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Backers pissed at James M. and Dwimmermount

Started by Benoist, September 13, 2012, 01:53:12 PM

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J Arcane

Quote from: VectorSigma;626538Can you see your duodenum from where your head is?


In other news, to reply to IRWS' comment about OSRites fleeing to G+ as some kind of protective measure...  I don't see it, at least not at the scale you're implying.  There are certainly some people who see the ability to mute/ignore/exclude as a feature of that platform; and there are absolutely people who enjoy taking advantage of that 'walled garden' they've set up for themselves.  But there are plenty of gamers ("OSR types" included) who are active on G+ and still pretty active on (some) forums.

Not wanting to read your (or anyone else's) stupid bullshit is not a moral failing.  It's the exercise of freedom of choice.
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Benoist

Quote from: J Arcane;626582Not wanting to read your (or anyone else's) stupid bullshit is not a moral failing.  It's the exercise of freedom of choice.

It is, and it makes you a person not able to take disagreement (or "stupidity") for an answer.

Aos

No it means that you want to spend time communicatng with people you actually fucking like, not random narcissitic and argumetative jackasses. I can see why that would be threatening to many forum trogs and mods.
You are posting in a troll thread.

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Benoist

Quote from: Gib;626603No it means that you want to spend time communicatng with people you actually fucking like, not random narcissitic and argumetative jackasses. I can see why that would be threatening to many forum trogs and mods.
Yeah, I can see how that applies to what you're actually doing right now.

How's the hate crusade going? Are you ready to take a deep breath, or are you so far down the hole you can't tell reality from fiction now, Alice?

VectorSigma

Quote from: Benoist;626589It is, and it makes you a person not able to take disagreement (or "stupidity") for an answer.

So because my G+ posts aren't public, I fear disagreement?  What a load of crap, Benoist.
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Aos

Why would I have anything to say to you? I know nothing of your job, your experience, or your life, is how you put it, I think. Obviously, my perceptions could nevereverevereeverever be based on experience of my own. And were they, how could they possibly be as valid as yours?
No, they must be PC bullshit.
Except they were not.
Work the rest out for yourself, if you can, and fuck you from the bottom of my tiny fucking heart.
You are posting in a troll thread.

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Benoist

Quote from: VectorSigma;626610So because my G+ posts aren't public, I fear disagreement?  What a load of crap, Benoist.

When you close your comments on your popular blog only to redirect them to G+, and then make everything subjected to whoever's in your circles or not, that makes you someone fearing disagreement, and welcoming the confirmation bias. For sure.

Benoist

Quote from: Gib;626614Why would I have anything to say to you? I know nothing of your job, your experience, or your life, is how you put it, I think. Obviously, my perceptions could nevereverevereeverever be based on experience of my own. And were they, how could they possibly be as valid as yours?
No, they must be PC bullshit.
Except they were not.
Work the rest out for yourself, if you can, and fuck you from the bottom of my tiny fucking heart.
Keep flailing around in anger like this. That is really making you sound mature.

Aos

There is message in that post for you if you have the wit to decode it.
Looking mature has never ever been a goal of mine, I mean,  obviously.
However, I wont go round and round with you, like your favorite posters do.
I'll make it easy for you, my next post will be the pundit's real name. You have ten minutes.
You are posting in a troll thread.

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Benoist

Quote from: Gib;626619There is message in that post for you if you have the wit to decode it.
Looking mature has never ever been a goal of mine, I mean,  obviously.
However, I wont go round and round with you, like your favorite posters do.
I'll make it easy for you, my next post will be the pundit's real name. You have ten minutes.

Well obviously, I'm not the one posting ranty posts about how much you suck and are wrong and how comparing this or that to my imagined issues makes you a terrible person. You are. You're blowing a fuse right now, and you need to really calm down. And yes, if you post the RPG Pundit's name, I'll ban you. You will have created the situation on your own, with previous warning indicating you know what the penalty is for doing such a thing, I might add. But I don't want to do that. I just don't. So come back to your senses, and stop posting like you are some 10-year-old having a tantrum. I like you. Don't be dumb. Thank you.

Aos

You are posting in a troll thread.

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VectorSigma

Quote from: Benoist;626615When you close your comments on your popular blog only to redirect them to G+, and then make everything subjected to whoever's in your circles or not, that makes you someone fearing disagreement, and welcoming the confirmation bias. For sure.

Ah, so you're just talking about Grognardia.  Got it.  These misunderstandings would be fewer if your brush were narrower, I think.  Let's all be clearer where possible.

I agree that getting rid of public commenting on a blog is...counter to the purpose of many blogs.  I might be biased, though, in that right after James did that he pretty much stopped adding anybody back on G+ (including me, despite two emails to him of the "hey, add me back pls" variety).  The full retreat indeed began long before Christmas.

After James set up a 'comment zone' in G+ for his blog, I did see several other OSR-type bloggers experiment with the same.  I've no idea if it's working for them, but I do know that if I'm reading a post on a blog and want to comment - and can't do it on the blog - I've yet to bother hopping over to G+ to comment.  If I learned about the blogpost through the G+ feed in the first place, that's a different animal.

I have no intention of closing my blog comments, ever, unless there were some horrible spam issue that couldn't be surmounted.  The blog is the blog, and my social media is my social media.  That said, although my G+ traffic with people I know and have gamed with is far more expansive than with people I don't know or have only recently "met", I'll gladly circle any gamer who actually uses the medium to talk about gaming.  Not their cat, not pictures of their food, and certainly not political/religious stuff.  That's a one-way ticket to the muted circle, I'm afraid.
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"Describing Erik Jensen\'s Wampus Country setting is difficult"  -- Grognardia

"Well worth reading."  -- Steve Winter

"...seriously nifty stuff..." -- Bruce Baugh

"[Erik is] the Carrot-Top of role-playing games." -- Jared Sorensen, who probably meant it as an insult, but screw that guy.

"Next con I\'m playing in Wampus."  -- Harley Stroh

Benoist

If all you're going about is just trolling for the lulz then no, I don't find it acceptable. You used to be witty and funny, and now it just sounds mean and frustrated. If you go ahead and post the Pundit's name knowing what the penalty is, I will ban you, Gib/Aos. Do not make me have to do this.

Aos

You are posting in a troll thread.

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