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Are TTRPG communities hopelessly woke?

Started by Socratic-DM, December 19, 2023, 06:16:57 PM

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KindaMeh

Quote from: Mistwell on December 23, 2023, 09:46:27 PM
Why is everyone harshing Pawsplay? Dude's been around TTRPG circles for a long time. Decades I think?

Fair enough, I guess. I think part of it might just have been (possibly mis)perceived hostility and the fact that these days folks are sensitive to that kind of thing regardless of political alignment or identity or the like. I probably took it a bit more personally than I myself should have too. Part of it also I think is that a lot of people take that kind of thing within a more recent Woke society context and assume it's meant as criticism of their own identity or an attempt to assert authority through identity or something. If he's been here that long, I'll try to mellow out a bit and give him more of the benefit of the doubt.

pawsplay

Quote from: Eirikrautha on December 23, 2023, 08:12:05 PM
I don't have to post I'm male or hetero every other post, because no one cares and no one might think I'm "special" because of it.  Which is the main reason for all of these "celebrations" of sex or race.  When you, as a person, have no accomplishments or achievements that make you noteworthy, you need to pick other characteristics to celebrate.

Why are you bringing it up? Do you think it gives you some kind of moral authority? Stop beating me on the head with your sexuality.

yosemitemike

Quote from: pawsplay on December 23, 2023, 10:38:35 PM
Quote from: Eirikrautha on December 23, 2023, 08:12:05 PM
I don't have to post I'm male or hetero every other post, because no one cares and no one might think I'm "special" because of it.  Which is the main reason for all of these "celebrations" of sex or race.  When you, as a person, have no accomplishments or achievements that make you noteworthy, you need to pick other characteristics to celebrate.

Why are you bringing it up? Do you think it gives you some kind of moral authority? Stop beating me on the head with your sexuality.

He said that he doesn't feel the need to bring it up?  Are you trying to pretend he said the opposite or are you just fucking simple?
"I am certain, however, that nothing has done so much to destroy the juridical safeguards of individual freedom as the striving after this mirage of social justice."― Friedrich Hayek
Another former RPGnet member permanently banned for calling out the staff there on their abdication of their responsibilities as moderators and admins and their abject surrender to the whims of the shrillest and most self-righteous members of the community.

KindaMeh

I think it was an attempted joke, in that he feels his earlier statement was misinterpreted similarly. (Which I guess to some degree it may have been? NGL, if Mistwell hadn't vouched that he was a longtime member of the community and that this wasn't standard, I'd have joined the dog pile. I was sort of writing something up before I saw that and took the opportunity to cool off, TBH.)

pawsplay

Quote from: yosemitemike on December 23, 2023, 11:24:00 PM
Quote from: pawsplay on December 23, 2023, 10:38:35 PM
Quote from: Eirikrautha on December 23, 2023, 08:12:05 PM
I don't have to post I'm male or hetero every other post, because no one cares and no one might think I'm "special" because of it.  Which is the main reason for all of these "celebrations" of sex or race.  When you, as a person, have no accomplishments or achievements that make you noteworthy, you need to pick other characteristics to celebrate.

Why are you bringing it up? Do you think it gives you some kind of moral authority? Stop beating me on the head with your sexuality.

He said that he doesn't feel the need to bring it up?  Are you trying to pretend he said the opposite or are you just fucking simple?

I'm just going by the standard that was set out for me. Mentioning your sexuality inline to any discussion is apparently weaponizing it.

KindaMeh

I'm sorry yosemitemike, the censors have commanded me deliver unto you a grave message. You are henceforth forbidden to bring up Jason Momoa. We all know he has been (correctly) referred to as Big Sexy. In this context he is verboten.

yosemitemike

Hey!  I used the proper sobriquet.

Quote from: pawsplay on December 24, 2023, 12:55:30 AM
I'm just going by the standard that was set out for me. Mentioning your sexuality inline to any discussion is apparently weaponizing it.

