One issue is that the majority of the largish companies, regardless of market, are. They all "need a social media presence", and that means tapping into the "current thing" in order to connect with their target audience, and the majority of the target audiences are just nodding along to whatever the current narrative is. It's mostly some sort of bizarre ritual, mostly spread on social media and propagates from these into the traditional media if you fuck up. If you slip up and happen to be noticed by the extremely vocal minority of professional wokesters, you might end up in deep trouble, and for most companies of decent size this engages panic mode, something they are very bad at handling.

Woke is part of most companies business models, in varying degrees. Some companies have truly been infiltrated by those professionals mentioned above, and they tend to set the tone for the less infected competitors in the same market segment. WotC are most likely one of these "trend setters" for the TTRPG market.

Best way put of it is supporting companies that actively work against this BS. And they are mostly very small, and hard to find.

Quote from: daft on December 21, 2023, 01:42:17 PM
One issue is that the majority of the largish companies, regardless of market, are. They all "need a social media presence", and that means tapping into the "current thing" in order to connect with their target audience, and the majority of the target audiences are just nodding along to whatever the current narrative is. It's mostly some sort of bizarre ritual, mostly spread on social media and propagates from these into the traditional media if you fuck up. If you slip up and happen to be noticed by the extremely vocal minority of professional wokesters, you might end up in deep trouble, and for most companies of decent size this engages panic mode, something they are very bad at handling.

Woke is part of most companies business models, in varying degrees. Some companies have truly been infiltrated by those professionals mentioned above, and they tend to set the tone for the less infected competitors in the same market segment. WotC are most likely one of these "trend setters" for the TTRPG market.

Best way put of it is supporting companies that actively work against this BS. And they are mostly very small, and hard to find.

Agreed.

As pertains to smaller companies that fight woke, more should be done to promote them and increase their exposure to players.

Well, I'm a queer POC, so whatever hope you have of converting me to your viewpoint, I would give that up. You say woke, I say tolerable, because it's not overwhelmed by unreflective white male majoritarians.

Quote from: pawsplay on December 22, 2023, 06:57:50 PM
Well, I'm a queer POC, so whatever hope you have of converting me to your viewpoint, I would give that up. You say woke, I say tolerable, because it's not overwhelmed by unreflective white male majoritarians.

So spoke the racist and sexist woketard, but I repeat myself since woke is synonym with racism and sexism.

Quote from: pawsplay on December 22, 2023, 06:57:50 PM
Well, I'm a queer POC, so whatever hope you have of converting me to your viewpoint, I would give that up. You say woke, I say tolerable, because it's not overwhelmed by unreflective white male majoritarians.

So the solution seems to be exclusion. What would be your suggested alternative?

Quote from: pawsplay on December 22, 2023, 06:57:50 PM
Well, I'm a queer POC, so whatever hope you have of converting me to your viewpoint, I would give that up. You say woke, I say tolerable, because it's not overwhelmed by unreflective white male majoritarians.

... white... male... "majoritarians".

It seems you are using immutable qualities to pass judgement on someone as if to suggest that these things are automatically negative.

Not sure if that was your intent.

Quote from: pawsplay on December 22, 2023, 06:57:50 PM
Well, I'm a queer POC, so whatever hope you have of converting me to your viewpoint, I would give that up. You say woke, I say tolerable, because it's not overwhelmed by unreflective white male majoritarians.

1) "I'm a queer POC".  You know, no one cares, right?  I only care if someone is a person of character.  I doubt that other people here go around judging people by demographics and sexual preferences, because people are individuals.  But the second part of what you are saying shows that you make judgements against people by race and sex alone.   I don't think anyone here is trying to "convert" you; prejudice doesn't go away that easily.

Quote from: pawsplay on December 22, 2023, 06:57:50 PM
Well, I'm a queer POC, so whatever hope you have of converting me to your viewpoint, I would give that up. You say woke, I say tolerable, because it's not overwhelmed by unreflective white male majoritarians.

I'd like you to expound on a couple points this is a bit to unpack, I confuse the use of woke is a bit overused but I think it concisely captures what I'm trying to get at.

But I'm compelled to ask what you consider tolerance? Tolerance in my mind is a virtue (sometimes flaw) of tolerating or ignoring differences between people Often what I've encountered is not that, it is a demand for acknowledgement and explicit approval of a certain life style choice or political view, often to the exclusion of one's own.

