Quote from: Black Vulmea;620597What are you basing this on? Your personal review of every piece of gaming art in the last fifteen years? Or the general impression that, since Pathfinder has a black woman paladin in plate armor, everything's now hunky-dory, and it's just 'those overly sensitive people' who can't see how things really are?

An extensive collection of gamebooks that do not include any cheesecake art. And having an art degree and as someone who used to regularly draw and sell cheesecake art (to a majority female customer base, amusingly enough), I am confident in my ability to recognize it, yes.

Quote from: Piestrio;620766Yeah, one thing that's confusing for people is that the modern fitness model, athlete, and bodybuilder (at the extreme) is an aberration.

Heroically they're too lean.

For most human history big=strong in a way I think modern people interpret as fat.

Look at powerlifters, look at strongmen, hell look at a lot of blue collar workers.

The historical knight is more likely to look like "big joe" who hauls pipes down at the plant than Hans Flexinstuff on the cover of this months "Totally not porno musclemag"

Not to mention that throughout the majority of history, attractive meant curvy with some meat on your bones.  None of this anorexic 1990s crap.

Quote from: mythusmage;620603If Americans weren't so scared of fucking, you wouldn't have half the comments you do about sex in art; nor would you have half the sex in art.

Actually, thats exactly why you do. By making sex a "dirty, secret" by way of a puritanical system of media censorship, and the pervasive belief sex "corrupts", it becomes an obsession.

Quote from: Sacrosanct;620760You can't really tell from the pic, but I'm sure you all have seen this movie and knows how tall she is compared to everyone else.  This is a woman who is believable as a warrior.

What movie is that?

Quote from: TristramEvans;620774What movie is that?

the 2nd official D&D movie.  Dragon Wrath or something like that.  100x better than the 1st official D&D movie

Quote from: Ratman_tf;620757I like implausibly sexy cheesecake. I like Red Sonja's chainmail bikini and the slutty Drow costumes.
Maybe that says something about me, maybe not, but I don't and won't agonize over it.

the Chainmail Bikini works fine for Red Sonja, because its her superhero costume. It doesn't need to be any more practical than Superman's outfit. But it wouldn't make sense in any kind of "realistic" or "gritty" fantasy, anymore than Marvel's loincloth Conan.

Quote from: TristramEvans;620769An extensive collection of gamebooks that do not include any cheesecake art. And having an art degree and as someone who used to regularly draw and sell cheesecake art (to a majority female customer base, amusingly enough), I am confident in my ability to recognize it, yes.

I can also attest anecdotally that the vast majority of those I came across who knew the artists and origins of cheesecake art were women. They were also the largest creators and consumers of slash fiction, anthropomorphized art/porn, and were the first to scan through my RPGs for sexy pictures. I still think the '90s shift of sexy-edgy art towards White Wolf helped explode their female fan base popularity.

Quote from: TristramEvans;620774What movie is that?

I believe that is Ellie Chidzey, who played the barbarian Lux, in Dungeons & Dragons: Wrath of the Dragon God.

She is 5'11", athletic and was quite good playing a warrior.

Quote from: Exploderwizard;620778I believe that is Ellie Chidzey, who played the barbarian Lux, in Dungeons & Dragons: Wrath of the Dragon God.

She is 5'11", athletic and was quite good playing a warrior.

Ah, the D&D sequels. I have not owned enough pot to consider renting them yet.I still make due with Hawk the Slayer.

Quote from: Sacrosanct;620775the 2nd official D&D movie.  Dragon Wrath or something like that.  100x better than the 1st official D&D movie

And will be 100x better than the third one, if the trailer is any judge.

Quote from: flyerfan1991;620784And will be 100x better than the third one, if the trailer is any judge.

There already is a 3rd one.  I saw it on Sci-Fi the other day.  It was the worst of them all.  The main guy literally just walked into a magic shop and bought these rare artifacts like he was on an old version of Wheel of Fortune during the Showcase Showdown.

Quote from: jibbajibba;620658and a waist too tiny to support her back and some sort of power armout outflow on her back..

A real female knight looks like this -



Which is to say pretty much liek a male knight

Yep, Game of Thrones.  I figured she'd make it onto the thread.

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although the hair is going to be a real pain in the arse..or the head.

The easy way to deal with the hair --outside of slicing it off-- is to braid it and tie it up.  That way you can keep your locks, but they're out of the way when it is time to fight.  Sure, it wouldn't look as cool as this pic, but it is doable.

Of course, if the warrior tradition in her country has a lot of long haired warriors, tying back the hair isn't an issue.

Quote from: flyerfan1991;620784And will be 100x better than the third one, if the trailer is any judge.

It is. I (sadly) have watched the 3rd one. It is awful. The 2nd is the best of them and wouldn't be bad if they had left Mr. lipstick out of it.

Quote from: Exploderwizard;620789It is. I (sadly) have watched the 3rd one. It is awful. The 2nd is the best of them and wouldn't be bad if they had left Mr. lipstick out of it.

I went on IMDB to read the user reviews of the 3rd one.  Almost all of them were very positive.  I guess WoTC had their employees all log on, because some of things they were saying was outright stupid.  WotDG wasn't a great movie by any means, but when half of those reviews said that WotDG sucked and BoVD was awesome, somebody is on something.

Quote from: BedrockBrendan;620759Yeah, that is what i am thinking. Fighters dont need to look like body builders, but they should, at the very least, like people who fight for a living. I have a hard time when it looks like they couldn't even lift their sword because they've been living off saltines and water. And dont be affraid to give female warriors medium builds (Gina Corano is an excellent example-----EDIT on second thought she probably isnt medium build).

I get what you're saying, but I prefer both male and female fighters to be skinny. I'm a rather girly looking man myself and I simply find it easier to imagine myself as those kind of folks - I don't really have any idea what it means to be a buff dude.

Also, when you're looking at essentially superhuman characters, at some point it ceases to matter how much muscle mass they really have - if they can punch out a dragon, they can punch out a dragon. It's for a similar reason that I really appreciate impractical and largely useless outfits - when someone lives a life of fighting and openly eschews advantages provided by sensible and protective gear, that's how you know who you should really not mess with.

edit: Wen Yu Li has my back. This is canonically the strongest man in the Anima setting.

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Quote from: Sacrosanct;620775the 2nd official D&D movie.  Dragon Wrath or something like that.  100x better than the 1st official D&D movie

I seem to remember it having been filmed in Lithuania?