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Are TTRPG communities hopelessly woke?

Started by Socratic-DM, December 19, 2023, 06:16:57 PM

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yosemitemike

There's also quite a bit of stuff, like the UNIT book, that could be used with any Doctor.  Some of the adventures feature whoever was the current Doctor when they came out but you could easily swap them out for any incarnation.  It's not exactly hard to make a Doctor Who adventure anyway.     
"I am certain, however, that nothing has done so much to destroy the juridical safeguards of individual freedom as the striving after this mirage of social justice."― Friedrich Hayek
Another former RPGnet member permanently banned for calling out the staff there on their abdication of their responsibilities as moderators and admins and their abject surrender to the whims of the shrillest and most self-righteous members of the community.

Grognard GM

Quote from: yosemitemike on December 26, 2023, 06:50:17 AM
There's also quite a bit of stuff, like the UNIT book, that could be used with any Doctor.  Some of the adventures feature whoever was the current Doctor when they came out but you could easily swap them out for any incarnation.  It's not exactly hard to make a Doctor Who adventure anyway.

I have 6 incarnations of my own Time Lord already plotted out, because I am mentally ill.
I'm a middle aged guy with a lot of free time, looking for similar, to form a group for regular gaming. You should be chill, non-woke, and have time on your hands.

See below:

https://www.therpgsite.com/news-and-adverts/looking-to-form-a-group-of-people-with-lots-of-spare-time-for-regular-games/

oggsmash

  I can not remember the line or who said it, but something along the lines of any institution or organization that is not overtly right wing will over time become left wing rings in my head.  This is because woke people/lefties/whatever are OBSESSED with their world view and enforcing pushing it becomes their part time job/hobby if not their full time job...a literal religion. 

   I have no plans or attempts to convert the people who would never see my worldview and my preference is to say live and let live.  However if they rather constantly get at me and try to force their worldview and "convert" me or silence me if I do not approve of their degenerate lives or thoughts....well where does that lead?  Reality is the "just want to be left alone" is a big old dinner bell ringing for nutjob lefties.  They will come and force you to capitulate to their position or remove you and that is all there is to it.

Grognard GM

Quote from: oggsmash on December 26, 2023, 04:39:27 PM
  I can not remember the line or who said it, but something along the lines of any institution or organization that is not overtly right wing will over time become left wing rings in my head.  This is because woke people/lefties/whatever are OBSESSED with their world view and enforcing pushing it becomes their part time job/hobby if not their full time job...a literal religion. 

   I have no plans or attempts to convert the people who would never see my worldview and my preference is to say live and let live.  However if they rather constantly get at me and try to force their worldview and "convert" me or silence me if I do not approve of their degenerate lives or thoughts....well where does that lead?  Reality is the "just want to be left alone" is a big old dinner bell ringing for nutjob lefties.  They will come and force you to capitulate to their position or remove you and that is all there is to it.

Which is why Enworld is doomed/slowly corroding. "No politics, everyone just be cool" seems like a good mid-ground stance on the surface, but live-and-let-live ALWAYS falls to the intolerant.

"Hey man, if you keep up with the 'zombies are battering down my barricade, please send help' posts, we're going to ban you. After all, we don't post propaganda from the zombies either."
I'm a middle aged guy with a lot of free time, looking for similar, to form a group for regular gaming. You should be chill, non-woke, and have time on your hands.

See below:

https://www.therpgsite.com/news-and-adverts/looking-to-form-a-group-of-people-with-lots-of-spare-time-for-regular-games/

Steven Mitchell

Quote from: oggsmash on December 26, 2023, 04:39:27 PM
  I can not remember the line or who said it, but something along the lines of any institution or organization that is not overtly right wing will over time become left wing rings in my head. 

Supposedly Robert Conquest's 2nd law of politics, though it's difficult to track online, and I don't know if he really said it or not.  I've always thought his 3rd law was WotC to a T:  "The simplest way to explain the behavior of any bureaucratic organization is to assume that is it controlled by a cabal of its enemies." :)

yosemitemike

Quote from: Grognard GM on December 26, 2023, 06:58:37 AM
Quote from: yosemitemike on December 26, 2023, 06:50:17 AM
There's also quite a bit of stuff, like the UNIT book, that could be used with any Doctor.  Some of the adventures feature whoever was the current Doctor when they came out but you could easily swap them out for any incarnation.  It's not exactly hard to make a Doctor Who adventure anyway.

