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Bad Actors Slandering Tonisborg

Started by RPGPundit, July 14, 2023, 12:38:58 AM

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RPGPundit

Some people have been going around YouTube and Twitter claiming that Tonisborg is a "woke product". I'm here to explain their real motive.
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What motivates the slander?  It seems stupid to go looking for goblins when there's ogres beating down the gates.
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blackstone

I think I'm going to get it. The paperback version is $30. Quite the bargain. Plus it's a bit of early RPG history most gamers aren't aware of.
1. I'm a married homeowner with a career and kids. I won life. You can't insult me.

2. I've been deployed to Iraq, so your tough guy act is boring.

Theory of Games

Quote from: BadApple on July 14, 2023, 03:03:17 AM
What motivates the slander?  It seems stupid to go looking for goblins when there's ogres beating down the gates.

Twitter People:

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BadApple

Quote from: Theory of Games on July 14, 2023, 11:26:30 AM
Quote from: BadApple on July 14, 2023, 03:03:17 AM
What motivates the slander?  It seems stupid to go looking for goblins when there's ogres beating down the gates.

Twitter People:



It doesn't help me understand the problem but I got a good laugh. 
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Svenhelgrim

Quote from: BadApple on July 14, 2023, 03:03:17 AM
What motivates the slander?  It seems stupid to go looking for goblins when there's ogres beating down the gates.

TLDR: Jeffro Johnson and his BROSR goons are trying to paint the publisher of Tonnisborg as a woke sissy, because said publisher ignores the BROSR, and in his book he wrote a paragraph about making the adventure your own.

Brad

Quote from: Svenhelgrim on July 14, 2023, 12:34:57 PM
TLDR: Jeffro Johnson and his BROSR goons are trying to paint the publisher of Tonnisborg as a woke sissy, because said publisher ignores the BROSR, and in his book he wrote a paragraph about making the adventure your own.

The nerve of that guy, expecting people to actually think.
It takes considerable knowledge just to realize the extent of your own ignorance.

Theory of Games

Yeah. But all this drama is getting stupid, honestly. These are grown-ass adults acting like children because somebody typed something they didn't like on Twitter. Get out much?? Probably not. It's like they are addicted to drama, so dependent on conflict that it doesn't matter whether they're right or wrong. It's the fight that's the thing for them.

Put 'em all on an island and let 'em fight it out Battle Royale-style Oh, and stream it live w/ no commercials like soccer 24/7. I could do a $9.99 monthly subscription fee for that. Just to see the BrOSR & SJWs massacre each other. THAT's must-see-TV!





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S'mon

From what's quoted in the video re Tonigsborg, I'd be less generous than Pundit though more generous than the BrOSR (I stand between the Darkness & the Light)  ;D

I find the idea that there has been a radical cultural shift since 1973 quite iffy. Maybe in US/UK academia, journalism, and the circles directly influenced by them. Maybe in the corporate halls of power, where Woke Corporatism is definitely A Thing. But, out in wider society? I'm not really seeing it. The big shift in the USA occurred over racial attitudes in the 1960s, and to a much lesser extent over sex/gender roles in the 1970s. Since the 1990s we have had creeping PC/SJWism/Wokism, but not a paradigm shift.
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S'mon

Quote from: Theory of Games on July 14, 2023, 02:28:48 PM
Just to see the BrOSR & SJWs massacre each other. THAT's must-see-TV!

I get the impression that the real fight here is between the Alt-Right BrOSR and Enlightenment Liberals* like Pundit, with Commie SJWs merely as observers.

*The Alt-Right used to call guys like Pundit, Jordan Peterson, & Carl Benjamin/Sargon the 'Alt-Lite'. To the SJWs, of course, Everyone's A Nazi.
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Baron

Quote from: blackstone on July 14, 2023, 09:48:14 AM
I think I'm going to get it. The paperback version is $30. Quite the bargain. Plus it's a bit of early RPG history most gamers aren't aware of.

Not trying to start anything here, but when a $30 paperback book is "quite the bargain" I feel like I've slipped into the Twilight Zone.

Theory of Games

Quote from: Baron on July 14, 2023, 05:16:37 PM
Quote from: blackstone on July 14, 2023, 09:48:14 AM
I think I'm going to get it. The paperback version is $30. Quite the bargain. Plus it's a bit of early RPG history most gamers aren't aware of.

Not trying to start anything here, but when a $30 paperback book is "quite the bargain" I feel like I've slipped into the Twilight Zone.

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RPGPundit

Quote from: blackstone on July 14, 2023, 09:48:14 AM
I think I'm going to get it. The paperback version is $30. Quite the bargain. Plus it's a bit of early RPG history most gamers aren't aware of.

It's a fantastic book.
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RPGPundit

Quote from: Baron on July 14, 2023, 05:16:37 PM
Quote from: blackstone on July 14, 2023, 09:48:14 AM
I think I'm going to get it. The paperback version is $30. Quite the bargain. Plus it's a bit of early RPG history most gamers aren't aware of.

Not trying to start anything here, but when a $30 paperback book is "quite the bargain" I feel like I've slipped into the Twilight Zone.

It's a big paperback. I'd say its certainly worth it.
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LORDS OF OLYMPUS
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Spinachcat

Quote from: RPGPundit on July 15, 2023, 02:22:06 AMIt's a fantastic book.

Why?

I downloaded the 11 page PDF from their KS and it didn't make much of an impression on me. What is jumping out for you to give it such praise?

Assuming we are talking about the same Tonisborg:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/secretsofblackmoor/the-lost-dungeons-of-tonisborg