You're either illiterate or deliberately misrepresenting what others have said.  The latter seems more likely.
"I am certain, however, that nothing has done so much to destroy the juridical safeguards of individual freedom as the striving after this mirage of social justice."― Friedrich Hayek
Another former RPGnet member permanently banned for calling out the staff there on their abdication of their responsibilities as moderators and admins and their abject surrender to the whims of the shrillest and most self-righteous members of the community.

BadApple

Quote from: Mistwell on December 23, 2023, 09:46:27 PM
Why is everyone harshing Pawsplay? Dude's been around TTRPG circles for a long time. Decades I think?

Because the dude has posted in some thirty different threads with over a hundred combined posts in just a few days and the vast majority of them were deliberate attempts to derail the conversation or to instigate hostilities with another poster.  I don't care if Pawsplay taught Gary Gygax how to play, hostile is hostile.
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GeekyBugle

Quote from: Mistwell on December 23, 2023, 09:46:27 PM
Why is everyone harshing Pawsplay? Dude's been around TTRPG circles for a long time. Decades I think?

Besides him being a fucktard with inferiority and persecution complex?
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Chris24601

Quote from: BadApple on December 24, 2023, 05:17:28 AM
Quote from: Mistwell on December 23, 2023, 09:46:27 PM
Why is everyone harshing Pawsplay? Dude's been around TTRPG circles for a long time. Decades I think?

Because the dude has posted in some thirty different threads with over a hundred combined posts in just a few days and the vast majority of them were deliberate attempts to derail the conversation or to instigate hostilities with another poster.  I don't care if Pawsplay taught Gary Gygax how to play, hostile is hostile.
Their mental illness has progressed from something affecting only themselves to the negatively impacting others stage. In the olden days we could get them help, but these days the progressives in charge are perfectly happy with the mentally ill living in the streets and harassing passers by.

Omega

Quote from: Grognard GM on December 19, 2023, 08:15:44 PM
Yesterday I was looking for reviews of the Adventures In Time And Space game, with an eye to using it with the old FASA Doctor Who adventures (classic lore with a more modern game system.) Most of the hits I got were from the big purple, so I just skipped over them.

A big, popular gaming forum, plenty of posts to get an average feel for a game, so it should be a useful resource. Except I don't trust a word their members have to say, especially about anything related to the increasingly woke Nu-Who franchise.

A large resource one can't trust, is more useless than a small limited resource. I'd rather go to a GeoCities fansite full of dead links than trawl rpg.net

The sort of solo variable path adventure one? There was a big discussion of it on BGG which is also very woke. But eventually the designer moved it to Yahoo Groups and started posting expansions only for a short time then pulling them, and other behavior that didnt sit well. All gone now. I have most of the books up to a point.

Grognard GM

#41
Quote from: Omega on December 25, 2023, 09:42:45 PM
Quote from: Grognard GM on December 19, 2023, 08:15:44 PM
Yesterday I was looking for reviews of the Adventures In Time And Space game, with an eye to using it with the old FASA Doctor Who adventures (classic lore with a more modern game system.) Most of the hits I got were from the big purple, so I just skipped over them.

A big, popular gaming forum, plenty of posts to get an average feel for a game, so it should be a useful resource. Except I don't trust a word their members have to say, especially about anything related to the increasingly woke Nu-Who franchise.

A large resource one can't trust, is more useless than a small limited resource. I'd rather go to a GeoCities fansite full of dead links than trawl rpg.net

The sort of solo variable path adventure one? There was a big discussion of it on BGG which is also very woke. But eventually the designer moved it to Yahoo Groups and started posting expansions only for a short time then pulling them, and other behavior that didnt sit well. All gone now. I have most of the books up to a point.

No, I mean the 7 official adventures for the FASA Doctor Who game from '85-'86.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Doctor_Who_Role_Playing_Game

And Adventures In Time And Space (later editions called simply Doctor Who Roleplaying Game)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_Who_Roleplaying_Game

My bucket list is to find a GM that loves classic Who, and only classic Who, where I can play a Time Lord, with a player or two as Companions. If I ever find this unicorn, I shall chain them in my basement, and make them run adventures.