You ask for tolerance, but what seems to be desired is utter acceptance or else threat of punishment in some fashion. That seems to be unreflective.

Quote from: pawsplay on December 22, 2023, 06:57:50 PM
Well, I'm a queer POC, so whatever hope you have of converting me to your viewpoint, I would give that up. You say woke, I say tolerable, because it's not overwhelmed by unreflective white male majoritarians.

You throw this around as a weapon.  You constantly bring it up, even when it's not relevant in any way to the subject at hand.  Every single one of your posts is deliberately hostile.  No one hates you because of the color of your skin your sexual issues, we hate you because you're an insufferable prick that goes around picking fights.

You are a perfect example of what we normal people see coming from the woke crowd.

Quote from: BadApple on December 23, 2023, 06:28:27 AM

Quote from: pawsplay on December 22, 2023, 06:57:50 PM
Well, I'm a queer POC, so whatever hope you have of converting me to your viewpoint, I would give that up. You say woke, I say tolerable, because it's not overwhelmed by unreflective white male majoritarians.

You throw this around as a weapon.  You constantly bring it up, even when it's not relevant in any way to the subject at hand.  Every single one of your posts is deliberately hostile.  No one hates you because of the color of your skin your sexual issues, we hate you because you're an insufferable prick that goes around picking fights.

You are a perfect example of what we normal people see coming from the woke crowd.

Pretty much. We see a perpetually offended miserable human being who defines themselves by their preferred sex holes and melanin content of their skin and demands respect and authority for having that preference and more melanin than other people as if those are the most important things in the world.

It's like a more annoying version of "well, I'm a doctor" (because at least the doctor title implies they want some respect for having put some effort in somewhere).

Greetings!

Forget being tolerant. The whole concept of "Tolerance" has been twisted into being a spineless degenerate. It is merely yet another vehicle of brainwashing and conditioning, so that the degenerates and mentally ill scum can wallow in their degeneracy and spread their lifestyles and ideologies throughout the community.

Stay intolerant and strong. Reject all of the weak pussies and feminized weaklings.

Light up a good cigar, and enjoy seeing the degenerates being defeated and crushed.

Semper Fidelis,

SHARK

Quote from: BadApple on December 23, 2023, 06:28:27 AM
You throw this around as a weapon.  You constantly bring it up, even when it's not relevant in any way to the subject at hand.  Every single one of your posts is deliberately hostile. 

No, I just bring it up whenever I feel like it. I don't give a fuck if you're comfortable with it.

Quote from: BadApple on December 23, 2023, 06:28:27 AM

Quote from: pawsplay on December 22, 2023, 06:57:50 PM
Well, I'm a queer POC, so whatever hope you have of converting me to your viewpoint, I would give that up. You say woke, I say tolerable, because it's not overwhelmed by unreflective white male majoritarians.

You throw this around as a weapon.  You constantly bring it up, even when it's not relevant in any way to the subject at hand.  Every single one of your posts is deliberately hostile.  No one hates you because of the color of your skin your sexual issues, we hate you because you're an insufferable prick that goes around picking fights.

You are a perfect example of what we normal people see coming from the woke crowd.

What do you expect?  Normal, mentally healthy don't define themselves by their sexuality or sex.  I don't have to post I'm male or hetero every other post, because no one cares and no one might think I'm "special" because of it.  Which is the main reason for all of these "celebrations" of sex or race.  When you, as a person, have no accomplishments or achievements that make you noteworthy, you need to pick other characteristics to celebrate.

What they don't understand is that everyone else views them as "special" as in education, and not "special" as in important...

Quote from: pawsplay on December 23, 2023, 06:25:50 PM

No, I just bring it up whenever I feel like it. I don't give a fuck if you're comfortable with it.

No, the way you constantly bring it up even when it's irrelevant to the subject at hand makes it obvious that you are trying to use it as a bludgeon,to establish some sort of moral authority or both.  That sort of thing just doesn't carry much weight outside of woke circles.  Not being straight and not being white doesn't give you any morality authority or shield whatever stupid bullshit you are spouting from scrutiny or criticism outside of woke circles.  You can't silence people by calling them homophobes or racists.  No one gives a shit about such obviously self-serving accusations. 

Why is everyone harshing Pawsplay? Dude's been around TTRPG circles for a long time. Decades I think?