly popular is with things like the Players and DM's guide ,they gives you enough leeway to run you own home brew campaign withou the need of making it a Forgotten Realms or Greyhawk campaign. Worlds of Wonder was maybe the closest of all of Chaosiums supplements of doing that, but it was  not close enough an the fact that it's been out of print for over 20 years doesn't make it any easier.

yeah, I hear what you are saying.  They really should have expanded the fantasy book of Worlds of Wonder into a generic fantasy game; i.e. something other than semi-historical fantasy Europe for RQ3, and Glorantha for RQ2.
Title: Basic Roleplaying Quick-Start Edition
Post by: frogspawner on January 06, 2010, 07:43:06 AM
Quote from: Drohem;296900The BRP Quickstart rules have been updated to 48-pages with a sample adventure.  
Updated BRP Quickstart Rules (http://catalog.chaosium.com/product_info.php?cPath=37&products_id=3700)

If you want to download it without registering with Chaosium, go here:
BRP Central downloads - BRP QuickStart (http://basicroleplaying.com/forum/downloads.php?do=file&id=307)

(It's available there with Chaosium's permission, I asked their guy Dustin Wright myself).