I have 6 incarnations of my own Time Lord already plotted out, because I am mentally ill.

The scenarios do rather assume that the Time Lord is a wandering do-gooder like The Doctor.  They assume that the Time Lord will care about what is going on and try to stop or fix it.  They also tend to assume that you have an old, cranky TARDIS that tends to take you to the plot rather than where/whenever you were trying to go. 
"I am certain, however, that nothing has done so much to destroy the juridical safeguards of individual freedom as the striving after this mirage of social justice."― Friedrich Hayek
Another former RPGnet member permanently banned for calling out the staff there on their abdication of their responsibilities as moderators and admins and their abject surrender to the whims of the shrillest and most self-righteous members of the community.

Grognard GM

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Quote from: yosemitemike on December 26, 2023, 08:41:11 PM
Quote from: Grognard GM on December 26, 2023, 06:58:37 AM
Quote from: yosemitemike on December 26, 2023, 06:50:17 AM
There's also quite a bit of stuff, like the UNIT book, that could be used with any Doctor.  Some of the adventures feature whoever was the current Doctor when they came out but you could easily swap them out for any incarnation.  It's not exactly hard to make a Doctor Who adventure anyway.

I have 6 incarnations of my own Time Lord already plotted out, because I am mentally ill.

The scenarios do rather assume that the Time Lord is a wandering do-gooder like The Doctor.  They assume that the Time Lord will care about what is going on and try to stop or fix it.  They also tend to assume that you have an old, cranky TARDIS that tends to take you to the plot rather than where/whenever you were trying to go.

Not a problem, he ticks all the boxes  ;D I'm just putting my own spin on an iconic concept, throwing the baby out with the bathwater would be self-harming, and result in something lesser.

What if a different Time Lord, with different regenerations, had adventures in the Who universe is the basic vibe. Homage without actually just playing The Doctor.

PS - I've heard that the old adventures tend to build stuff around the concept that the C.I.A. (no, not that one!) send your character to X to fix a problem. But I also heard it's easy as pie to swap that with "you just happen to land here, and there's a problem to fix." I much prefer the time and space nomad approach, to the agent of the grand high mucky-mucks. Gallifrey can go piss up a rope.
I'm a middle aged guy with a lot of free time, looking for similar, to form a group for regular gaming. You should be chill, non-woke, and have time on your hands.

See below:

https://www.therpgsite.com/news-and-adverts/looking-to-form-a-group-of-people-with-lots-of-spare-time-for-regular-games/

Korvosa

Once a forum has rules like this "through your use of this forum, that you will not post any material which is false, defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane"
Its already over
Its the rules of this forum

Grognard GM

Quote from: Korvosa on December 26, 2023, 11:47:48 PM
Once a forum has rules like this "through your use of this forum, that you will not post any material which is false, defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane"
Its already over
Its the rules of this forum

Greetings sock puppet/alt account/returning banned shit-stirrer!
I'm a middle aged guy with a lot of free time, looking for similar, to form a group for regular gaming. You should be chill, non-woke, and have time on your hands.

See below:

https://www.therpgsite.com/news-and-adverts/looking-to-form-a-group-of-people-with-lots-of-spare-time-for-regular-games/

Korvosa

I was signing up as the true noob to respond to this post (before I post my own) and saw the rules. Felt like these rules are often used by woke communities to create woke space, Its literally my only account

Venka

Quote from: Korvosa on December 27, 2023, 01:32:01 AM
Felt like these rules are often used by woke communities to create woke space, Its literally my only account

No, that's not true at all.  Normally a community that is trying to do that will have a "no hatespeech" rule, which will be broad enough to include everything.  Often they will simply say "This is leftist community / forum / subreddit" and simply ban anyone who disagrees. Other times they will insist that people flair or identify themselves and then ban the politically impure from certain heated threads (obviously you can lie about this, but if you go into one of those threads and make a good point while wearing your commie tag, your post will be deleted and you'll be banned).

