Quote from: Enlightened;742418I personally use drunk to mean "I can feel the alcohol in me" (and if you're drinking and you can't feel the alcohol in you then what's the point?)

Some of us actually enjoy the flavor of certain forms of alcoholic beverages.

If I could get an alcohol-free Guinness, or IPA, or good Cabernet Sauvignon, et al, that was indistinguishable from the same thing with alcohol, I'd buy that.

Quote from: Alathon;742329Disclosure:  Where I live, both are legal.

I can kinda see the alcohol vs weed thing.  Clearly it's mostly all about whatever the people at the table are about, but they are different drugs and have different impacts on how people act.  I've run drunk, and run stoned, and while I'd argue the former was a somewhat more successful campaign, there were also more telling mistakes/miscues as a GM.

Alcohol lubricates in a way weed doesn't.  Alcohol makes it easier to get angry and fuck up for some reason.  Alcohol doesn't slow you down in the same ways weed does, you can keep snappy conversation going longer, within limits, as long as you're used to doing that while drinking.  Alcohol can replace snacks/food, weed does the opposite.   Alcohol doesn't totally ruin your recall at the low end, the way even moderate weed use does.  Alcohol makes for faster response times in situations where a slow back-and-forth can make things dreary, such as combat.  Too much alcohol is severely injurious or fatal, and it's rarely obvious when your carriage is degrading until it's degraded a lot.  Alcohol can easily be consumed during game without inflicting alcohol on anyone else.

Weed chills you out, it's hard to ever lose your shit smoking up.  Weed makes you kinda dopey and slow rather than assertive-->aggressive-->angry.  Weed makes for a lot of hilarious one-off ideas, the value of which depends heavily on whether your campaign benefits from ninjas stealing mountains.  Weed tends to lead to munchies.  Weed leads to slower responses to anything and everything.  Too much weed is no biggie, and the progression from stoned to hella stoned is far easier to track.  Weed often requires it's own time, and if you do it during the game, even with a hand-held vape or a table-top, the smell of it is inflicted on everyone in the room.

That's my experience as well. Moderate amounts of pot are likely to screw up the game more than moderate amounts of alcohol, but in higher dosages the risk flips.

Quote from: Simlasa;742005Though I've heard stories I've somehow managed to never sit at a gaming table where people were drinking/smoking pot...
except for one very bad night of Trivial Pursuit (I can never drink mescal again...).

There's a difference between "had a couple of beers / joints" and "off your face".

One is fine, the other not, and given that we're all adults I don't think we need to go into more detail. We play at a pub, so some of his have a couple of beers... I would too, if I wasn't driving.

Smoking at the table though, no, anyone wanting to do that can go away or - better still - learn to cope for a few hours without their addiction.

The community has some truly amazing episodes; most of them from the first and second season, mind you.

Anyways, I would be way more interested in reading Pendleton Ward's D&D tips than Harmon's.

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Quote from: RPGPundit;743315Anyways, I would be way more interested in reading Pendleton Ward's D&D tips than Harmon's.

Hear hear!

Quote from: thedungeondelver;741985http://www.toplessrobot.com/2014/04/10_dd_tips_from_dan_harmon_and_his_dungeon_master.php

Anyone follow these?

The proof is in their LIVE Hangout session. Is there one?

Quote from: LibraryLass;743322Hear hear!

I'll say this, he's been a truly huge influence on my DCC campaign setting.

Like most lists of advice from any D&D player or GM, some of the tips are valuable, some are useless. I thought the Bag of Holding one was funny, but useless. The "take breaks" one was valuable.

I've played in teetotaler groups before, in groups where multiple cases of beer, bottles of scotch, and grams of weed were consumed, and in games where moderation ruled the roost. My personal preference is to be in the teetotaler group, mostly because I don't drink, do drugs, or smoke any more and I'd rather not be around those things all that much. Though if someone in my current D&D group cracks a beer or two over a five hour session I'm not exactly going to complain.

That's me, though. Different strokes for different folks. I've seen a guy take two hits off a joint and be completely useless for the rest of the game. Equally, I've seen guys put down a fifth all to themselves in the span of an hour and be rock-solid for the rest of the session. All depends.

Edit: Also, I quite like Harmon's stuff. Community is one of my favorite shows, though there is the occasional swing in quality. The various D&D episodes are absolutely great, though they're likely to piss off people expecting to see D&D portrayed absolutely correctly with no comedic variance.

Long before Community, Dan Harmon was also part of the group that made this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-leYc4oC83E

(just the audio skit, not the 8-bit reenactors.)

Quote from: hexgrid;744233Long before Community, Dan Harmon was also part of the group that made this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-leYc4oC83E

(just the audio skit, not the 8-bit reenactors.)

Well, Hell. No wonder Abed wears a Dead Alewives t-shirt for much of this season of Community.

Quote from: hexgrid;744233Long before Community, Dan Harmon was also part of the group that made this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-leYc4oC83E

(just the audio skit, not the 8-bit reenactors.)

Huh! How about that.

Quote from: LibraryLass;744241Huh! How about that.

Think it's pretty obvious that this was intended as tongue in cheek at the very least. It's not that funny but apparently it was over most peoples head. Guess it helps if you know who Dan Harmon is and been exposed to his writing. You should read the article on SRS. It's a terrible disease but this is hope....

https://medium.com/@abobrow/d703b80ff3e5