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Aunt Jemima vs. Da Tar Bebe

Started by James McMurray, January 22, 2007, 11:56:00 AM

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James McMurray

Thanks! Wanna go beat up some Muslems with me this weekend? ;)

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Quote from: James McMurrayThanks! Wanna go beat up some Muslems with me this weekend? ;)


Dude, if me calling stuff "gay" isn't cool, I don't think this is cool, even in jest...
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Cool. You're entitled to your opinion of course, but I think everyone here knows it wasn't derogatory towards Muslems, unlike using "gay" as an insult. Likewise, everyone probably knows it was a dig at Nox and his strange sense of non-Racist bigotry.

But if it causes a stir I'll happily delete it.

Dominus Nox

Quote from: James McMurrayThanks! Wanna go beat up some Muslems with me this weekend? ;)

Actually I prefer to hit their mosques while they're all inside banging their heads on the floor and waving their asses up in the air to praise that false god of theirs. ;)

Seriously, I wouldn't have the feelings I do towards the headbanging asswavers if they were just calling us bad names. When they start murdering people all over the world and having riots in which unarmed people are murdered because someone dared print a cartoon depicting their false prophet and seriously plan and intend to impose their barbaric, dark age lifestyle and culture on the world by force then I have hostility towards them.

Look, I hate Ann Coulter because of the poison she spews, but I don't advocate neutralizing her because she just talks. Now if she were to either take action to kill "liberals" or seriously encourage her followers to do so, then I might feel towards her the way I do towards muslims and want her stopped.


Ahh, most of the people here just don't get it so why bother? Maybe when muslims are using force on you directly, or on your country, your city, whatever, and forcing their ways on you and your fsamily personally you'll catch on.

When it's too damn late, like a lot of people in europe finally caught on that the new bunch in germany in the 30's wasn't just making rhetorhic but meant everything they said, a little bit late.
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James McMurray

Thanks, but the discussion isn't really about ethnic slurs. Although they do play a part in it, and are probably the quickest and easiest tools to use in a game.

jhkim

Quote from: Dominus NoxLook, I hate Ann Coulter because of the poison she spews, but I don't advocate neutralizing her because she just talks. Now if she were to either take action to kill "liberals" or seriously encourage her followers to do so, then I might feel towards her the way I do towards muslims and want her stopped.
Well, the issue here is that you're comparing judging Ann Coulter as an individual -- whereas you're judging all of Islam for the actions of a minority of extremists.  I think that this is a self-defeating approach, since attacking all of Islam IMO only makes the problem of terrorism worse.  I want muslim terrorists stopped -- and I think that the only way to do that is to join forces with the moderate muslims.  

Quote from: Dominus NoxAhh, most of the people here just don't get it so why bother? Maybe when muslims are using force on you directly, or on your country, your city, whatever, and forcing their ways on you and your fsamily personally you'll catch on.

When it's too damn late, like a lot of people in europe finally caught on that the new bunch in germany in the 30's wasn't just making rhetorhic but meant everything they said, a little bit late.
Well, I suspect some degree of this is part of human nature -- and I'm sure there is stuff I'm overlooking.  However, on the terrorism front my track record is pretty good.  I was part of the set who were screaming about the Taliban prior to 2001 -- but at the time we were generally dismissed as bleeding-heart liberals because our top complaints included their oppression of women and destruction of Buddhist and other cultural relics.  For that matter, I was also part of the set who were screaming about the horrors Saddam Hussein at the time when we were dealing arms to him in order to fund the Sandinistas.  And at the time we again were dismissed as idealists who didn't know what we were talking about.  

Apropos gaming, it's pretty common for my games to touch on racism.  I often have historical settings, and I hate the idea of whitewashing historical attitudes.

Dominus Nox

Y'know all you BRP (Broken Record People) out there are really going to end up hurting western civillization more than anyone or anything in history. Seriously, anytime anyone tries to warn people about the threat that radical islam poses, you scream him down with your twin cries of "RACIST!!! RACIST!!!" and your tired old litany of "It's just a few of them...just a few of them...just a few of them..."

Well, guess what? Sometimes it's the few that call the shots and make the dciscions. Hell, just a few germans were nazis, at first. People ignored their marches in the streets, their chants of "Death to jews!", their attacks on jewish property and so on until it was too fucking late.

But hey, your mind's set in concrete, I can't fucking convince you, so just go ahead and keep right on being a good little BRP and endlessly chanting "Racist!!!"  and "It's just a few of them!" because there are only two  ways things can go for you, and either one of them sucks.

One, either people finallky wake up to the truth and start figiting back against islamofascism, and along the way just absolutely crushing you BRPs into the dirt, or two, you manage to pacify the west into complacancy until radical islam takes over and you end up living under a taliban like regime.

I'm not worried about the latter alternative, because I'll have damn well died fighting those bastards before they take over, you BRP will be living under them and get to see how much "tolerance" they have for other views.
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Quote from: Dominus NoxHmm, just out of curiousity, do you also object to terms like "Honkie" and "cracker"?

No, nor do I object to other words for blacks.  I think the problem is that as a white person, I associate the use of that particular word with the sort of white bigot who will never use that word with black people around but throw it around with reckless abandon as soon as they are out of sight.  As someone with friends of many races, that experience (not all that common, but I've had it happen) always given me a really ickly feeling.  And that's what I think about when I hear it.  That, and gangsta rappers, who are only slightly higher on my scale.

Quote from: Dominus NoxI ask because I've noticed that a lot of people who tend to object about certain "racist" terms don't seem to mind when equally offensive racist terms are used by other groups against other groups.

I don't think that particular term is equally offensive to the terms you used.  They are closer to the second-tier terms you might hear Archie Bunker using on TV.  I have heard blacks spew equally offensive slurs at whites (there was a particularly vile group that used to rant away in Midtown Manhattan with a megaphone) but those ain't it.  And, yes, I'd probably discourage that sort of talk, too.
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John Morrow

Quote from: droogWikipedia's list of ethnic slurs.

They are missing a few.  Probably more than a few.
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Dominus Nox

Interestingly enough, some ethnic slurs cut both ways. For example, in some parts of the american heartland, "Moon cricket" is a slur against blacks for some reason, whereas indians tend to use the same term as a slur against whites, claiming that white people's faces remind them of full moons, and their high pitched voices remind them of cricket chirpings.
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Tyberious Funk

Quote from: Dominus NoxSeriously, anytime anyone tries to warn people about the threat that radical islam poses

Actually, I'm more worried about the threat that the US poses.
 

Kyle Aaron

Quote from: Tyberious FunkActually, I'm more worried about the threat that the US poses.
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Quote from: Dominus NoxActually I prefer to hit their mosques while they're all inside banging their heads on the floor and waving their asses up in the air to praise that false god of theirs. ;)

Quick note of interest, but the Moslem god is the Christian god and started out as the Jewish god.  If that still makes it a false god - fair enough - but if you were unaware of the fact I thought it best to inform you.

Course I wish they'd all (all three sects that is) fuck off back to the desert and leave me the Hel alone.