The rules here are pretty standard, especially to avoid goreposting and porn and other such medulla-triggering internet tricks, along with general bad behavior.

yosemitemike

Quote from: Grognard GM on December 26, 2023, 09:42:33 PM

Not a problem, he ticks all the boxes  ;D I'm just putting my own spin on an iconic concept, throwing the baby out with the bathwater would be self-harming, and result in something lesser.

What if a different Time Lord, with different regenerations, had adventures in the Who universe is the basic vibe. Homage without actually just playing The Doctor.

PS - I've heard that the old adventures tend to build stuff around the concept that the C.I.A. (no, not that one!) send your character to X to fix a problem. But I also heard it's easy as pie to swap that with "you just happen to land here, and there's a problem to fix." I much prefer the time and space nomad approach, to the agent of the grand high mucky-mucks. Gallifrey can go piss up a rope.

The Cubicle 7 adventures assume that you will be playing the Doctor and companions with a sidebar of suggestions if you are not doing that.  It assumes that the Time Lord will be some version of The Doctor but most of what is on those characters would apply just as much to any Time Lord.  At the start of Nu-Who we were told that Gallifrey was destroyed and the other Time Lords were all dead.  Now we know that none of that was ever true.

No, no.  That's not how Doctor Who works.  Those people would be useless at best if not active obstacles or villains.  There's no need for that sort of framework anyway.  You can just start it the same way 90+% of Doctor Who arcs start.  It's not complicated.  You arrive.  It's not where you wanted to be or maybe it is.  There's a mystery.  Odd things are happening.  Bad things are happening.  Let's investigate.  Done. 
"I am certain, however, that nothing has done so much to destroy the juridical safeguards of individual freedom as the striving after this mirage of social justice."― Friedrich Hayek
Another former RPGnet member permanently banned for calling out the staff there on their abdication of their responsibilities as moderators and admins and their abject surrender to the whims of the shrillest and most self-righteous members of the community.

Korvosa

Quote from: Venka on December 27, 2023, 03:36:44 AM
Quote from: Korvosa on December 27, 2023, 01:32:01 AM
Felt like these rules are often used by woke communities to create woke space, Its literally my only account

Normally a community that is trying to do that will have a "no hatespeech" rule, which will be broad enough to include everything. 

Sounds like you didnt read my post fully

This forum does not allow posting material that is hateful. That more than just hate speech and can mean anything

BadApple

Quote from: Korvosa on December 27, 2023, 06:51:07 AM
Quote from: Venka on December 27, 2023, 03:36:44 AM
Quote from: Korvosa on December 27, 2023, 01:32:01 AM
Felt like these rules are often used by woke communities to create woke space, Its literally my only account

Normally a community that is trying to do that will have a "no hatespeech" rule, which will be broad enough to include everything. 

Sounds like you didnt read my post fully

This forum does not allow posting material that is hateful. That more than just hate speech and can mean anything

It's all in the application and definition.  Some form of community policing is necessary to keep the site from going to shit and the mods here are doing their best to thread the needle between a good moderation and freedom of speech.  If you're concerned about a rule believing it is used or could be used in a way you're not comfortable with, contact the administrator directly for clarification.  This site is owned and operated by RPGPundit and he is responsive to those that reach out to him. 

Also:  https://www.therpgsite.com/the-rpgpundit-s-own-forum/notice-don-t-come-in-if-you-re-going-to-have-a-bad-time-show-some-self-control/
And:  https://www.therpgsite.com/the-rpgpundit-s-own-forum/this-is-why-we-don-t-like-you/
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Venka

Quote from: Korvosa on December 27, 2023, 06:51:07 AM
Sounds like you didnt read my post fully

This forum does not allow posting material that is hateful. That more than just hate speech and can mean anything

So that's not technically correct but I see where you are coming from.  "Hate speech" is a made up political term.  It just means "anything we don't agree with here".  Being hateful is a different thing entirely.  If English wasn't being abused by political actors, "hate speech" would have some actual tight definition (or at least not an ever-growing one).  For instance, if you posted racial crime statistics, that would not be "hate speech" by any of the proposed definitions I heard when I was young.  But in practice, that would get you kicked or banned today from places with "hate speech" rules, and would likely be illegal in some jurisdictions as "hate speech" today.

By contrast, hateful material wouldn't be that.