I thought I could maybe go into the old FASA adventures myself, and update the stats (to save a theoretical GM the hassle) but even when trying to be very careful, I found myself seeing spoilers, so scratch that idea.

So now my basement unicorn has to also be cool updating old modules. That should drop my pool of potential candidates on Earth from 3 to 0.
I'm a middle aged guy with a lot of free time, looking for similar, to form a group for regular gaming. You should be chill, non-woke, and have time on your hands.

See below:

https://www.therpgsite.com/news-and-adverts/looking-to-form-a-group-of-people-with-lots-of-spare-time-for-regular-games/

palaeomerus

Beware when your fandom or hobby suddenly becomes a community.

Communities get organized.

You didn't buy shares or sign a charter. There is no TOS.
Tell the organizers to kick rocks when they object to your polite "no".
Emery

yosemitemike

#43
Quote from: Grognard GM on December 25, 2023, 11:06:34 PM
My bucket list is to find a GM that loves classic Who, and only classic Who, where I can play a Time Lord, with a player or two as Companions. If I ever find this unicorn, I shall chain them in my basement, and make them run adventures.

I thought I could maybe go into the old FASA adventures myself, and update the stats (to save a theoretical GM the hassle) but even when trying to be very careful, I found myself seeing spoilers, so scratch that idea.

So now my basement unicorn has to also be cool updating old modules. That should drop my pool of potential candidates on Earth from 3 to 0.

I couldn't find a single player for classic Doctor Who.  I don't own any of the FASA stuff but I have pretty much everything for the Cubicle 7 version from a Humble Bundle.  There's plenty of material for classic Who in the sourcebooks.  I don't own any of those old adventures but I don't think it would be that hard to redo them for the newer version.  If they use classic enemies, it would mostly be a matter of swapping in the new stats.
"I am certain, however, that nothing has done so much to destroy the juridical safeguards of individual freedom as the striving after this mirage of social justice."― Friedrich Hayek
Another former RPGnet member permanently banned for calling out the staff there on their abdication of their responsibilities as moderators and admins and their abject surrender to the whims of the shrillest and most self-righteous members of the community.

Grognard GM

Quote from: yosemitemike on December 26, 2023, 01:58:53 AM
Quote from: Grognard GM on December 25, 2023, 11:06:34 PM
My bucket list is to find a GM that loves classic Who, and only classic Who, where I can play a Time Lord, with a player or two as Companions. If I ever find this unicorn, I shall chain them in my basement, and make them run adventures.

I thought I could maybe go into the old FASA adventures myself, and update the stats (to save a theoretical GM the hassle) but even when trying to be very careful, I found myself seeing spoilers, so scratch that idea.

So now my basement unicorn has to also be cool updating old modules. That should drop my pool of potential candidates on Earth from 3 to 0.

I couldn't find a single player for classic Doctor Who.  I don't own any of the FASA stuff but I have pretty much everything for the Cubicle 7 version from a Humble Bundle.  There's plenty of material for classic Who in the sourcebooks.  I don't own any of those old adventures but I don't think it would be that hard to redo them for the newer version.  If they use classic enemies, it would mostly be a matter of swapping in the new stats.



A helpful fellow did a fairly simple conversion guide:
https://paratime.ca/who/pdf/FASA_to_DWAITAS_Conversion.pdf

I had a flick through the sourcebooks for the first 7 Doctors, and there certainly is plenty of material for a GM. They're very nicely put together books.
I'm a middle aged guy with a lot of free time, looking for similar, to form a group for regular gaming. You should be chill, non-woke, and have time on your hands.

See below:

https://www.therpgsite.com/news-and-adverts/looking-to-form-a-group-of-people-with-lots-of-spare-time-for-regular-games/